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Trump Middle East advisors' dream of war with Iran just inched closer to reality

Martin Jay is a veteran foreign correspondent now based in Beirut who works on a freelance basis for a number of respected British newspapers as well as Deutsche Welle TV. Previously he has worked in Africa and Europe for CNN, Euronews, CNBC, BBC and Reuters. Follow him on Twitter @MartinRJay
Published time: 16 Dec, 2016 15:37
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Has the Iran deal already been breached by Tehran? Even if it has, scrapping this deal brokered by President Obama, is not only foolish but against all that Trump stands for despite his Middle East hawks craving to bomb Iran.

President-elect Trump’s first foreign policy test could be his most polemic and one which Russia will watch carefully.

The American people are confused and bewildered by what Donald Trump is going to do in the Middle East, and should seek solace in that Trump is patently confused himself. Recently we saw a series of extraordinary appointments, which all seem to come from the c School of Oriental Studies in that they all have a shocking contempt for Iran and want the so-called Iran deal scrapped.

Curiously, Trump, who came to power on an isolationist and protectionist ticket, appears to have given Middle East positions to a gaggle of individuals who would probably like to tear up the Iran deal and would bomb Tehran for good measure. Thus crystallizing the unfettered fantasies of Dick Cheney and hurling us back to the 1980s and early 90s when things were a lot simpler.

In those days, the boundaries were not blurred, and Iran and its proxies stayed conveniently on one side of a deep line etched into a geopolitical map in hot spots, like Lebanon, for example.

Consequently, these days Trump is going to give himself a great many migraines studying how he can afford to even throw away the Iran deal and go back to the churlish policy of demonization of this rich country, which had an empire that spanned 40 percent of the world’s population at a time when the British were savages living in caves.

And as if to make matters worse, naturally this ill-conceived plan gets the full backing of the hardliners in Tehran who welcomed Trump’s election victory as they saw it as an opportunity to rejig the relationship with the West, which under Obama, created new working relationships with both Iran and Hezbollah in Lebanon, a state of affairs that still irks many on both sides of the Atlantic.

How long can the Iran deal hold, given the appointments of hawks like James Mattis as US Defense Secretary and the new ambassador to Israel Mike Huckabee – with Michael Flynn as national security adviser – when all three would give their back teeth to start a war with Tehran?
They might not have to wait.

Weapons-grade uranium?
It would appear that Iran’s President, a modern reformist, is struggling to keep the hardliners at bay. On December 13, Reuters reported that Iran had begun "developing systems for nuclear-powered marine vessels" that would "probably require Iran to enrich uranium to a fissile purity above the maximum level set in the nuclear deal."

The deal is looking to be hanging by a thread, due to President Rouhani’s decision to go ahead with plans to use the uranium to power new warships, with some experts warning that Rouhani’s decision this week could be a serious juncture in the tenuously balanced deal collapsing altogether. Much lies in the detail.

The White House attempted to play down the news, saying such work could be carried out within the framework of Iran's commitments.

"The announcement from the Iranians today does not run counter to the international agreement to prevent Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon," White House spokesman Josh Earnest told a news briefing.

Not everybody, however, is so convinced.

“Rouhani’s order breaks the ‘spirit’ of the deal, and pending knowing more details it could be a big deal breaker,” says Ali Ahmad, director of the energy policy and security program in the Middle East at the Issam Fares Institute at the American University of Beirut (AUB).

“Rouhani seemed to have also ordered ‘Study to produce fuel for the atomic propeller in cooperation with scientific and research centers’ which is really on the borderline of breaking the deal as the typical fuel used in such naval systems is highly enriched uranium,” Ahmad told me.

Not only the production of such fuel is prohibited under the JCPOA, warns Ahmad, but also doing R&D, which is what Rouhani seems to suggest.

However, did the US decision to extend the terms of imposing sanctions on Iran push the Iranians over a line? Can Trump realistically scrap the deal, regardless of the entourage of hawks, when the geopolitics of the region are so complicated now with regard to America’s role?

“It is a vote of no trust and the Iranians seemed to have reacted. Both sides are playing on the borderline, but with no clear break as of yet”, adds the AUB academic and energy expert.

Max Blumenthal, award-winning journalist, argued this week in an on-line web TV interview show that scrapping the Iran deal and demonizing the Iranians might not be as simple as Trump’s advisers might think – despite that even Trump himself on a personal level being against such interventionism.

“So far the Iran deal has been pretty successful in accomplishing the goal of nuclear nonproliferation and that fact has to be considered by people who were calling for it to be torn up in 2015,” he said in the interview.

“There’s going to be pressure on the Trump administration from the neocons, and I think the alternative is to empower the more radical elements like the Iranian Republican Guard Council,” says Blumenthal.

It's complicated, Sir, but here are the facts
The problem for Trump’s hawks who want a war with Iran is that they have failed to see how relations with both Russia (which Trump cherishes) and Syria are both a hindrance to any antagonism with Tehran. Of course, there will always be some who fail to see the facts in plain view.


