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Top US general says Taliban 'living in comfort' in Pakistan

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Nah, it is the natural position for us.
We are the moral supapawer.

arrogant twitches, history is filled with them right before our eyes demise of the current condescending #%$* is making its way into history books.

Do you understand the concept of pre-empting threats from hostile nation by creating buffer zone or groups in between so your enemy doesnot get the chance to hit your rear end through proxy wars ? I mean what do you deduce from below pictures ? Mccaine meeting the Syrian terrorists in Syria for what ? To eat shawarma ?

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Or US Supporting Terrorist Kurdish Group against their fight for ISIS ?

Oh a golden nugget, This I think is a fake picture of Ronald regan meeting the founding fathers of Taliban

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Why do you think Pakistan is trying to assume control over the neighbor ? Just for fun ?


This guy in the background standing behind MCCain is said to the leader of ISIS!

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Strange morally righteous supporting terrorists here, I expect morally corrupt Pakistan was behind them too.
 
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While American generals are getting rich from heroin sales.
They feel at loss, when they there are talks of leaving Afghanistan.
 
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Do you understand the concept of pre-empting threats from hostile nation by creating buffer zone or groups in between so your enemy doesnot get the chance to hit your rear end through proxy wars ? I mean what do you deduce from below pictures ? Mccaine meeting the Syrian terrorists in Syria for what ? To eat shawarma ?

McCain_Syria.jpg


Or US Supporting Terrorist Kurdish Group against their fight for ISIS ?

Oh a golden nugget, This I think is a fake picture of Ronald regan meeting the founding fathers of Taliban

on2s4z6ghrkx.png




Why do you think Pakistan is trying to assume control over the neighbor ? Just for fun ?

Good Job, showing Your support for the murderous dictator, Al-Assad...
A person, who is in power only through the military coup of his father
and when he died, the son took over.
Trying to get a shroud of legality, Al-Assad ran an election which even the Russian
Foreign Minister consider a joke.

The Egyptian revolution inspired Syrians to demand human rights,
and they were met by gunfire by the Syrian Army.
Disgusted by this, many Syrian Army personel defected and some formed the Free Syrian Army,
without any support from outside, they were soon in a desperate situation.

Realizing the complexity of the situation, Obama initially avoided getting involved.
After much begging and pleaing, the US shipped a small number of TOW missiles allowing the SDF, to take out SA tanks.

Meanwhile Al-Qaeda established a presence, and Saudi Arabia and Gulf states started massively support the opposition.
Overtime a token program to train SDF to combat Al-Assad was initiated, which is estimated to have produced approximately a dozen troops.
Due to the volatility of Syria, with maybe a thousand different rebel groups, rebels moved around.
Right now, the US is focusing on fighting ISIS, based on a UNSC resolution requesting
every country to do what they can to crush them.
They are actively supporting the Kurds, which together with the Iraqi Army has proven to be the best partners to defeat ISIS.
Atrocities occur on both sides in the Syrian Civil War, which probably why
the support for rebels from the West is and has been minimal since the beginning.

So you have a picture of a Republican visiting unnamed persons in Syria,
and You claim they are terrorists. Regardless what they are, the US supported
a the rights of the Syrian to choose their destiny.

This is the same with Afghanistan.
The US supported the Afghanis right to defend themselves from the Soviets.
They met with plenty of Afghanis, on all sides of the Civil War.
They did not intervene in this conflict until the Taliban publicly allied themselves
with Al-Qaeda, an organisation dedicated to attack the Americans.

So the pictures are not at all controversial.

The direct intervention by Pakistan to create a puppet regime (which apparently have failed
since the Afghan Talibans are not the puppets of Pakistan) is very different from that.
 
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Good Job, showing Your support for the murderous dictator, Al-Assad...
A person, who is in power only through the military coup of his father
and when he died, the son took over.
Trying to get a shroud of legality, Al-Assad ran an election which even the Russian
Foreign Minister consider a joke.

