To Be A Muslim In India This Eid

[Arsalan]

Btw, why are Pakistanis on this forum so concerned about India's internal matters ? 28 people were blown to bits in a terror attack there yesterday. I hardly find anyone here talking about it.

All of this below:

They can be concerned and post as MUCH as they want on it, it is THEIR forum and NOT yours.
You try to repeat some snide remark like that and you will find yourself excused permanently from both Indian and Pakistani matters for a while.

and mainly the fact that we have a separate thread running on that issue as well. This is a public forum and people discuss all sorts of relevant things on relevant threads!!
I can share a link of that thread if that is what you are looking for?

 

[Mugwop]

Firstly, not everyone is calling Modi a mass murderer. Modi was and is not the absolute King or the sole powerholder responsible for everything happening now in India, or that happened back in India. In a country that tight packed with different faiths, often with conflicting ideologies along with a fair sized bunch of morons, sparks are sure to fly. Its unfair to blame an individual for that. It would be akin to branding Pakistan a terrorist country or calling all muslims terrorists. If Modi is individually and directly responsible for the crimes, it would have already been proven beyond doubt. BJP is not an absolute autocratic power in India, they are light years away from it. They've got powerful and strong political rivals, and Indian media is capable of making an ocean out of a drop. Even if some concrete proof arises in the future, you can be sure that he will be punished.

And about the "Champion of Human Rights" part. yes, India is indeed a champion of human rights. Numerous occasions that we stood up for human rights will speak for it. And the "World's biggest democracy". part. Again, we have every right to call ourselves so. We never had a some random guy topple the will of the masses and walk away like that.

I myself and my fellow Indians here like @SrNair are kinda used to articles like these. They and the concerns raised by members like you are not because of the genuine concerns that you have towards Indians muslims, but they are simply a tool to ridicule belittle India.

Not everyone but the muslims in gujarat sure are calling him a mass murderer. Who is to blame then if not him? Everyone knows modi could have stopped it if he wanted to but he didn't on purpose. Yes and modi's rival was so powerful that it took a sadistic mob of hindu supremacists to cut him to pieces while the police did nothing AGAIN.

Dude countries like America and Canada is packed with different faiths and ideologies never seen a massacre there,Never even seen them boasting about human rights and democracy either.

When did I say I was concerned about indian muslims? I simply said these articles need to be rub in the face of those indians who try to act like champions of human rights meaning if the sadistic indians just STFU then you won't see threads like these

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_Rashtriya_Manch

So you dont have to drag RSS here .Rest are not our concern
Now laugh

What a way to fit in

 

[SrNair]

Firstly, not everyone is calling Modi a mass murderer. Modi was and is not the absolute King or the sole powerholder responsible for everything happening now in India, or that happened back in India. In a country that tight packed with different faiths, often with conflicting ideologies along with a fair sized bunch of morons, sparks are sure to fly. Its unfair to blame an individual for that. It would be akin to branding Pakistan a terrorist country or calling all muslims terrorists. If Modi is individually and directly responsible for the crimes, it would have already been proven beyond doubt. BJP is not an absolute autocratic power in India, they are light years away from it. They've got powerful and strong political rivals, and Indian media is capable of making an ocean out of a drop. Even if some concrete proof arises in the future, you can be sure that he will be punished.

And about the "Champion of Human Rights" part. yes, India is indeed a champion of human rights. Numerous occasions that we stood up for human rights will speak for it. And the "World's biggest democracy". part. Again, we have every right to call ourselves so. We never had a some random guy topple the will of the masses and walk away like that.

I myself and my fellow Indians here like @SrNair are kinda used to articles like these. They and the concerns raised by members like you are not because of the genuine concerns that you have towards Indians muslims, but they are simply a tool to ridicule belittle India.

Brother,we know what they call us irrespective of our religion. @Mugwop I hope you cleared all of your doubt.
We elected Mr Narendra Modi and his Govt for good administration,development and security.If he cant deliver that during his rule ,we will find some others.
People of India is the ruler of this nation.Noone can challenge that

Not everyone but the muslims in gujarat sure are calling him a mass murderer. Who is to blame then if not him? Everyone knows modi could have stopped it if he wanted to but he didn't on purpose. Yes and modi's rival was so powerful that it took a sadistic mob of hindu supremacists to cut him to pieces while the police did nothing AGAIN.

Dude countries like America and Canada is packed with different faiths and ideologies never seen a massacre there,Never even seen them boasting about human rights and democracy either.

