TLP chief Saad Hussain Rizvi arrested in Lahore, Protests, and related

[maithil]

Wasn't ruling party ready to form tactical alliance with TLP ? Then why arrest the leader suddenly and provoke these people to resort to hooliganism? Govt surely would have predicted this once they arrest leader.. kya game hai ruling party ka ?

 

[Riz]

even extremists are operating like kingdom from father to son . we have only democratic party in country Pakistani establishment .

Pehly palooo, phir pilaoo, phir un sa kutt khao.. Yeh hamari establishment ka formula e zaroorat ha...

 

[hussain0216]

Most boot polshiyas here do not understand that it was the goverments fault first you do a agreement then you break it.And its the right of a citizen to protest even your precious Imran attacked and laid seige to Islamabad and later attacked PTV.PTI staging a protest for there own gain:Figthing against corrruption and mafia.TLP doing a protest:goons and what not.

Government only agreed to discuss the matter in national assembly

Protest is a democratic right but threats to the state of constant fassad, attacks upon the police, blocking our roads, and curtailing the freedom of movement of the people is NOT



You people are mentally fcuking challenged

Honestly you will turn the people against you if you keep up this donkey behaviour

 

[PakAlp]

Who said that? Plus on what basis are TLP goons considered scholars? I shall share with you my experience with TLP. The nearest mosque to my previous house was TLP's so I used to pray there very often. I prefer to tolerate people even if I don't like them but even I have my limits. The Imam of this mosque used to make absurd claims on every single Friday sermon, I can share with you all of those claims if you like. The last time that I attended this mosque was my breaking point. This Imam very clearly stated that: "Those who say that I cross limits when I praise Prophet Muhammad(peace be upon him), they should know that Prophet Muhammad(peace be upon) is just as great as Allah." Statements like these can never be defended. This is shirk, he associated partners with Allah and there is no greater sin in Islam than this. In another TLP mosque very similar statements were made. I refuse to acknowledge these people as Muslims.

TLP does have a right under Pakistani law to protest. The government is responsible for shelling and causing chaos as usual, why did they arrest Saad Rizvi? This is against the law. Government should arrest the corrupt which they won't. Please watch the videos where police is burning vehicles and trying to blame it on the protesters. Old tactics of ruling elite.

Yes I agree TLP at times comes out with hilarious statements, I myself find some of them disgusting and the statement you've mentioned is definitely kufriya, May Allah azzawajal guide the person who made the statement.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Taken from yesterday or this morning,
Dera Ghazi Khan At Ghazi Ghat Bridge, thugs from Tehreek-e-Labaik called a policeman a Jew, tortured him, tore his uniform and took him hostage.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1381820522049179648

In the hope that this might get some of you thinking please consider what you see. A Police officer who has the flag of the Pakistani state on his left arm. When you abuse him you are actually attacking the Pakistani state.

Then I want you think who is doing this? What you see is Islam versus the Pakistani state. This might seem harsh but whether you guys can't accept this is besides the point.

Islam is a faith. Nobody owns it. You don't have any more right to it then those guys or I have to it. You can cry that these guys don't represent Islam. Well news for you. They will call you kaffir like they are calling that officer Yehudi.

The fact is these people are fighting for their faith. They don't believe in the finality being with the Pakistani state. They answer to a higher authority. And consequent to that France has blasphemed. Thus they want a jihad against France. Surely that is 100% right. The fact is France HAS blasphemed. We all know that.

The differance is the faith of these guys is so strong that they want France to be punished. This then puts them in confrontation with the state. To be honest with you these TLP guys are honest. Very honest. I don't agree with them but I admire them for their conviction and honestly. They are not pseudo Muslims because you all know what France did. It makes absolute sense that France should be punished. And that is exactly what these people are doing. One has paid his life for his faith. I may not agree with him but I can't deny his conviction.

It is the state that is being a hyopcrite. It claims itself as "Islamic Republic" and the PM conjures up his Riaysat Medina every second day but what does this Islamic state do about Islam being insulted by France? Nothing. Thus it is the state that talks one thing but does not do the walk.

Now I perfectly understand from realpolitik point of view that the Pakistani state cannot afford to take action against France. Besides anything a action against France would amoun to action against the wider West. Can Pakistan afford to take on the West over this issue? Trust me China and Russia would not join in as they are on the same page as the West over Islam. Find out what Putin did to Chechen Islamic republic and what are Chinese doing to Uighur Muslims.

I am aware also that the Pakistan state cannot become a fcukin contractor for 1.8 billion Muslims spead across the entire globe. It can't even look after or feed it's own people or give them justice so how the hell can it become the global Muslim policeman?

Even if it could afford this would mean Pakistan would be perpetually involved in issues across the entire world because thee are 100s of cases where Muslims are being abused. It would exhaust Pakistan.

Given this reality it is time the state had the guts to say "we are Pakistan government". Our responsibility is only to the citizens [be they Muslim, Sikh, hindu, Christian, Athiest, Ahmedi] and NOT to the global Islam. Time for Pakistan to declare itself as a secular republic.

I know after 70 years of brainwashing this is a no no. But trust me you will continue to have TTPs, TLPs, Lal Masjids. Because when it comes to question of faith the next mullah has every right to speak his mind on what he thinks Islam is and get his mobs on the streets.

Never forget when talking of Islam the first to stand up is the Mullah. Not generals, not prime ministers, not police DIGs, not judges etc. Constitution of Pakistan is a toilet paper compared to the Quran. The state might taut the constitution. But the Mullah holds the Quran first.

Keep that in mind. And if you say they interpret it wrong why not go and say that to the mobs. Watch the reaction.

