Transfer of S-300 airdefence systems from the Russian Federation to the Islamic Republic on 18 Feb

[damm1t]

Iran has not paid the money, Russia has not delivered the system; What is illogical here?

Russia to send first S-300 air defense system to Iran this week – report — RT News

RT should edit the tithe to " Russia to send first S-300 air defende system to Iran when they give the fvcking money "

 

[AmirPatriot]

LOL what a joke. You guys claim to be 'independent' and 'advanced' enough to build your own air defence system that's better or similar to the S300 but lose it when you haven't received them yet.

Says the guy from a country that can't even make a fucking UAV mission computer.

RT should edit the tithe to " Russia to send first S-300 air defende system to Iran when they give the fvcking money "

You are so naive. These slimy bastards are obviously out for more money. With their history, no one is going to pay them until the goods have been delivered.

Because you have no option
Putin plays with you guys like a cat plays the mouse trapped on the corner...

Forgot how they came begging to us to drop the $4 billion lawsuit? If they take the piss again Iran could put the lawsuit up again and then some. $8 billion should do it.

 

[Salman_Farsi]

Russia's untrustworthy behaviour in the past would warrant that we should get the systems before payment so they cannot screw us over again.

Not a good pretext for blaming Russia.
I don't like the Russian gov't at all, it's not really better than the US; But they had a good pretext to cancel th contract the last time...

 

[AmirPatriot]

Not a good pretext for blaming Russia.
I don't like the Russian gov't at all, it's not really better than the US; But they had a good pretext to cancel th contract the last time...

Not really. The UN sanctions were for offensive weapons only, a defensive system like the S-300 was excluded. They had no legal basis to cancel the contract. They only did it because they got a carrot from the Americans.

That isn't the only time either. In the 1990s Iran was cooperating on building a jet trainer aircraft with Russia. They left the program, and since the trainer was planned to use Russian engines, the program was halted too.

In the mid - 2000s Iran was going to purchase the Il-96 airliner and maybe even domestically produce it. But guess what happened? They buckled under American pressure. Again!

I wouldn't trust Putin as far as I could spit him.

 

[Salman_Farsi]

Not really. The UN sanctions were for offensive weapons only, a defensive system like the S-300 was excluded. They had no legal basis to cancel the contract. They only did it because they got a carrot from the Americans.

That isn't the only time either. In the 1990s Iran was cooperating on building a jet trainer aircraft with Russia. They left the program, and since the trainer was planned to use Russian engines, the program was halted too.

In the mid - 2000s Iran was going to purchase the Il-96 airliner and maybe even domestically produce it. But guess what happened? They buckled under American pressure. Again!

I wouldn't trust Putin as far as I could spit him.

I don't trust Russians neither but what you're saying is unfair. If our contract says that we should pay the money first, you cant blame Russia. If they cancel the deal once again, we'll take the fines.

 

[AmirPatriot]

I don't trust Russians neither but what you're saying is unfair. If our contract says that we should pay the money first, you cant blame Russia. If they cancel the deal once again, we'll take the fines.

How do you know what the contract says? Maybe Iran is completely following the contract and the Russians just want more money?

 

[kollang]

How do you know what the contract says? Maybe Iran is completely following the contract and the Russians just want more money?

Maybe, maybe not.

This news was based on no official statement from the beginning.Iranian members including me made a big deal out of it.

For now we have nothing to blame Russians for.not for this occasion,neither for SU-30's sale.people have to react rationally.two things are for sure,we will receive S-300s.we will sign for SU-30s.thats all.

 

[-SINAN-]

Can your Anka fly yet?

Flying since 2010.

enough to stop the turkish trash of an airforce anyway

NATO member Turkey has quietly decided to buy variants of three different S-300 missile systems from Belarus and Ukraine to test them at the Konya training center with the Electronic Warfare Training Field (EHTS) system built by local firm Havelsan.

"These missile systems are intended to be used for testing and training purposes to simulate threats that may come from countries with ex-Soviet systems in their inventories," a local defense industry source told Today's Zaman. The decision to buy former Soviet-designated SA-12 (300V version) and SA-10 (S-300) missile systems, as well as SA-15 short and medium-range TOR systems, at a cost of around $100 million, was made during an executive committee meeting of the Undersecretariat for the Defense Industry (SSM) on July 22, but it was not made public. Sources close to the project said the systems will be tested mainly with F-16s using the EHTS system, which has been moved from Eskişehir to the central Anatolian town of Konya, some 250 kilometers from Ankara, where a regional combat readiness simulation center is located.

