Trump disses TPP again!!!

[帅的一匹]

Only JP unhappy cos Trump dislike JP car export too.many to US. I say again: selling seafood,shoes etc to other 10 TPP nations is enough to make VN rich.

11 TPP nations still survive in trade war when millions Cnese loss jobs. Big chaos waiting for CN in 2023 due to Trumps bully

Keep dreaming....

LOL, that's a painful joke.

I guess Japan is now waking up from the decades old vassal status, warming, for example, up to the idea of a more integrated East Asian region. Interestingly, Japan has always been the largest roadblock on a exclusive regionalism (I should point, China also bears some of the guilt, because China also remained cold to the idea of closed regionalism. Used to have too many neoliberal bananas. Now, hopefully, Beijing is learning its lesson bitterly and deeply, too.)

Now, Beijing is learning the value of region more than it appreciated. Japan, as well. Hence, they are also warming up to the idea of the BRI as well as cooperation between ADB and AIIB.

VN has its own strengths and I am sure it will get more and more prosperous without becoming dumping ground for the Western products.



It is good to be pragmatic, my friend.

Trump never like Japan, he hate anyone who takes advantage of USA.

 

[Viva_Viet]

That's funny. Vietnam deaths and damage to independent sovereignty is far greater by France than from Japan yet you pull at the "must apologize rant!" on Japan yet causually speak about working France.

Okay, my faults. thats true, France is even worse to Vnese than JP did (JP didnt kill Vnese, just let us starve while France killed millions ). But France is just too far from VN and impossible to occupy VN again, we also never think that we will help her if Nazi destroy her again if she dont apology

Actually, both JP, France are helping VN to develop our country. Back to the "must apologize rant!", if France dont apology, then JP still can do like SK, right ?? there is no shame on it, it only show that Jpese willing to pay for the crime they did and then they will receive the forgiveness from their friend and friends will help her more in future, thats it.

btw: did u apology for your mistake to your friend ??

 

[TaiShang]

Actually, both JP, France are helping VN to develop our country. Back to the "must apologize rant!", if France dont apology, then JP still can do like SK, right ?? there is no shame on it, it only show that Jpese willing to pay for the crime they did and then they will receive the forgiveness from their friend and friends will help her more in future, thats it.

As long as politically vassalized, do not expect Japan to genuinely apologize. Because this would open up the floodgates of regional integration, which is a terrible prospects for the US.

Perhaps, as you learn technology from Japan, Japan can learn independence from you. Win-win.

 

[Viva_Viet]

As long as politically vassalized, do not expect Japan to genuinely apologize. Because this would open up the floodgates of regional integration, which is a terrible prospects for the US.

Perhaps, as you learn technology from Japan, Japan can learn independence from you. Win-win.

Thats why JP need VN to get rid of US's bully now. U should know that only VN can scare US troop till now while Russia even try hard in Syria, but still can not match to US in normal war

 

[Suika]

Okay, my faults. thats true, France is even worse to Vnese than JP did (JP didnt kill Vnese, just let us starve while France killed millions ). But France is just too far from VN and impossible to occupy VN again, we also never think that we will help her if Nazi destroy her again if she dont apology

Actually, both JP, France are helping VN to develop our country. Back to the "must apologize rant!", if France dont apology, then JP still can do like SK, right ?? there is no shame on it, it only show that Jpese willing to pay for the crime they did and then they will receive the forgiveness from their friend and friends will help her more in future, thats it.

btw: did u apology for your mistake to your friend ??

Japan has sufficiently apologized.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_war_apology_statements_issued_by_Japan

Its a new era new.

Thats why JP need VN to get rid of US's bully now. U should know that only VN can scare US troop till now while Russia even try hard in Syria, but still can not match to US in normal war

The US is a partner. Their two navies go throughout the Indo-Pacific together and go as a force that cannot be beaten. The two countries disagree on trade but agree on security. US forces in Japan are welcomed, not occupying, and both Japanese and US forces regularly train together. When the CPP fanboys here estimate what it will take to overcome US pacific forces, they always ignore the total combination of US and Japanese naval forces.

 

[Viet]

That's funny. Vietnam deaths and damage to independent sovereignty is far greater by France than from Japan yet you pull at the "must apologize rant!" on Japan yet causually speak about working France.

Putting the past aside, today geostrategic view of Vietnam and Japan is almost identical. Luring the United States back to the pact is of very strategic importance. You mentioned many other aspirants I don’t think they are necessary. The bigger the pact the more difficulty will arise among members.