When did I say I was concerned about indian muslims? I simply said these articles need to be rub in the face of those indians who try to act like champions of human rights meaning if the sadistic indians just STFU then you won't see threads like these


What a way to fit in

Now I have one question.What you knows about a developing nation?
You are a TTA and now you compares India with US and Canada.
Brilliant
What do you know about the 2002 Gujarat?
.It is quite ridiculous ,our friend @acetophenol
already pointed our impressive record in HR and democracy.Still you didnt get that ,right? and trying to teach him about his nation

I dont have to convince you about it.


Cant digest it .I can understand

 

[acetophenol]

Not everyone but the muslims in gujarat sure are calling him a mass murderer. Who is to blame then if not him? Everyone knows modi could have stopped it if he wanted to but he didn't on purpose. Yes and modi's rival was so powerful that it took a sadistic mob of hindu supremacists to cut him to pieces while the police did nothing AGAIN.

Dude countries like America and Canada is packed with different faiths and ideologies never seen a massacre there,Never even seen them boasting about human rights and democracy either.

When did I say I was concerned about indian muslims? I simply said these articles need to be rub in the face of those indians who try to act like champions of human rights meaning if the sadistic indians just STFU then you won't see threads like these


What a way to fit in

How come you are so sure that muslims of Gujarat call Modi a mass murderer? Even if they do,what makes you so convinced that they are right? Close to 10% of Gujarat population are muslims,and considering its population,it would be greater than many countries. As I said earlier,if there is something concrete that points out Modi's role in the killings,that guy or his party wouldn't have stood a chance. Only dirty politicians use such statements to gain some mileage. And also, what happened in Gujarat in 2002 is called a 'riot' and not a massacre,because muslims werent the only victims. Morons of both religions went around slaughtering innocents.

And comparison with US and Canada,well that wont stand. US and Canada,may have a variety of faiths like India,but they are not diverse as India. And their conditions are less challenging too. They got a common language,better economy, education and living conditions and most of all,experience as a free country.

And about the rubbing in the face part,those sitting in glass houses should not throw stones at others.

 

[Vassnti]

And about the rubbing in the face part,those sitting in glass houses should not throw stones at others.

But when has that stoped anyone every country not just Pakistan/India is great at telling the rest of the world how to fix things while ignoring the problems at home, its just sadly human nature.

What do you have against Poland?

Sadly seems beef is becoming India's version of Pakistan's blasphemy laws don't like some one shout looks he's got a beef patty and let the mob do the rest.

 

[Mugwop]

Brother,we know what they call us irrespective of our religion. @Mugwop I hope you cleared all of your doubt.
We elected Mr Narendra Modi and his Govt for good administration,development and security.If he cant deliver that during his rule ,we will find some others.
People of India is the ruler of this nation.Noone can challenge that



Now I have one question.What you knows about a developing nation?
You are a TTA and now you compares India with US and Canada.
Brilliant
What do you know about the 2002 Gujarat?
.It is quite ridiculous ,our friend @acetophenol
already pointed our impressive record in HR and democracy.Still you didnt get that ,right? and trying to teach him about his nation

I dont have to convince you about it.


Cant digest it .I can understand

I used America and Canada to make a point didn't compare.

I know that a train caught fire and muslims were blamed,a mob of hindu supremacists unleashed their anger on people who weren't even responsible. Ehsan jaffri tried to call the police they didn't respond on purpose,He then called modi and he said "You are not dead yet" "I hope they kill you". Jaffri asked the mob to spare women and children but they killed him and didn't spare any of them.

Really impressive a democracy where violence has been perpetuated against muslims since 1946

Btw since when is ace your friend? Weren't spewing hate against muslims in this thread https://defence.pk/threads/defeated...after-fans-pressured-him-not-to.443872/page-8
I'd like to point out this thread had nothing to do with india but you were still posting Anti-muslim bigotry here for no reason.

 

[SrNair]

I used America and Canada to make a point didn't compare.

I know that a train caught fire and muslims were blamed,a mob of hindu supremacists unleashed their anger on people who weren't even responsible. Ehsan jaffri tried to call the police they didn't respond on purpose,He then called modi and he said "You are not dead yet" "I hope they kill you". Jaffri asked the mob to spare women and children but they killed him and didn't spare any of them.

Really impressive a democracy where violence has been perpetuated against muslims since 1946

Btw since when is ace your friend? Weren't spewing hate against muslims in this thread https://defence.pk/threads/defeated...after-fans-pressured-him-not-to.443872/page-8
I'd like to point out this thread had nothing to do with india but you were still posting Anti-muslim bigotry here for no reason.

Do you have anything to back up your claim?
You said a lots about Ehsan Jaffri and Modi conversation.
Where did you get that info?
Does any one tapped CM's phone call?

A lots of folk tales are churned out after 2002.But does any one proved at least one of it?
One Police that talked against Modi is a traitor that cheated two of our distinguished scientists for monetary benefit.