Tests with these missile systems will, amongst other things, help Turkey detect whether the Greek Cypriot administration, which has Russian S-300s in its inventory, has been using them.

"The missile systems were not purchased to be launched against perceived enemies and they will not be included in the inventory of the Turkish Armed Forces [TSK]. They will be tested at the Konya range with EHTS systems. Their radars and fire control systems are to be bought separately," a well-informed local defense industry source said.
Turkey to buy S-300 systems for testing

First we blind S300 then hit it with SOMs from out of it's range.

But you are free to believe what your bearded mullahs says to you.

 

[AmirPatriot]

Flying since 2010.

NATO member Turkey has quietly decided to buy variants of three different S-300 missile systems from Belarus and Ukraine to test them at the Konya training center with the Electronic Warfare Training Field (EHTS) system built by local firm Havelsan.

"These missile systems are intended to be used for testing and training purposes to simulate threats that may come from countries with ex-Soviet systems in their inventories," a local defense industry source told Today's Zaman. The decision to buy former Soviet-designated SA-12 (300V version) and SA-10 (S-300) missile systems, as well as SA-15 short and medium-range TOR systems, at a cost of around $100 million, was made during an executive committee meeting of the Undersecretariat for the Defense Industry (SSM) on July 22, but it was not made public. Sources close to the project said the systems will be tested mainly with F-16s using the EHTS system, which has been moved from Eskişehir to the central Anatolian town of Konya, some 250 kilometers from Ankara, where a regional combat readiness simulation center is located.

Tests with these missile systems will, amongst other things, help Turkey detect whether the Greek Cypriot administration, which has Russian S-300s in its inventory, has been using them.

"The missile systems were not purchased to be launched against perceived enemies and they will not be included in the inventory of the Turkish Armed Forces [TSK]. They will be tested at the Konya range with EHTS systems. Their radars and fire control systems are to be bought separately," a well-informed local defense industry source said.
Turkey to buy S-300 systems for testing

First we blind S300 then hit it with SOMs from out of it's range.

But you are free to believe what your bearded mullahs says to you.

You don't know what you are talking about.

The Belarus/Ukrainian S-300PS/Vs are of early and mid-1980s vintage. The PMU2 version Iran is getting (if the damn Russians actually deliver it) is manufactured in the 21st century and has completely new electronics that are in a different league to those 1980s Soviet equipment.

 

[Ceri]

You don't know what you are talking about.

The Belarus/Ukrainian S-300PS/Vs are of early and mid-1980s vintage. The PMU2 version Iran is getting (if the damn Russians actually deliver it) is manufactured in the 21st century and has completely new electronics that are in a different league to those 1980s Soviet equipment.

Seems as though they don't deliver it :/ big date 18 february no sign of it

 

[kollang]

Seems as though they don't deliver it :/ big date 18 february no sign of it

Dont be happy.this was a fake news and Iranian members overreacted to a fake news.we will receive the system as planned.

@Sinan we will get PMU2 or perhaps PMU3(aka S-400).good luck with that.

 

[phantomrush]

Not really. The UN sanctions were for offensive weapons only, a defensive system like the S-300 was excluded. They had no legal basis to cancel the contract. They only did it because they got a carrot from the Americans.

That isn't the only time either. In the 1990s Iran was cooperating on building a jet trainer aircraft with Russia. They left the program, and since the trainer was planned to use Russian engines, the program was halted too.

In the mid - 2000s Iran was going to purchase the Il-96 airliner and maybe even domestically produce it. But guess what happened? They buckled under American pressure. Again!

I wouldn't trust Putin as far as I could spit him.

