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@jigs brother i think there is one bomb hosted time after time by different NATO countries.And whose code is with? USA i guess.

No it is set up where a number of countries host a number of bombs.

"As of 2005 of the 480 U.S. nuclear weapons believed to be deployed in Europe, 180 tactical B61 nuclear bombs fall under the nuclear sharing arrangement. The weapons are stored within a vault in Hardened Aircraft Shelters, using the USAF WS3 Weapon Storage and Security System. The delivery warplanes used are F-16s and Panavia Tornados."

"As of 2009, Belgium, Germany, Italy, the Netherlands and Turkey are still hosting U.S. nuclear weapons as part of NATO's nuclear sharing policy"

Yes the code is with the U.S. and the order for use is with NATO.
 
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for me - top 10 military powers are

1) Turkey

2) Iran

Both of these countries are respected, powerful and agressive. I don' think there is any third Muslim country that i would really think is agressive.

Pakistan apparently looks stronger than all but her leaders are worse than Goats. What is the use of powerful airforce if Americans are raping your soveriengnty every now and then by doing drone attacks and violating International borders? - Be it for good or bad purpose but any soverign country would never allow to violate its boundary or remain slient after continues attacks on its soil.

Sort out this mess otherwise i would not rank Pakistan even in top 20 list
 
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My Ranks:

1.Turkey
Pakistan
2.Indonesia
3.Iran

I'd love to give reasons for the Ranking but i'm to tired.. need to go to bed^^
 
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for me - top 10 military powers are

1) Turkey

2) Iran

Both of these countries are respected, powerful and agressive. I don' think there is any third Muslim country that i would really think is agressive.

Pakistan apparently looks stronger than all but her leaders are worse than Goats. What is the use of powerful airforce if Americans are raping your soveriengnty every now and then by doing drone attacks and violating International borders? - Be it for good or bad purpose but any soverign country would never allow to violate its boundary or remain slient after continues attacks on its soil.

Sort out this mess otherwise i would not rank Pakistan even in top 20 list

Pakistan's government may publicly be condemning the drone attacks but secretly they are supporting it. Think about why they are doing this for a minute.
 
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Pakistan's government may publicly be condemning the drone attacks but secretly they are supporting it. Think about why they are doing this for a minute.

another sign of cowardness?

Whatever the reason behind is, Pakistan should have taken all actions by themselves. I am sure America wouldn't like it if in future Pakistan prepares its own indegineous drones and conduct operations in Washington to wipe the remaining Talibans from America. No soverign country can allow such operations whatsoever.
 
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another sign of cowardness?

Whatever the reason behind is, Pakistan should have taken all actions by themselves. I am sure America wouldn't like it if in future Pakistan prepares its own indegineous drones and conduct operations in Washington to wipe the remaining Talibans from America. No soverign country can allow such operations whatsoever.

U.S. has better intelligence in many cases of Taliban whereabouts in west Pakistan. If Pakistan does all military operations in west Pakistan, the sentiment of most to all west Pakistanis will turn against Pakistan. By publicly condemning the drone attacks but secretly allowing it will accomplish Pakistan's goal of riding itself of these troublesome extremists and keeping the public's support.
 
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well we are going little off-topic i guess

U.S. has better intelligence in many cases of Taliban whereabouts in west Pakistan. If Pakistan does all military operations in west Pakistan, the sentiment of most to all west Pakistanis will turn against Pakistan. By publicly condemning the drone attacks but secretly allowing it will accomplish Pakistan's goal of riding itself of these troublesome extremists and keeping the public's support.

In another words Pak-Forces are incompetent to wipe the talibans out of this country by themselves thus required US help to violate the international boundary and kill the terrorists on behalf of our forces?

That clearly takes Pakistan out of Top 10 list just like what i said before. If they cannot protect their own country what else can they do?

I ain't doubting any capabilities of our armed forces. All i am saying is our leaders being Goats and puppets of Foreign countries have left a negative impact on our forces and i don't find the reason to rank our country among the best armed forces of the world. It is not the weapons who speaks, It is the man who is firing behind the guns.

I would repeat again, these drones attacks should have been conducted by the Pakistan forces only, alone or in collaboration with US may be. But should not have allowed the United States to take an action by themselves. :lazy:

Hopefully My last post here
 
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Zaki we r talkin abt military not political leadership..
Pakistan(nukes,army size etc)
Turkey convential weapons
Egypt
Iran
 
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Zaki we r talkin abt military not political leadership..
Pakistan(nukes,army size etc)
Turkey convential weapons
Egypt
Iran

i know yaar........ i was just talking to myself :P

You see i have a simple logic. A person who has £10 donates £2 pound in charity is better than the person who has £200 pounds and donating nothing is just useless money for others.