@acetophenol is my brother ,a proud Indian and a proud keralite.

Nope .For you this thread has everything to do with India ,that showcase your blind hatred against India

 

[Mugwop]

How come you are so sure that muslims of Gujarat call Modi a mass murderer? Even if they do,what makes you so convinced that they are right? Close to 10% of Gujarat population are muslims,and considering its population,it would be greater than many countries. As I said earlier,if there is something concrete that points out Modi's role in the killings,that guy or his party wouldn't have stood a chance. Only dirty politicians use such statements to gain some mileage. And also, what happened in Gujarat in 2002 is called a 'riot' and not a massacre,because muslims werent the only victims. Morons of both religions went around slaughtering innocents.

And comparison with US and Canada,well that wont stand. US and Canada,may have a variety of faiths like India,but they are not diverse as India. And their conditions are less challenging too. They got a common language,better economy, education and living conditions and most of all,experience as a free country.

And about the rubbing in the face part,those sitting in glass houses should not throw stones at others.

Riot = violent disturbance of the peace by a crowd
Massacre = indiscriminate and brutal slaughter of many people

For you it might be a riot for me it's a massacre

Well let's look at the facts ehsan jaffri was modi's opponent,modi turns pale and loses it in an interview when asked about gujarat massacre,several countries banned him,modi's too scared to visit gulberg the ghost of dead bodies haunt him.

^ This lady moves to America.

In a real democracy minority's rights must be protected no matter how singular or alienated that minority is from the majority society. America and Canada are true democracies and they never boast about it.

Who's throwing stones us?? We can handle constructive criticism we just can't tolerate hindu supremacists who try to malign Pakistan with propaganda while falsely potraying their country as a utopia.

 

[SrNair]

Riot = violent disturbance of the peace by a crowd
Massacre = indiscriminate and brutal slaughter of many people

For you it might be a riot for me it's a massacre

Well let's look at the facts ehsan jaffri was modi's opponent,modi turns pale and loses it in an interview when asked about gujarat massacre,several countries banned him,modi's too scared to visit gulberg the ghost of dead bodies haunt him.

^ This lady moves to America.

In a real democracy minority's rights must be protected no matter how singular or alienated that minority is from the majority society. America and Canada are true democracies and they never boast about it.

Who's throwing stones us?? We can handle constructive criticism we just can't tolerate hindu supremacists who try to malign Pakistan with propaganda while falsely potraying their country as a utopia.

Oh please dont tell us about the utopian policies of Americans.
What is the representation of native Americans in that nation?
Can you ignore that 200 year history?

 

[haviZsultan]

The Kashmiris were not allowed to practice eid. All communications were down and restricted. There is inherent bias against the Kashmiris which has kept the independence movement alive. Pakistan should support the Kashmiris fully.

 

[Mugwop]

Oh please dont tell us about the utopian policies of Americans.
What is the representation of native Americans in that nation?
Can you ignore that 200 year history?

You didn't get the point I was trying to make man.
US policies have evolved since then and no some of them aren't perfect but that's not what the topic is about.

 

[SrNair]

You didn't get the point I was trying to make man.
US policies have evolved since then and no some of them aren't perfect but that's not what the topic is about.

So you should remember the journey and challenges of India.
Noone is perfect.But India successfully finished these 70 years even if all that challenges and diversity

 

[wiseone2]

Riot = violent disturbance of the peace by a crowd
Massacre = indiscriminate and brutal slaughter of many people

For you it might be a riot for me it's a massacre

In a real democracy minority's rights must be protected no matter how singular or alienated that minority is from the majority society. America and Canada are true democracies and they never boast about it.

Who's throwing stones us?? We can handle constructive criticism we just can't tolerate hindu supremacists who try to malign Pakistan with propaganda while falsely potraying their country as a utopia.

USA and Canada did not get there overnight. it was a journey. At least the writers of the Indian Constitution got their basic theory right. I cannot say that for any Muslim country.

 

[haviZsultan]

Dont worry its all ok @Razia Sultana dosent care she gave some lamb meat to bunch of hindus on Eid

So what that indian muslims are so pathetic that they have to eat goat shaped cake on Eid

You should feel pity for these muslims who openly call themselves Indian and have forgotten their power and uniqueness. They will never be accepted as equals in India and hindutva violence against them will always be fact. Yet unfortunately we Pakistanis blame them for not supporting us when we ourselves never used them as a tool to fight India. Indian Muslims are neither Indian nor are they Pakistani. They are stuck in between.

 

[Mugwop]

USA and Canada did not get there overnight. it was a journey. At least the writers of the Indian Constitution got their basic theory right. I cannot say that for any Muslim country.

Guess what? I am not a muslim so keep your Anti-Muslim bigotry to yourself.