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TLP chief Saad Hussain Rizvi arrested in Lahore, Protests, and related

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Look at this. Hope this idiot is tracked.
Mate this is where the problem is. The state has for seven decades premised a national identity on Islam. The problem is Islam is global religion, diffused across the globe. A Black American in Bronx, New York, USA, a Indian Tamil in Chennai, a Russian Tatar in Kazan, a Uighur in China and 40 Muslim countries are also "Islam". Indeed Al Qaeda, TLP, TTP etc etc are also carriers of that banner. All cry "Allah o Akbar".

This means Pakistani soldiers are even subject to contrasting pressures and loyalties -

  • do they remain loyal to their senior command or COAS Bajwa
  • or a Maulana that breaths, talks, acts Islam?
Meaning do they follow the state of Pakistan and man made [British era] iArmy or Islam? The institution or their maulana? This has infected some soldiers and some have even changed sides in what they think as Islam. This problem first showed up in the army operations against TTP when some soldiers deserted. When the Pakistani state relies on Islam as identity so can others as easily. After all Islam is not property of Pakistan. It existed before Pakistan and will exist after it.

The state and army are aware of this risk. If a head on crash happened it might cause mutiny the ranks. I have met the typical class from which soldiers are recruited. That class is heavily won over by mullahs and the local masjid.
 
Lets start betting, we have 2 options

1. Gov and establishment will start surrender and start negotiations and release him
2. Gov and establishment will deal with extremist elements with iron hands this time around
Government was Shit, Still Shit and will remain Shit forever when it comes to dealing TLP. even they are trying to make alliance in upcoming by election of na 249 and PTI supporters were even supporting this step. If you play with fire the fire will burn you
 
If you play with fire the fire will burn you
Sunshine we began playing with it in 1947. Maulana Maudoodi bitterly opposed Pakistan. Yet after he migrated to Pakistan. Then he played his role in anti Ahmedi riots which were led by exactly the mobs you see today. Maudoodi was rehabiltated by the state and went on to influence Pakistan all the way to the present. Every government over the decades has pandered to these groups. When you declare a Islamic Republic what do you expect? You have officially opened a holiday resort for mullahs. Rest is just natural progression.
 
Arresting someone without warrant or any legitimate reason? Disgusting. Where are human rights brigade now? Oh wait, they are cheering this on just like they cheered when Sisi butchered Muslim Brotherhood's supporters (who won the election legitimately but were overthrown by a coup supported by liberal secularists of society).

TLP protestors are your average working class folks. Emotional beings but they have nothing much to them. They are protesting for Prophet (saw) in their mind. Govt promised them something and is now backtracking.The state deals with these working class, poor folks with "iron fist"....but aurat march organizers calling for gay sex legalization on stage and openly defying Pakistan's constitution and the state "protect their right to protest"....because after all these spoiled rich elitist kids belong to families of political leaders, influence businessmen, bureaucrats, and army

A state that is the enemy of its own people remains what Pakistan is today. Unstable sh*thole subservient to foreign masters. Our elites are beyond disgusting....
 
وہ لنگڑا شیطان ملک کو برباد کر کر کے گالیاں بکتا مر گیا اب اسکی نسل آ گئی ہے ملک کو یرغمال بنا کر تباہ کرنے ۔ مجھے لگتا ہے اس بار ہماری اچھی لتریشن ہونے والی ہے یورپین یونین کے ہاتھوں ۔
 
وہ لنگڑا شیطان ملک کو برباد کر کر کے گالیاں بکتا مر گیا اب اسکی نسل آ گئی ہے ملک کو یرغمال بنا کر تباہ کرنے ۔ مجھے لگتا ہے اس بار ہماری اچھی لتریشن ہونے والی ہے یورپین یونین کے ہاتھوں ۔
Well... being a disabled person myself I think your choice of words could have been better.
 
What does the TLP want?

A look at the demands put forward by the TLP and its negotiations with the government over the last 6 months.

Dawn.com


Protests erupted across major cities in Pakistan on Monday after Tehreek-i-Labbaik Pakistan (TLP) chief Saad Hussain Rizvi was detained by security forces in Lahore as a "pre-emptive measure" ahead of the party's April 20 deadline to the government.

The deadline pertains to the party's demands from last year; in October, a history teacher who had shown blasphemous sketches of Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) in class was decapitated and his assailant shot dead by French police as they tried to arrest him. In the days that followed the beheading, the caricatures were projected onto the facade of a building in one French city and people displayed them at protests around the country.

Following the killing, French President Emmanuel Macron criticised Islamists and vowed not to “give up cartoons” depicting Prophet Muhammad. Prime Imran Khan as well as other leaders of Muslim countries had denounced the French premier's comments while countrywide protests were held calling for boycott of French products.

Here, Dawn.com looks at the demands put forward by the TLP after the publication of the blasphemous caricatures in France and a timeline of its negotiations with the PTI-led government:

Karachi rally against France — Nov 7, 2020

The TLP rally makes its way down Sharea Faisal. — AFP


The TLP rally makes its way down Sharea Faisal. — AFP

TLP stages a big rally on Sharea Faisal in Karachi, demanding cutting of diplomatic ties with Paris and a boycott of French products.

The TLP asks the federal government to take “practical steps” otherwise it would be compelled to take “extreme action”.

The rally is led by then-TLP chief Allama Khadim Hussain Rizvi, who urges the federal government to “declare jihad” against France.


Talks starts ahead of march — Nov 12, 2020

TLP announces the ‘Tahafuz Namoos-i-Risalat’ march from Liaquat Bagh Rawalpindi to Faizabad in Islamabad on November 15.