To underline how pathetic Islamic Republic of Pakistan has become. There are 40 Muslim states. Some of them are military and economic giants like Turkey. What the French did has been heard across the Muslim world. Is Istanbul burning? Is Jeddah burning? Is Abu Dhabi burning? This should tell you something.

And the joke is not one French police officer has hada scratch. Pakistan is burning. Pakistan citizens are dead. Pakistani people are suffering.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Actually, we need TLP type of party with street power (provided they don't work against state+ our armed forces) -- there are times when (not ours) ruling loyal to west elite gets off track, we need such party to bring back the ruling elite to its senses+ the famous, software update.

How would such a ‘software update’ occur?

Beating, kidnapping, extortion, violence, threats etc?

Please clarify the tactics and methods such a ‘party’ would utilize to further its agenda.

 

[Wikki019]

Gen R. Shoib Amjab in a show today said that gov sources has told him that FIR against saad rizvi has been registered from Pir Afzal Qadri and thats why he was arrested. Any confirmation of this news?

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1381917858981089282

Pakistani Sanghi & Bakhts doing their version of forcing Jai Shri Ram chants.

Deapicable and disgusting actions by TLP.

Who said that? Plus on what basis are TLP goons considered scholars? I shall share with you my experience with TLP. The nearest mosque to my previous house was TLP's so I used to pray there very often. I prefer to tolerate people even if I don't like them but even I have my limits. The Imam of this mosque used to make absurd claims on every single Friday sermon, I can share with you all of those claims if you like. The last time that I attended this mosque was my breaking point. This Imam very clearly stated that: "Those who say that I cross limits when I praise Prophet Muhammad(peace be upon him), they should know that Prophet Muhammad(peace be upon) is just as great as Allah." Statements like these can never be defended. This is shirk, he associated partners with Allah and there is no greater sin in Islam than this. In another TLP mosque very similar statements were made. I refuse to acknowledge these people as Muslims.

Please do share their other outrageous claims.

Help expose these extremists for what they are.

 

[313ghazi]

Wasn't ruling party ready to form tactical alliance with TLP ? Then why arrest the leader suddenly and provoke these people to resort to hooliganism? Govt surely would have predicted this once they arrest leader.. kya game hai ruling party ka ?

Unfortunately the opposition taunts of donkey king are sound more and more true by the day.

The PM himself might not have been involved, but his government is coming across as pretty clumsy and incompetent. The only saving grace they have is that they're not rabidly anti Pakistan and corrupt like the opposition.

Pakistani Sanghi & Bakhts doing their version of forcing Jai Shri Ram chants.

Deapicable and disgusting actions by TLP.

Please do share their other outrageous claims.

Help expose these extremists for what they are.

It's exactly that. No difference in mindset at all.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

That'd be interesting to see. When something similar happened with PTM, we had Kharqamar massacre.

Different situation- troops retaliated after being fired upon at a static checkpost surrounded by what appeared to be hostiles.

 

[shah_123]

Sure

But then the actions have to help the people and the state

Not more jalsas blocking streets and causing problems to your own country

I have heard the similar stuff from guess who? Bait ullah Mehsud...

TLP is TTP without weapons and we know how to deal with TTP with or without weapons. Tick-tock tick-tock...

Anyone asking for the implementation of Islamic system+ challenging the corrupt rotten system automatically gets labeled terrorist/traitors, that's the usual stuff from the beneficiaries ---- clock is ticking for the western slaves, look what happened in Iran --- take a look what's happening in Turkey.

leftovers of company sarkar will not rule for long.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Most boot polshiyas here do not understand that it was the goverments fault first you do a agreement then you break it.And its the right of a citizen to protest even your precious Imran attacked and laid seige to Islamabad and later attacked PTV.PTI staging a protest for there own gain:Figthing against corrruption and mafia.TLP doing a protest:goons and what not.

No agreement was broken. The agreement entered after the last protest made no commitment to boycott France, no commitment to end diplomatic relations with France and no commitment to expel the French Ambassador.

The agreement merely referred to having parliament take a decision on whether or not the French Ambassador should be expelled.

Please read the agreement before making claims.

Pehly palooo, phir pilaoo, phir un sa kutt khao.. Yeh hamari establishment ka formula e zaroorat ha...

Establishment had nothing to do with this. It’s a result of our society and successive governments acting weak on the subject of violence in the name of blasphemy.

Many of you on THIS forum get upset and start raging with abuse when some of us call for amending the blasphemy laws or allowing Ahmadis to call themselves Muslim.

So long as people think that violence as a response to blasphemy is justified, this problem will continue and such groups will continue to have street power.

 

[shah_123]

Now is the best time to send in tanks

https://twitter.com/x/status/1381870220831289346

You didn't feel sad when this police was brutally beating a woman in kasur few days ago --- did you feel sad when they shot two young people in the outskirts of Lahore -- probably you don't even know these incidents happened.

 

[maithil]

Unfortunately the opposition taunts of donkey king are sound more and more true by the day.

The PM himself might not have been involved, but his government is coming across as pretty clumsy and incompetent. The only saving grace they have is that they're not rabidly anti Pakistan and corrupt like the opposition.


It's exactly that. No difference in mindset at all.

Yes.. either they are clumsy or, playing highly cynical political game.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

You didn't feel sad when this police was brutally beating a woman in kasur few days ago --- did you feel sad when they shot two young people in the outskirts of Lahore -- probably you don't even know these incidents happened.

Stop hijacking the conversation to hide the crimes of the TLP. No one justifies police excesses, whether in Pakistan or the US. But police brutality is NOT an excuse for the violence and criminal actions of the TLP.