Tommorrow Conflicts, the real conflict.

[lem34]

We have no use for commies. We tolerate them only when we have to. But when challenged in the intellectual realm, they usually lose and have to resort to violence to defend themselves. Violence is the only language communists understand and excels.

Coming from an American thats a bit rich. America seems to be the one that resorts to violence. We have first hand experience of your hearts and minds campaign in Pakistan.

 

[lem34]

Same can be said about the US....
birth rate decreasing
Gov agencies providing services closing
Gov spending more than it can afford
Jobs being outsourced at the expense of Americans
Poverty increasing
Can the US survive another Global depression
Debt in trillions

Add to that 9% unemplyment
add to that 1 in 6 on food stamps.
Printing money that doesnt exist

 

[lem34]

All nations that in some way or the other bow to the US. India is probably the most free, but thats the thing either one thing would have to give ultimately in the US-India relationship too. Either India would have to bow, or US would stop being friendly to India in the long run.

Indian and Russian relationship is about a lot more equality and has stood the test of time. Its purely about interests. The US does not play with interests alone, it has world domination at the back of every thing it does. Which is why the Chinese rise bothers it. Which is why you see a lot more anti-Chinese sentiments from the Americans than you see anti-American ones from the Chinese.

Is india not bowing to america by letting it effect its relationship with iran etc.

 

[lem34]

I have never supported the war in Iraq. And I know many US citizens who never did. Afghanistan is another story.

Unlike North Korea, US has its priorities set right - it takes care of its own citizens, not only the ruling elite while leaving the masses to starve. One needs to be really detached from the world to compare US with NK.

How about its 1 in 10 employed and 1 in 6 on food stamps. How are they looking after their own. Oh and just because we have a half black president in the states doesnt mean that much its window dressing. Blacks still face racism.

 

[below_freezing]

Many ARVN veterans are bitter over their humiliating, absolutely brutal loss to socialism in the past. They were taught in South Vietnam through US propaganda that socialism is an inferior system and that those who believe in socialism are low IQ losers. So it came as the greatest shock to them that people were willing to die for fight and die for such an "inferior" ideology, moreso than the ARVN was willing to fight and die for a military fascist dictatorship. It was the greatest shock that they lost to such an inferior ideology, and are now forced to become permanently uprooted and homeless refugees.

However we should not have any prejudice against them. They only know what their regime has taught them, so we should allow them to voice their views. "I may not agree with what you have said but I will defend to the death your right to say it." How funny that certain hardcore ARVN veterans who espouse the tenents of democracy, do not even practice this!

 

[gambit]

Many ARVN veterans are bitter over their humiliating, absolutely brutal loss to socialism in the past. They were taught in South Vietnam through US propaganda that socialism is an inferior system and that those who believe in socialism are low IQ losers. So it came as the greatest shock to them that people were willing to die for fight and die for such an "inferior" ideology, moreso than the ARVN was willing to fight and die for a military fascist dictatorship. It was the greatest shock that they lost to such an inferior ideology, and are now forced to become permanently uprooted and homeless refugees.

However we should not have any prejudice against them. They only know what their regime has taught them, so we should allow them to voice their views. "I may not agree with what you have said but I will defend to the death your right to say it." How funny that certain hardcore ARVN veterans who espouse the tenents of democracy, do not even practice this!

There goes the racist Chinese thug again...Just cannot resist a gratuitous jab at the ethnic origin of an American.

 

[gambit]

So "communists" is not a "real name", thus calling communists fools is not name calling, ok, i'll give you that.

It's just my grandfather, whom i respect most, is ccp, my father too, and myself a pending applicant, and by calling us fools is not name calling, what is it then? downright insult?

Calling someone a fool is about what they chose to believe, not about making cheap insults. Many intelligent people believe in foolish ideas. Those who realize they were once 'foolish' would rather be considered 'foolish' than stupid or the much more insulting perjorative 'retard'. Take the 'flat Earthers' of today, for example. Despite overwhelming evidences, there are still those who believe in such nonsense. I place communists in the category as the 'flat Earthers' or Biblical literalist who believe that the Earth is a few thousand years old.

 

[gambit]

Coming from an American thats a bit rich. America seems to be the one that resorts to violence. We have first hand experience of your hearts and minds campaign in Pakistan.

After years and even decades of attempting diplomatic persuasions. So coming from a country that harbors al-Qaeda terrorists for who knows how long, yours is a bit rich itself.

 

[Outman]

Many ARVN veterans are bitter over their humiliating, absolutely brutal loss to socialism in the past. They were taught in South Vietnam through US propaganda that socialism is an inferior system and that those who believe in socialism are low IQ losers. So it came as the greatest shock to them that people were willing to die for fight and die for such an "inferior" ideology, moreso than the ARVN was willing to fight and die for a military fascist dictatorship. It was the greatest shock that they lost to such an inferior ideology, and are now forced to become permanently uprooted and homeless refugees.