 

[Suika]

Putting the past aside, today geostrategic view of Vietnam and Japan is almost identical. Luring the United States back to the pact is of very strategic importance. You mentioned many other aspirants I don’t think they are necessary. The bigger the pact the more difficulty will arise among members.

Well more members meaning more complexity is a fair point.

Taiwan is small though so would be easy. Japan has a lot of companies in Thailand already so I think they would fill quite easily as well. South Korea also has quite a lot already.in TPP countries such as Vietnam. The UK will have to finish the Brexit process first so if they do join, it'll be about 5 or more years until then. Indonesia is quite large and may be combersome, so it may take them some time until feeling ready as well.

Trump was elected by the support of US workers that lament the loss of manufacturing jobs. So even if Trump is out, there may still be a sizable number people that want the return of manufacturing jobs, the kind of jobs expected to be in the many south east asia countries. They already have competition from automation and robatics. So I'm just a little skeptical about them coming back to TPP. If it does happen, it'll have to be after Trump's term.

 

[Mista]

LOL. South Korea isn't even part of the TPP. Trump plucking facts from the air as usual.

 

[Viet]

Well more members meaning more complexity is a fair point.

Taiwan is small though so would be easy. Japan has a lot of companies in Thailand already so I think they would fill quite easily as well. South Korea also has quite a lot already.in TPP countries such as Vietnam. The UK will have to finish the Brexit process first so if they do join, it'll be about 5 or more years until then. Indonesia is quite large and may be combersome, so it may take them some time until feeling ready as well.

Trump was elected by the support of US workers that lament the loss of manufacturing jobs. So even if Trump is out, there may still be a sizable number people that want the return of manufacturing jobs, the kind of jobs expected to be in the many south east asia countries. They already have competition from automation and robatics. So I'm just a little skeptical about them coming back to TPP. If it does happen, it'll have to be after Trump's term.

It is not wise to have Taiwan in the pact, because the move would provoke Beijing, putting unnecessary political tension in the trade deal. Vietnam currently builds up a car industry, what is the point to have local competitors as Thailand and Indonesia in the pact? I am for UK in the pact, because it will open an interesting game.

The relationship between Vietnam and Japan is probably the best in history.

 

[Suika]

It is not wise to have Taiwan in the pact, because the move would provoke Beijing, putting unnecessary political tension in the trade deal. Vietnam currently builds up a car industry, what is the point to have local competitors as Thailand and Indonesia in the pact? I am for UK in the pact, because it will open an interesting game.

The relationship between Vietnam and Japan is probably the best in history.

Provoking Beijing from time to time cannot be helped. If Taiwan wants in, then its worth it.

Thailand has fairly higher purchasing power so as consumers, they help add to TPP market size and can help tip ASEAN overall tilt to TPP.

 

[TaiShang]

Thats why JP need VN to get rid of US's bully now. U should know that only VN can scare US troop till now while Russia even try hard in Syria, but still can not match to US in normal war

Japan may be at least trying to get more economic options by diversifying their market. That's the reason they have been sending armies of trade representatives to Mainland China. Bilateral trade went over 300 billion USD again after few years of fluctuation. That trade volume is bigger than the entire GDP of many countries in East Asia.

Today, war between great powers is multilateral and falls short of a conventional confrontation. Small regional economies and countries with imperfect sovereignty have to play very carefully. Otherwise, while elephants fight, they get crushed under the feet.

 

[Viet]

Provoking Beijing from time to time cannot be helped. If Taiwan wants in, then its worth it.

Thailand has fairly higher purchasing power so as consumers, they help add to TPP market size and can help tip ASEAN overall tilt to TPP.

Without the backing of the United States, we should´t have Taiwan in the pact. Both Japan/ Vietnam can´t handle the increased politcal/military tension head by head alone with Beiing. Let´s be realistic. We have enough problems today with the Chinese.

TPP would divert money and investment flows in the regions. Vietnam wants to benefit the most. Why should we invite competitor as Thailand into the pact. The Thai could benefit instead.

 

[Viva_Viet]

Japan has sufficiently apologized.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_war_apology_statements_issued_by_Japan

Its a new era new.



The US is a partner. Their two navies go throughout the Indo-Pacific together and go as a force that cannot be beaten. The two countries disagree on trade but agree on security. US forces in Japan are welcomed, not occupying, and both Japanese and US forces regularly train together. When the CPP fanboys here estimate what it will take to overcome US pacific forces, they always ignore the total combination of US and Japanese naval forces.

