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Yes exactly......he forget about MM Alam....who made world record of air fighting......instead of talking world record he is talking about indian acheivements.
 
What can you expect from an Indian source ?? Will they ever be giving any credit to PAF, no way. So don't worry, let them enjoy their kills.

The Gnat V/S sabers Dog Fight is about PAF kill not Indian Kill.

It was PAF who shot down the GNAT and not otherwise.

GB
 
Yes exactly......he forget about MM Alam....who made world record of air fighting......instead of talking world record he is talking about indian acheivements.

The thread is not about world records. Its about dog fights.

Besides Alam was grounded by PAF in 1971 war as he was a Bengali.

GB
 
The Gnat V/S sabers Dog Fight is about PAF kill not Indian Kill.

It was PAF who shot down the GNAT and not otherwise.

GB

Four IAF Gnats were ordered to scramble at about 2:49 pm on 22 November to take on four Sabres strafing the Indian territory. The Gnats got three Sabres. The IAF formation leader, Flight Lieutenant R. Massey; Flight Lieutenant M. A. Ganapathy and Flying Officer D.Lazarus each got one Sabre. One Sabre crashed into a pond in Chaugacha on the East Pakistani side of the border, while the other two went down over Indian territory. Flt. Lt. Parvez Mehdi Qureshi and Fg Offr Khalil Ahmed, the two PAF pilots who ejected over India were captured and produced before a crowded press conference the next day. The action was splashed in newspaper front pages all over the country and the three pilots who scored hits became national heroes overnight. This encounter set the tone of the air battles that were to follow. News of the incident and the famous gun camera shots were splashed across newspaper headlines the world over and the tiny Gnat acquired a reputation of being the Sabre killed.
 
Four IAF Gnats were ordered to scramble at about 2:49 pm on 22 November to take on four Sabres strafing the Indian territory. The Gnats got three Sabres. The IAF formation leader, Flight Lieutenant R. Massey; Flight Lieutenant M. A. Ganapathy and Flying Officer D.Lazarus each got one Sabre. One Sabre crashed into a pond in Chaugacha on the East Pakistani side of the border, while the other two went down over Indian territory. Flt. Lt. Parvez Mehdi Qureshi and Fg Offr Khalil Ahmed, the two PAF pilots who ejected over India were captured and produced before a crowded press conference the next day. The action was splashed in newspaper front pages all over the country and the three pilots who scored hits became national heroes overnight. This encounter set the tone of the air battles that were to follow. News of the incident and the famous gun camera shots were splashed across newspaper headlines the world over and the tiny Gnat acquired a reputation of being the Sabre killed.

Bhaiyya we are talking about this

On 14 December 1971, Srinagar airfield was attacked by six Pakistan Air Force F-86 jets. Flying Officer Sekhon was on readiness duty at that time. Soon the enemy aircraft attacked the airfield, strafing ground targets. Under heavy fire, he was able to take off in his Gnat and engage the Sabres.

In the ensuing air battle, Sekhon scored a direct hit on one Sabre and set another ablaze. The latter was seen heading away towards Rajauri, trailing smoke.[citation needed] The four remaining Sabres pressed the attack, and after a lengthy dog-fight at tree-top level, Sekhon's aircraft was hit, and he was killed. The remaining Pakistani aircraft returned to Pakistan without pressing the attack.

The bravery, flying skill and determination displayed by Flying Officer Sekhon earned him India's highest wartime medal for gallantry, the Param Vir Chakra. His skill was later praised in an article by Salim Baig Mirza, the pilot who shot him down.

GB
 
Bhaiyya we are talking about this

On 14 December 1971, Srinagar airfield was attacked by six Pakistan Air Force F-86 jets. Flying Officer Sekhon was on readiness duty at that time. Soon the enemy aircraft attacked the airfield, strafing ground targets. Under heavy fire, he was able to take off in his Gnat and engage the Sabres.

In the ensuing air battle, Sekhon scored a direct hit on one Sabre and set another ablaze. The latter was seen heading away towards Rajauri, trailing smoke.[citation needed] The four remaining Sabres pressed the attack, and after a lengthy dog-fight at tree-top level, Sekhon's aircraft was hit, and he was killed. The remaining Pakistani aircraft returned to Pakistan without pressing the attack.

The bravery, flying skill and determination displayed by Flying Officer Sekhon earned him India's highest wartime medal for gallantry, the Param Vir Chakra. His skill was later praised in an article by Salim Baig Mirza, the pilot who shot him down.

GB


Confused! I quoted from the article, am I missing something? Wait let me go through the thread once again!
 
You are right. I made a mistake. Take back my words.

Apologies.

GB

You made another mistake.

In the ensuing air battle, Sekhon scored a direct hit on one Sabre and set another ablaze. The latter was seen heading away towards Rajauri, trailing smoke.[citation needed] The four remaining Sabres pressed the attack, and after a lengthy dog-fight at tree-top level, Sekhon's aircraft was hit, and he was killed. The remaining Pakistani aircraft returned to Pakistan without pressing the attack.

In that incident all six sabres reached home safe and sound. Anyways Sekhon was a brave and a gallant soldier. :)

and yet he was grounded in 1971.

He again rejoined PAF after the war and is a proud Pakistani.

:pakistan:
 
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You made another mistake.
In that incident all six sabres reached home safe and sound. Anyways Sekhon was a brave and a gallant soldier. :)

I never said he shot any Sabre. Did I?
He again rejoined PAF after the war and is a proud Pakistani.

:pakistan:

Didn't wuestioned that either. However fact remains he was grounded in 1971.

GB
 

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