Trump security adviser Flynn faces allegations of sharing secret data, despite being cleared
Michael Flynn, Trump’s national security adviser to be, is keen to “rip up” the Iran deal and remain blithely ignorant of the realities of the forays that the Obama administration made into Iran and its allies, resulting in even US agencies sharing spy satellite data with Hezbollah, as just one example.

Figures like Flynn, argue Blumenthal, see geopolitics in an irrational way, almost a religious sense. “In the defense intelligence agency Flynn used to come in with his own “facts” irrespective of the intelligence provided to him so there’s a strange capacity with these figures, but I don’t see them making a deal to remove Assad,” he adds.

For the time being, Trump will have to decide how the hawks he has employed can accommodate his own “isolationist” policies which Blumenthal and others liken to the Brexit supporters in the UK or Marine Le Pen’s far-right support in France. Less is more when it comes to meddling in the affairs of others’ domestic policies. What he should be more worried about is the Iranian hardliners taking more power and provoking him daily to take the bait and pull America into yet another quagmire of belligerent buffoonery, while thwarting relations with Russia.

It might be that Iran, like a man who is constantly accused of adultery by a paranoid wife, will finally commit the act, as he might as well profit from something he is believed to have done anyway.

What do the Iranians lose by scrapping this agreement which no one believes they will ever keep?

https://www.rt.com/op-edge/370548-trumps-middle-east-advisers-dream/
 
16:50 GMT, Dec 16, 2016

Israel will be ‘destroyed’ if Trump sparks war in Middle East – Iran defense minister
Published time: 12 Dec, 2016 12:56Edited time: 13 Dec, 2016 13:39
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The Iranian defense minister says Donald Trump’s election has led to "unease," and that any war with Iran caused by his administration would "destroy" Israel and smaller Gulf states. It comes amid concern Trump will pull out of the nuclear pact agreed with Tehran last year.
Hossein Dehghan said on Sunday that the possibility that Trump may take a "different path" regarding the nuclear deal arranged between Tehran and six world powers last year has led to "unease, particularly among Persian Gulf countries," the semi-official Mehr news agency reported, as cited by Reuters.

He said that "enemies may want to impose a war on us based on false calculations and only taking into consideration their material capabilities."

If such a war were to occur, it "would mean the destruction of the Zionist regime [Israel]...and will engulf the whole region and could lead to a world war," Dehghan said.

He went on to note that city-states on the southern shore of the Persian Gulf would also be destroyed, "because they lack popular support." That statement was reportedly in reference to Western-allied Gulf states such as the United Arab Emirates, Bahrain, and Qatar.

However, Dehghan admitted it seems unlikely that Trump would take "strong action" against Iran, considering his "character and that he measures the cost of everything in dollars."

Trump said during his campaign that he would tear up the nuclear deal agreed between Iran and six major world powers in 2015, calling it "disastrous" and the "worst deal ever negotiated." He told an American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) conference in May that his “number one priority” was to dismantle the deal.

Trump's attitude toward the deal is a far cry from that of the Obama administration, with Secretary of State John Kerry saying earlier this month that the deal's monitoring provisions allow for the ability to detect any nuclear progress made by Tehran.


As part of the deal, Iran agreed to reduce the number of its centrifuges by two-thirds, cap its uranium enrichment below the level needed for weapons-grade material, reduce its enriched uranium stockpile by 98 percent from around 10,000kg to 300kg for 15 years, and allow international inspections.

This was done in exchange for lifting international sanctions on Iran. However, the US president is allowed to impose new restrictions if Tehran violates the nuclear accord.

Meanwhile, Benjamin Netanyahu, prime minister of Iran's arch-enemy Israel, told CBS' '60 Minutes' that he has "about five thing in his mind" that could undo the deal. He refused to elaborate on any of them during the interview, saying he would like to talk to Trump before speaking to the news program.

Netanyahu did state, however, that a reversal of the deal would mean "many more" options to prevent Iran from manufacturing nuclear weapons.

The Israeli prime minister's statements came just one week after he told a Washington conference on the Middle East that he would speak to Trump about the "bad deal."

For its part, Iran has repeatedly denied developing atomic weapons, claiming its nuclear program is solely for civilian purposes.
 
How long can the Iran deal hold, given the appointments of hawks like James Mattis as US Defense Secretary and the new ambassador to Israel Mike Huckabee – with Michael Flynn as national security adviser – when all three would give their back teeth to start a war with Tehran?
They might not have to wait.

I don't want to say never. but, I don't see any war between Iran and US anytime soon. But, then again, we are dealing with Yanks here. so who knows.
Trump era is going to be interesting to say the least.
 
What makes me laugh is the fact that these Iranians prayed so hard for Trump's victory in election. Of course they got the opportunity to massacre women and children in Aleppo but now it seems that they are going to pay the price by being bombed at home.
 