Talks between the capital administration and TLP leaders start while the party seeks security cover for the protest rally.

A team of administration officers try to convince the TLP leaders and organisers of the rally to call it off due to Covid-19 spreading all over the country, including Islamabad.



Security tightened, arrests made — Nov 14, 2020

A view of Murree Road blocked with containers before TLP activists approach Islamabad. — Mohammad Asim/White Star


A view of Murree Road blocked with containers before TLP activists approach Islamabad. — Mohammad Asim/White Star

Blockades are installed at different entry points of the capital, including Faizabad, with the deployment of police and the paramilitary force to stop the protest rally of TLP from entering the city.

Meanwhile, police and other law enforcement agencies detain 181 leaders and activists of the TLP in different parts of Rawalpindi and send 65 of them to Adiala jail after producing them in courts.

TLP activists, police clash — Nov 15, 2020

Security personnel stand at Murree Road to prevent violence by TLP activists camped at Faizabad. — Mohammad Asim/White Star

Security personnel stand at Murree Road to prevent violence by TLP activists camped at Faizabad. — Mohammad Asim/White Star

Liaquat Bagh presents a scene of a battleground as police and stick-wielding activists of TLP clashed throughout the day.

The protesters, whose number was officially given at about 3,000, manage to reach Faizabad Interchange where they stage a sit-in.

Riot police resort to teargas shelling against the stone-pelting protesters. During the clashes, dozens of police personnel and several TLP activists are injured and shifted to hospitals.
“Heavy teargas shelling also affected residents of the adjoining areas with many complaining of difficulty in breathing,” a resident of a locality near Liaquat Bagh says.


Govt accepts 'all demands' — Nov 16, 2020

Sitting around empty tear-gas shells fired by the police, TLP supporters shout slogans during an anti-France demonstration. — AFP

Sitting around empty tear-gas shells fired by the police, TLP supporters shout slogans during an anti-France demonstration. — AFP

TLP announces that the government accepted all its four demands and releases a copy of the handwritten agreement carrying signatures of Minister for Religious Affairs Pir Noorul Qadri, Interior Minister Ijaz Shah and Islamabad deputy commissioner.

The agreement says the government will take a decision from the Parliament regarding expulsion of the French ambassador within three months, will not appoint its ambassador to France and release all the arrested workers of the TLP. The government will not register any case against the TLP leaders or workers even after it calls off the sit-in.

There is no immediate confirmation from the government of the agreement, but the interior ministry issues a notification regarding immediate release of all those arrested during the past two days from different parts of Punjab.


New leader, fresh warning — Jan 3

Activists and supporters of TLP gather for the funeral prayer of Khadim Hussain Rizvi in Lahore. — AFP


Activists and supporters of TLP gather for the funeral prayer of Khadim Hussain Rizvi in Lahore. — AFP

The party’s new young leader, Hafiz Saad Rizvi, is appointed as his father’s successor shortly after the death of TLP founder Allama Khadim Rizvi on November 19, 2020.

In the first week of the new year, TLP threatens to relaunch its protest if the government does not fulfil its promise of expelling the French ambassador by Feb 17.

“We’re bound to honour the agreement till Feb 17. A war for (protecting) the honour of the Prophet (SAW) has been waged. If someone has some misunderstanding, it must be removed as we pledge that there shall be no delay in taking a decision after February 17,” the newly appointed leader of the TLP says at the chehlum of his father.

“If you have forgotten the promise, see our history [...] You’ve got time until Feb 17 to expel the French ambassador,” Saad warns the government while addressing thousands of the TLP workers attending the chehlum.


TLP's new agreement with govt — Feb 11

TLP calls off its protest after a new agreement is signed between the party leaders and the government in which it is decided that the latter would present the terms of an agreement signed between them last year in the parliament before April 20.

Prime Minister Imran Khan also says that as decided in the renewed agreement, his government would take the matter to parliament before April 20. The prime minster reminds the TLP that it must not forget that no one has done more than him to internationally highlight the issue of blasphemy, not because of the TLP but because it was an article of his faith.

According to the TLP, the government team expressed its inability to “implement” the agreement and wanted the TLP leadership to stop protesting. “The TLP, however, refused to budge and warned the government to act or risk protest,” says party.

After protracted rounds of negotiations, the government team agrees to meet all the demands by April 20.
If the parties involved undertake any activity that is contradictory to the spirit of the agreement before April 20, it shall be considered void, the text of the agreement says.


TLP chief Saad Rizvi detained — April 12

TLP chief Saad Rizvi being taken into custody in Lahore. — Screengrab

TLP chief Saad Rizvi being taken into custody in Lahore. — Screengrab

TLP naib emir Syed Zaheerul Hassan Shah says the government "completely deviated from" the agreement it had reached with the TLP regarding Namoos-i-Risalat.

Shah calls upon TLP leaders and workers to "come out on the roads" in their areas in protest against the government action.

TLP member Khalid Awan tells Dawn that government had "turned back on its promise" to expel the French ambassador by April 20 and took Rizvi into custody.
"We will not step back from our mission because of Saad Rizvi's arrest."
 
If this was Turkey tonight 1,000 of the senior guys would be in jails. Within 24 hours 100 would be dead. Other 900 would be locked up in cells and tortured for next 10 years. Which is why today Turkey is putative power and Pakistan carries the moniker "terrorstan".

Next time liberal blows himself up in crowd lemme know ....
 
Protests turning violent, multiple deaths being reported.
 
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