You see Iran although being inferior than us in WMDs, Missiles or Air force still has guts to take a stand. Tiurkey too has a power and an agressive foreign policy where we are just too much inclined towards America and other countries. Our soverignty has recently been challenged and we failed to defend it well. You have weapons but does not use it when its a time to defend your country. Its all useless

Thats my own opinion only and thats definitely my last post here before i am attacked from everywhere :thinktank:
 
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Turkey without any doubt is 1st.But i would like to point out Pakistan is not necessarily top ten Muslim army.We will spank anyone who has nefarious designs against Pakistan.Be it a Muslim nation like Afghanistan.Admiral Turkey Army too has history of Coup's.Our Internal Politics are much more fragile then Turkish Politics hence Army plays a role.Personally i think these lists are useless.Re: Zaki you are compare apple to oranges. Its because Iran so called BALLS are dipped in one of the largest oil reserves in the world!! Iran balls would have been pretty useless without natural resources at Iran's disposal.Besides Iran does not have any next door huge enemy like India.What you are saying is Pan-Islamic Vision of Mullahs but Pakistan has to look at it's real enemy (It's India) and not become anti america/anti israel just because we are muslims.Besides NW has been long disowned by Pakistan - If we can't control it ourselves then why give a fudge when someone comes in.You can tell me about Washington when US Army or other forces loose government writ there.These drone attacks eventually help Pakistanis by rooting out alqaeada/taliban scums.Half the credit of my post goes to Xyon who i quoted.
 
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Its because Iran so called BALLS are dipped in one of the largest oil reserves in the world!! Iran balls would have been pretty useless without natural resources at Iran's disposal.Besides Iran does not have any next door huge enemy like India.

Firstly, "dipped BALLS" bit is highly offensive and rude.

Secondly, Iran carved out it's place in history and had it's most notable periods much prior to the discovery of oil, which is quiet recent considering it begun in the 1920s. Iran was Iran before the oil and Iran will be Iran long after the wells have dried up. It is a general underestimation of Iran to think that Iran today would have been an improvised absurdly poor state still residing in the dark ages and unworthy of recognition had it not been for it's oil reserves.

Thirdly, I think you over-estimate Iran's dependence on it's oil reserves as a basis of it's progress, abilities or stances. If anything, without those reserves, Iran would be less relevant to all the issues which are being built around it but still not immune to them. Iran's present foreign policy stance is not because of it's oil resources but rather because the government is very ideologically motivated. Hence, even without oil, their stance would remain completely unchanged if the ideology is still present. Iranians are a fiercely proud people and quiet able to and are more than willing to work or fight for their beliefs. Even without the current government, a secular nationalistic Iranian government would act no different concerning it's stances with or without the oil and perhaps even be more aggressive.

Lastly, as to the unfriendly neighbor bit, Iran has had a well-endowed neighbor next door (Saddam's Iraq) with which it has fought an eight year war and that too whilst being on it's own. Moreover, Iran's western neighbors especially are at odds with Iran in one too many different ways. Iran too faces proxy wars but with a much larger, more resourceful and complicated list of players.

Hope I have expressed my point well enough.
 
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No need to talk more on it because in every defence forum such lists appear once in every 3 months :) and here we speak about the armies of muslim countries. as if there are 50 armies in muslim world... :)
There are just 3 armies. Turkish, persian and Pakistan. thats all. screw the rest genetelmen. Arabs couldnt win even a single ''battle'' in last millenium. which arab army will we take in to consideration?
 
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Does ranking top 10 militaries means statistics only? Do you just want to compare number of tanks, aircrafts, frigates, submarines, underwater or overwater ships, missiles, bombs etc?

I believe a sharp knife is better than the gun without bullet :D

That was my own opnion only, no need to say it pro-mullah or anti-mullah kind of sentiments. I have no concerns with mulla
 
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Does ranking top 10 militaries means statistics only? Do you just want to compare number of tanks, aircrafts, frigates, submarines, underwater or overwater ships, missiles, bombs etc?

I believe a sharp knife is better than the gun without bullet :D

That was my own opnion only, no need to say it pro-mullah or anti-mullah kind of sentiments. I have no concerns with mulla

Exactly and it is also very difficult for a civilian to measure the true capabilities of a military which is also very different than play station games.
 
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