What makes me laugh is the fact that these Iranians prayed so hard for Trump's victory in election. Of course they got the opportunity to massacre women and children in Aleppo but now it seems that they are going to pay the price by being bombed at home.
Look at my other response on the other thread. I said the exact same thing..Hahahahahah
Great minds and all that. :)
 
Persians are strange bunch, they are full of themselves, motor mouths and while having pathetic military capabilities. I fear for them, as a Pakistani, last thing I want to see is another destabilization on my western flanks, if Afghanistan wasn't enough.
 
a new US president with new wars . whats new here ?
 
Persians are strange bunch, they are full of themselves, motor mouths and while having pathetic military capabilities. I fear for them, as a Pakistani, last thing I want to see is another destabilization on my western flanks, if Afghanistan wasn't enough.
I also fear for my Persian Kitten friends :(
 
Trump will not spare Iran, Iran should stop nuclear program, trump will not give any option. Even Saudi Arabia can join this alliance, while Israel is already ready. He is just waiting for right moment.
 
Trump will not spare Iran, Iran should stop nuclear program, trump will not give any option. Even Saudi Arabia can join this alliance, while Israel is already ready. He is just waiting for right moment.

If the Mullah's had behaved as sane people since 1979, KSA/GCC/much of the Arab world and Iran could have had good ties as neighbors. Maybe even nuclear cooperation!

If the region was united no outsider would have been able to bully any regional country unless if that superpower went all in which would be pointless/not in the interests of that superpower.

If the Shah was in power or someone else, yes there would still be competition (not exactly a negative thing) and rivalry, but nowhere near the current levels and we would have seen much more cooperation on all fronts.

In fact I believe that Iran has a right to pursue nuclear weapons as long as they do not threaten anyone but that right should also be extended to other regional powers/potential regional powers such as KSA, Egypt, Iraq, Turkey etc.

It is not good for anyone living in this region that there is instability/wars all around. We all lose a lot this way. United we fall divided we stand.
 
If the Mullah's had behaved as sane people since 1979, KSA/GCC/much of the Arab world and Iran could have had good ties as neighbors. Maybe even nuclear cooperation!

You and your love of the throne, give it a break. SA is no less guilty than the Iranians.
 
If the Mullah's had behaved as sane people since 1979, KSA/GCC/much of the Arab world and Iran could have had good ties as neighbors. Maybe even nuclear cooperation!

If the region was united no outsider would have been able to bully any regional country unless if that superpower went all in which would be pointless/not in the interests of that superpower.

If the Shah was in power or someone else, yes there would still be competition (not exactly a negative thing) and rivalry, but nowhere near the current levels and we would have seen much more cooperation on all fronts.

In fact I believe that Iran has a right to pursue nuclear weapons as long as they do not threaten anyone but that right should also be extended to other regional powers/potential regional powers such as KSA, Egypt, Iraq, Turkey etc.

It is not good for anyone living in this region that there is instability/wars all around. We all lose a lot this way. United we fall divided we stand.
Actually Iran is controlled by Mullah and they are very emotional, they threatens openly to Saudi Arabia & Israel , and everyday they want to demolish them at any cost. We should stop them getting nuclear weapons otherwise they will not hesitate to nuke Saudi Arabia and Israel even U.S.A.
Even Iran can Nuke us too, their Mullahs are emotional in nature.
 
You and your love of the throne, give it a break. SA is no less guilty than the Iranians.

Where does an Bangladeshi such as you fit into this discussion?

Tiny Bangladesh:





I never see any Arabs or Iranians interfering/commenting on South Asian affairs on PDF. LET alone in real life.

Actually Iran is controlled by Mullah and they are very emotional, they threatens openly to Saudi Arabia & Israel , and everyday they want to demolish them at any cost. We should stop them getting nuclear weapons otherwise they will not hesitate to nuke Saudi Arabia and Israel even U.S.A.
Even Iran can Nuke us too, their Mullahs are emotional in nature.

Mullah's are notorious troublemakers but they are not complete and utter idiots.
 
Actually Iran is controlled by Mullah and they are very emotional, they threatens openly to Saudi Arabia & Israel , and everyday they want to demolish them at any cost. We should stop them getting nuclear weapons otherwise they will not hesitate to nuke Saudi Arabia and Israel even U.S.A.
Even Iran can Nuke us too, their Mullahs are emotional in nature.

You are on propaganda mode against the mullahs in Tehran. They have no intention to nuke anyone but they are guilty of propping up a thug in Syria and therefore responsible for the inhumanity that we see everyday in Aleppo, that is the truth.


Where does an Bangladeshi such as you fit into this discussion?

Tiny Bangladesh:





I never see any Arabs or Iranians interfering/commenting on South Asian affairs on PDF. LET alone in real life.



Mullah's are notorious troublemakers but they are not complete and utter idiots.

What makes you think that this international forum is part of your herem? This is not SA, get it on your thick head.
 

What makes you think that this international forum is part of your herem? This is not SA, get it on your thick head.

I don't care what it is. I am just saying that you should worry about your own issues and your own region. You are a nobody to teach Arabs about anything related to the Arab world. Find something else to obsess about. We cannot repay the interest/obsession/whatever you want to call it.
 
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