The Egyptian revolution inspired Syrians to demand human rights,
and they were met by gunfire by the Syrian Army.
Disgusted by this, many Syrian Army personel defected and some formed the Free Syrian Army,
without any support from outside, they were soon in a desperate situation.

Realizing the complexity of the situation, Obama initially avoided getting involved.
After much begging and pleaing, the US shipped a small number of TOW missiles allowing the SDF, to take out SA tanks.

Meanwhile Al-Qaeda established a presence, and Saudi Arabia and Gulf states started massively support the opposition.
Overtime a token program to train SDF to combat Al-Assad was initiated, which is estimated to have produced approximately a dozen troops.
Due to the volatility of Syria, with maybe a thousand different rebel groups, rebels moved around.
Right now, the US is focusing on fighting ISIS, based on a UNSC resolution requesting
every country to do what they can to crush them.
They are actively supporting the Kurds, which together with the Iraqi Army has proven to be the best partners to defeat ISIS.
Atrocities occur on both sides in the Syrian Civil War, which probably why
the support for rebels from the West is and has been minimal since the beginning.

So you have a picture of a Republican visiting unnamed persons in Syria,
and You claim they are terrorists. Regardless what they are, the US supported
a the rights of the Syrian to choose their destiny.

This is the same with Afghanistan.
The US supported the Afghanis right to defend themselves from the Soviets.
They met with plenty of Afghanis, on all sides of the Civil War.
They did not intervene in this conflict until the Taliban publicly allied themselves
with Al-Qaeda, an organisation dedicated to attack the Americans.

So the pictures are not at all controversial.

The direct intervention by Pakistan to create a puppet regime (which apparently have failed
since the Afghan Talibans are not the puppets of Pakistan) is very different from that.


I thought you have an understanding of Pakistani actions because of the historical enmity and hostility we faced from afghanistan. Lets roll back all the way to 1960's. Afghanistan invaded us. 1970's. 1971. Soviets were instrumental in breaking Pakistan in two halves. Soviets roll into afghanistan in 1979 and start supporting rebellions in Balochistan and Tribal belt where nationalist movements were at its peak. Pakistan still licking wound from 1971, decided to confront soviet and not let them get away by dividing Pakistan further and take revenge of their actions 1971 plus the refugee crises. Result achieved. But the 1990 decade came. Millions of refugees still pouring into Pakistan because of civil war. Destabilizing Pakistan social fabric. Just As US military is actively involved in drug war against Mexico and south american regions by directly intervening there no ?

Then the Post 2001 era came, where India and Afghnaistan started instigating proxy war in Pakistan again through Balochistan and Tribal belt.

If America isnt helping us against winning this proxy war, What do you suggest that we should do against those proxies residing, training, launching attacks against us in Pakistan ?
 
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I thought you have an understanding of Pakistani actions because of the historical enmity and hostility we faced from afghanistan. Lets roll back all the way to 1960's. Afghanistan invaded us. 1970's. 1971. Soviets were instrumental in breaking Pakistan in two halves. Soviets roll into afghanistan in 1979 and start supporting rebellions in Balochistan and Tribal belt where nationalist movements were at its peak. Pakistan still licking wound from 1971, decided to confront soviet and not let them get away by dividing Pakistan further and take revenge of their actions 1971 plus the refugee crises. Result achieved. But the 1990 decade came. Millions of refugees still pouring into Pakistan because of civil war. Destabilizing Pakistan social fabric. Just As US military is actively involved in drug war against Mexico and south american regions by directly intervening there no ?

Then the Post 2001 era came, where India and Afghnaistan started instigating proxy war in Pakistan again through Balochistan and Tribal belt.

If America isnt helping us against winning this proxy war, What do you suggest that we should do against those proxies residing, training, launching attacks against us in Pakistan ?

