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Paf pilots who flew in 65 should be retired by now.because on 1965 there af was much better they had better pilots now i think so its all the same
We already have got this achievement, a 1:8 fight, which was joined latter to be 2:8. 3 of yours were shot down, and others escaped back.
We also have seen 2:6 and 1:6 (MM Alam).
PAF is one of the best trained Air Force, which 'sells' its trainings to Air foces in Middle east.
We train air forces from other countries too.
Anyways, we must never think our enemy is weak, how ever weak they are.
Paf pilots who flew in 65 should be retired by now.
Probaly what ever country has better SAMS
My top ten list:
1. USA (Airforce)
2. USA (Navy)
3. USA (Marines)
4. USA (Army)
5. USA (National Guard)
6. Israel
7. RAF (UK)
8. France
9. Russia
10. China
My top ten list:
1. USA (Airforce)
2. USA (Navy)
3. USA (Marines)
4. USA (Army)
5. USA (National Guard)
6. Israel
7. RAF (UK)
8. France
9. Russia
10. China
sorry i did not get what you are saying.i was talking about numerical superiority in general IAF vs paf (3:1).
please explain with links.
Vietnam was an unfortunate war for the US, no one doubts that. I wouldn`t get too cocky when dealing with the US Military of today though, you ain`t no Vietcong and the US(not under Obama) won`t shy from using full force with a country the size and strength of China.And yet the top 5 air forces combined got kicked by a tiny no name country called Vietnam, losing 3000 planes and 5000 helicopters. Funny how a no name country called Vietnam using weapons suppied by low ranked #9 and #10 annihilated more planes piloted personally by "elite US pilots" than the USAF has in its inventory today.
That's just Vietnam. Maybe if US attacked some other, lower ranked country, they'd lose not only their air force, they'd lose all Americans, and the Wall Street criminal regime will cease to exist.
You do not know what the hell you are talking about regarding the air war over Viet Nam. When the vast majority of those losses were from air defense, that simply mean the air war as far as air force versus air force goes, there were not much to speak of. But here is what really happened when the North Vietnamese Air Force had to face a genuine fight...And yet the top 5 air forces combined got kicked by a tiny no name country called Vietnam, losing 3000 planes and 5000 helicopters. Funny how a no name country called Vietnam using weapons suppied by low ranked #9 and #10 annihilated more planes piloted personally by "elite US pilots" than the USAF has in its inventory today.
That's just Vietnam. Maybe if US attacked some other, lower ranked country, they'd lose not only their air force, they'd lose all Americans, and the Wall Street criminal regime will cease to exist.
One serious air-air engagement that nearly half of the MIG-21s were shot down. The other half grounded. Looks like China STILL has much to learn.For the North Vietnamese (and their Soviet allies who supplied the MiG-21 aircraft and helped set up the integrated air defense network), the two reverses forced them to husband their assets by grounding the MiGs for several months for retraining and devising of new tactics.
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I think Pakistan Air Force should be in top ten list !