However we should not have any prejudice against them. They only know what their regime has taught them, so we should allow them to voice their views. "I may not agree with what you have said but I will defend to the death your right to say it." How funny that certain hardcore ARVN veterans who espouse the tenents of democracy, do not even practice this!

this actually explains a lot, i've never met a single caucasion-origin US citizen harboring so much blind hate towards communists, they have won the cold-war of ideology for god's sake, if anything it should be us hating them. it has to be something else.

 

[gambit]

this actually explains a lot, i've never met a single caucasion-origin US citizen harboring so much blind hate towards communists, they have won the cold-war of ideology for god's sake, if anything it should be us hating them. it has to be something else.

You are free to hate us democrats. In fact, I encourage nascent communists to hate us democrats. Am curious...Do you support bringing forth the ethnic origin of any American in any discussion that does not involve said origin?

 

[Outman]

You are free to hate us democrats. In fact, I encourage nascent communists to hate us democrats. Am curious...Do you support bringing forth the ethnic origin of any American in any discussion that does not involve said origin?

I dont hate democrats, I simply dont get democrats, with republicans at least I can put some obvious lables on them, democrats just say the opposite things to get elected then do things the exact same way, except for looking trendier than the southern rednecks as a whole. And I'm not your nascent communist, I'm genetically wired so.

No, ethnic origin is not an issue in all discussions, only in relevant ones. And you tell me if each and every your american democrat just takes any opportunity to deliver insults to people with different beliefs and it has nothing to do with your coming from a communist country and overcompensating.

 

[gambit]

I dont hate democrats, I simply dont get democrats, with republicans at least I can put some obvious lables on them, democrats just say the opposite things to get elected then do things the exact same way, except for looking trendier than the southern rednecks as a whole.

The fact that you bring in 'republicans' tell me you do not understand the proper context of what is a 'democrat'. I am a democrat, not a Democrat. A Republican is a democrat, but not a Democrat. A Democrat is a democrat, but not a Republican. A person can be a democrat but neither a Democrat nor a Republican.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democrat

Democrat may refer to:
A proponent of democracy, rule of the people or rule by many

Get it?

And I'm not your nascent communist, I'm genetically wired so.

How unfortunate...

No, ethnic origin is not an issue in all discussions, only in relevant ones.

But it is to the Chinese boys here, especially when they found out every single fantastic claims they made about Chinese weaponry completely debunked by a non-Occidental American. The Chinese boys here are the Asian version of Stormfront and they are proud of it.

And you tell me if each and every your american democrat just takes any opportunity to deliver insults to people with different beliefs and it has nothing to do with your coming from a communist country and overcompensating.

Again...Calling communists in general 'fools' is not being insulting to any person. That is like calling a capitalist 'greedy'.

 

[Zabaniyah]

Greed is good

 

[Outman]

so i misread a capital D, thanks for the lecture though not really needed.

Cute for calling a honest communist unfortunate, now i see that's your thing, being cute. what about a person who believes in the existence of God, it that unfortunate to you?

Maybe some of the chinese members are a little bit overzealous, and you sir, are much better because?

By now i honestly dont believe you actually cant tell the difference between calling a person a fool and calling him greedy face to face. if that's really the case, i'm sorry for your unawareness of your insensitiveness which will definitely introduce you to social awkwardness. and if it's not, there's no law against online lying anyway.

 

[gambit]

so i misread a capital D, thanks for the lecture though not really needed.

Of course the instruction was needed. The lower case 'democrat' is a test I often use to see if the person criticizing the US and/or democracy has a clue on what he is criticizing. If you did know what the lower case 'democrat' really mean you would not have brought on the 'republicans'.

Cute for calling a honest communist unfortunate, now i see that's your thing, being cute. what about a person who believes in the existence of God, it that unfortunate to you?

Whose God? In any case, God as we know of his attributes is infinitely more palatable than communism as we have seen. It is indeed unfortunate that anyone can call himself a communist in the face of history.

Maybe some of the chinese members are a little bit overzealous, and you sir, are much better because?

I am better because I do not inject race/ethnicity into the subject unless the subject requires it. I am better because when I present challenges, particularly in technical matters, I support my arguments with credible third party sources, something the Chinese boys here have a difficult time understanding hence their often retreat into veiled and blatant racist insults when they found their absurd claims debunked. One fool who has no clue about the semicon manufacturing industry asserted that China's foundry fabs made Chinese semicon industry far superior to the Japanese and South Korean. I deal with wafer maps daily so I had to chuckle at that.

By now i honestly dont believe you actually cant tell the difference between calling a person a fool and calling him greedy face to face. if that's really the case, i'm sorry for your unawareness of your insensitiveness which will definitely introduce you to social awkwardness. and if it's not, there's no law against online lying anyway.

If the person is a fool or greedy or foolishly greedy I have no problems telling him so. But my personality has nothing to do with the fools that are communists.