About IL-96. When a developed version of the Il-96, in the plane were components that were made abroad. Ukraine, Poland, Uzbekistan.
The 90th was a decline in the country. The plant manufacturer PS-90A engines, which stands on the IL-96, entered into a joint venture with Pratt & Whitney. Pratt & Whitney bought the documentation on the engine. Therefore, we could not deliver to Iran. Problems with the chain of production, and problems with the engines, the United States banned the selling Pratt & Whitney engine PS-90A in Iran.
Later, in 2014, the intellectual rights to the PS-90A were bought from Pratt & Whitney. After that, the engine began to put on the Russian military aircraft.
Although the main problem - a violation of the production chain. Therefore, IL-96 did not build. You can see them in all 28 planes made.

we will get PMU2 or perhaps PMU3(aka S-400).good luck with that.

PMU-3 is not a C-400.
The main difference is the ability to install a radar on the C-400. Nebo-M. But that C-300 will not be a C-400.

 

[kollang]

About IL-96. When a developed version of the Il-96, in the plane were components that were made abroad. Ukraine, Poland, Uzbekistan.
The 90th was a decline in the country. The plant manufacturer PS-90A engines, which stands on the IL-96, entered into a joint venture with Pratt & Whitney. Pratt & Whitney bought the documentation on the engine. Therefore, we could not deliver to Iran. Problems with the chain of production, and problems with the engines, the United States banned the selling Pratt & Whitney engine PS-90A in Iran.
Later, in 2014, the intellectual rights to the PS-90A were bought from Pratt & Whitney. After that, the engine began to put on the Russian military aircraft.
Although the main problem - a violation of the production chain. Therefore, IL-96 did not build. You can see them in all 28 planes made.


PMU-3 is not a C-400.
The main difference is the ability to install a radar on the C-400. Nebo-M. But that C-300 will not be a C-400.

Every link I check S-300PMU3 is known as S-400

S-400 Triumf / SA-21 Growler

The Triumf S-400, initially known as the S-300PMU3, is a new generation of air defense and theater anti-missile weapon developed by the Almaz Central Design Bureau as an evolution of the S-300PMU [SA-10] family. Major differences between the PMU-2 and the S-400 include a larger number of targets it can track and improved electronic counter-countermeasures. The Triumf system includes radars capable of detecting low-signature targets.

 

[phantomrush]

Probably because they won't sell iran , Russian thieves you know

Those are the greek s-300s , probably one of the most modern of them all , that's why i compared them with a medieval sultan with his harem and concubines , i bet it takes several hours to unpack these at a designated site and ready them up

Here look it's the concubine and the sultan

You have the wrong picture.
In the first picture the S-300V. This army air defense. It is more expensive S-300PS / PM in a few times. According to the basic characteristics such as detection range, firing range troop modification inferior S-300PM, however, the S-300V is an autonomous, Fast-, mobile, able to work during the use of nuclear weapons. protected by EW system.
In addition, the S-300V can not simply go to a single column of tanks and protect them from the air. That this requires a C-300B.
That Greek C-300PMU

In the second picture you have the C-400 for БАЗ-64022
By the way, China is the same defense system. Also PMU1 / PMU2.
Letter U means the export version.

Every link I check S-300PMU3 is known as S-400

S-400 Triumf / SA-21 Growler

The Triumf S-400, initially known as the S-300PMU3, is a new generation of air defense and theater anti-missile weapon developed by the Almaz Central Design Bureau as an evolution of the S-300PMU [SA-10] family. Major differences between the PMU-2 and the S-400 include a larger number of targets it can track and improved electronic counter-countermeasures. The Triumf system includes radars capable of detecting low-signature targets.

This is not entirely true. Initially, the idea was to continue the modernization of the C-300 in the version of the C-300PM3. However, later, the government issued a decree on the creation of a new complex. Which became C-400.
There are 2 types of C-400. Outwardly they may otlicht wheelbase.

This is the first modification of the S-400 no new missiles, radar. Here it can be called a continuation of the project "S-300PM3". However, in common with the P-300 had only able to use the old rocket.
A full C-400 here.

plus this is

That's the way of viewing land-Russian radar base in Latakia.

 

[phantomrush]

And by the way After all, Russia has delivered to Iran a very powerful radar. Nebo-SVU.
This radar sees planes with ETA = 0.1 square meters at a distance of 150 km.
At the altitude of 100 m - 25 km
At the altitude of 500 m - 60 km
At the altitude of 10000 m - 270 km
At the altitude of 20,000 m - 360 km