Can’t say I have.
The relations between Afghanistan & Pakistan, before the Soviet intervention,
or maybe 1-2 years before that is a black hole.
Read a lot of history, and favourites are the Napoleonic Era, Romans, Thirty Year War & the Great Nordic War (obviously) as well as the 20th century.

Reading up a little on the Durand line (which I have seen mentioned a number of times) without knowing the background, I came to the conclusion that on the Durand line, the Afghans have a point. To accept the Durand line, you must accept that the British have legal right to negotiate
a border. You can only do that, if you believe the British have a legal right to rule India.
Something, I think most Pakistanis (and Indians for that matter) would not agree on.
You can’t have both.

On the other hand, there was a referendum, where the inhabitants overwhelmingly voted to be a part of Pakistan. Such a vote, in a time of change must be respected.

So while I believe that the Durand agreement cannot be used to determine the border,
the referendum, is enough to make me side in the Pakistan camp on this question.
 
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No, they did not appear out of nowhere. They appeared to come out of nowhere.
In practise, they must have been in training inside Pakistani Madrases for quite some time.
People that are old enough, remember how the Taliban swept over Afghanistan as an invincible force, and we now know this was based on the huge arms cache hidden inside Afghanistan by, guess who?
That's nothing more than your own conspiracy. Seriously, just stop. You're quite literally making things up as you go along.
 
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Only complete bull$hit from this incompetent & fail General, who is dumping trash against Pakistan only to hide his failures
 
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That's nothing more than your own conspiracy. Seriously, just stop. You're quite literally making things up as you go along.

No, I am registering things, as I go along, so I can have a valid opinion,
when people try to distort the truth.
 
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First of all..doesn't USA has sophisticated drones that can hit any target anywhere..thy can even monitor that the person is armed or not???They can bomb the infrastructure??
So with all these capabilities how a group of Talibans allegedly pass through thousands of miles undetected and without any loss???

Now secondly when Talibs are controlling more than 40% area which USA and Afghanistan aren't able to enter..why would they need to live in Pak..won't it be logistical problem for them to carry out attacks???

And lastly...u can read the entire history of US wars..after WW2...US has failed in all of those and always put blame on others for its failed policies...and brainwashing american public and the entire world that we were the angels in the war but some devil came in n disrupted our plans
American victories after WW2:

1. Liberated South Korea from North Korea in 1951.
2. Deposed Manuel Noriega in Panama in 1990.
3. Liberated Kuwait from Iraq in 1991.
4. Intervened in the Kosovo War on the behalf of Kosovo Liberation Army and forced Russian-backed Yugoslav forces to withdraw from Kosovo in 1999.
5. Toppled an Iraqi regime in 21 days in 2003 and deposed Saddam Hussein in 2006.
6. Intervened in Libyan Civil War in 2011 on the behalf of Anti-Qaddafi forces and ensured downfall of Muammar Qaddafi and his support base in Libya.
7. Routed Al-Qaeda Network in Afghanistan (and Pakistan) and deposed Osama Bin Laden in 2011.

Your knowledge of American accomplishments in warfare is rather questionable, my friend.
 
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No, I am registering things, as I go along, so I can have a valid opinion,
when people try to distort the truth.
No, you are literally making things up as you go along, that way you have an answer for everything, no matter how absurd.

No evidence exists for anything you've said.
 
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This blame game is never gonna get old!!
Seems like everyone else knows more about the Past US and PAK relations than the pakistani themselves!

If any country is doing anything about eradicating terror its Pakistan compare how much ground US has held in war on terror and then see how much Pakistan has captured from the Talis! The US and Nato forces has withhold only in Kabul city while taliban lies in Kabuls vacinity!
And about sanctuaries talibans has no sanctuaries or safe heavens in Pakistan and even if US does think else wise why dont US take actions against TTP (pakistan keeps asking them to do so) and asking Pakistan to take action about Haqqanies!!
The truth is US has lost which they cant either admit or say to its general public, so the most easy and convenient way is to blame on Pakistan!!
 
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