Thanks, but seem like Vn is not on apology list ??

Just ignore CPP fanboys, we all know how US treat to her "allies", just look at S.VN, when president Diem didnt want US troops to enter VN as US want, then CIA killed him and his family and find another president (Thieu) who allow US troop to enter VN .

Same thing to SK, JP, TW bro. There is no "partner" to US, just boss and maids. US wanna station in Okinawa to mess up the region to sell more weapons and JP PM must obey or CIA will kill him like S.VN president.

US need JP - CN keep fighting each other , so she can keep selling weapons to get rich. thats bussiness, bro.

Well more members meaning more complexity is a fair point.

Taiwan is small though so would be easy. Japan has a lot of companies in Thailand already so I think they would fill quite easily as well. South Korea also has quite a lot already.in TPP countries such as Vietnam. The UK will have to finish the Brexit process first so if they do join, it'll be about 5 or more years until then. Indonesia is quite large and may be combersome, so it may take them some time until feeling ready as well.

Trump was elected by the support of US workers that lament the loss of manufacturing jobs. So even if Trump is out, there may still be a sizable number people that want the return of manufacturing jobs, the kind of jobs expected to be in the many south east asia countries. They already have competition from automation and robatics. So I'm just a little skeptical about them coming back to TPP. If it does happen, it'll have to be after Trump's term.

We dont want Thai to join the group cos Thai-VN sell the same products (Car, seafood, fruits) or we will leave TPP cos no benefit there.

JP PM know that, thast why Thai is not in TPP.

Japan may be at least trying to get more economic options by diversifying their market. That's the reason they have been sending armies of trade representatives to Mainland China. Bilateral trade went over 300 billion USD again after few years of fluctuation. That trade volume is bigger than the entire GDP of many countries in East Asia.

Today, war between great powers is multilateral and falls short of a conventional confrontation. Small regional economies and countries with imperfect sovereignty have to play very carefully. Otherwise, while elephants fight, they get crushed under the feet.

Thats why Trump is unhappy wt JP now, dont know what Trump will do to JP next.

 

[Nike]

Thanks, but seem like Vn is not on apology list ??

Just ignore CPP fanboys, we all know how US treat to her "allies", just look at S.VN, when president Diem didnt want US troops to enter VN as US want, then CIA killed him and his family and find another president (Thieu) who allow US troop to enter VN .

Same thing to SK, JP, TW bro. There is no "partner" to US, just boss and maids. US wanna station in Okinawa to mess up the region to sell more weapons and JP PM must obey or CIA will kill him like S.VN president.

US need JP - CN keep fighting each other , so she can keep selling weapons to get rich. thats bussiness, bro.


We dont want Thai to join the group cos Thai-VN sell the same products (Car, seafood, fruits) or we will leave TPP cos no benefit there.

JP PM know that, thast why Thai is not in TPP.


Thats why Trump is unhappy wt JP now, dont know what Trump will do to JP next.

Vietnam doesn't sell car and motorcycles for export market like Thailand, even for fruits and vegetables they sell different things too.

 

[Viva_Viet]

Vietnam doesn't sell car and motorcycles for export market like Thailand, even for fruits and vegetables they sell different things too.

Vinfast, Thaco are trying to manufacturing car wt 40 % localization to get zero tariff in TPP.

HCMC – Truong Hai Auto Corporation (Thaco) on March 25 inaugurated a Mazda auto assembly factory seen as the biggest in Southeast Asia with a manufacturing capacity of 100,000 units a year, according to news site Vietnam Finance.

The factory, completed after a year of construction, costs VND12 trillion (some US$520 million) and covers 35 hectares of the Chu Lai-Truong Hai Auto Mechanical Industrial Park in Quang Nam Province. In the first phase, the factory is expected to assemble 50,000 cars per year.

Thaco chairman Tran Ba Duong said the corporation has mapped out plans to build new auto manufacturing and assembly factories of Kia and Mazda passenger cars, high-end passenger cars, buses, trucks and automotive accessories to raise the localization rate to 40%. Under ASEAN trade commitments, autos are subject to zero tariffs in regional trade if local content reaches 40%.
http://english.thesaigontimes.vn/58959/Thaco-opens-region’s-biggest-Mazda-auto-factory.html

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