Tipu would have enjoyed status of Shivaji if he was a Hindu: Karnad

[Hindustani78]

The Tipu Sultan memorial in Dindigul.
http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Madurai/tipu/article18590935.ece

A manimandapam meant for Hyder Ali and Tipu Sultan, constructed near Aranmanaikulam at Anguvilas Irakkam here, would be inaugurated by Chief Minister Edappadi K Palaniswami shortly, said Minister for Information and Publicity Kadambur Raju.

Inspecting the manimandapam here on Saturday, he said the late Chief Minister J. Jayalalithaa had announced a manimandapam for Tipu Sultan under 110 Rule in the Assembly and also sanctioned funds to the tune of for ₹1.30 crore for the construction.

Now, the construction was over and manimandapam was ready for inauguration, he said.

While inspecting the Gopal Naickar Manimandapam at Virupatchi near Palani, the Minister said this manimandapam was constructed at a cost of ₹69 lakh to enable the public to know valour of this great warrior during the freedom struggle.

He asked Collector T.G. Vinay to display signboards on both sides of the Palani-Dindigul Highway to enable people to identify the place easily. Additional funds would be sanctioned for improving infrastructure and creating basic amenities for the public in the manimandapam.

 

[wiseone2]

Jnanpith awardee Girish Karnad on Tuesday said 18th century Mysore ruler Tipu Sultan would have enjoyed the same status as of Maratha king Chhatrapathi Shivaji, if he was a Hindu and not a Muslim. (HT File Photo)

Jnanpith awardee Girish Karnad on Tuesday said 18th century Mysore ruler Tipu Sultan would have enjoyed the same status as of Maratha king Chhatrapathi Shivaji, if he was a Hindu and not a Muslim.


In another remark that stoked a controversy, Karnad said it would have been “apt” had the Bengaluru International Airport at Devanahalli near here been named after Tipu Sultan rather than Kempegowda, a feudatory ruler under the erstwhile Vijayanagara Empire which founded Bengaluru in 1537.

The remarks by the noted Kannada playwright and actor came at a state government organised function to mark the birth anniversary of Tipu Sultan held amid tight security at the state Secretariat in the presence of Chief Minister Siddaramaiah.

The statewide celebrations are being boycotted by BJP and protested by several outfits who see the ruler of the erstwhile Mysore kindgom as a “religious bigot” and “anti-Kannadiga.” The protests led to violence at Madikeri in Kodagu district claiming one life.

“I feel that if Tipu Sultan was a Hindu and not Muslim he would have attained the position in Karnataka that Shivaji Maharaj enjoys in Maharashtra,” Karnad said.

Maintaining that Tipu is deprived of such a status owing to his religious persuasion, he said, “Because what has happened is today our scholars and politicians look at one’s religion and caste first....”

“Injustice has happened to Tipu Sultan because of this type of evaluation...” he added.

Taking potshots at those calling Tipu Sultan “anti-Kannada and anti-Hindu”, Karnad said, “Today, when we are celebrating this day as Deepawali and Tipu Sultan day, we can also celebrate it as Bihar day.”

His Bihar day remark was an apparent jibe at BJP, which was routed in the Assembly polls. Karnad has always made known his ideological opposition to BJP.

Expressing similar opinion to that of Karnad while recounting the contributions of Tipu Sultan to the people of his kingdom, Siddaramaiah said “...if he was born as Hindu he would have got similar respect in Karnataka and the entire country, that Shivaji enjoys.”

Tipu would have enjoyed status of Shivaji if he was a Hindu: Karnad | india | Hindustan Times

Shivaji was a Maratha. In Maharastra it helps to be Maratha
Is Tipu Sultan a Kanndiga ?? Who is going to champion cause of an alien ?

 

[Hindustani78]

Shivaji was a Maratha. In Maharastra it helps to be Maratha
Is Tipu Sultan a Kanndiga ?? Who is going to champion cause of an alien ?

Chhatrapati Shivaji Maharaj and Tipu Sultan, (Sultan Fateh Ali Khan Shahab) both were Hindustanis.

 

[wiseone2]

Chhatrapati Shivaji Maharaj and Tipu Sultan, (Sultan Fateh Ali Khan Shahab) both were Hindustanis.

Very few historical figures have national standing - Gandhi, Nehru. Your support needs to be broad and deep.
Even someone like Subhas Chandra Bose is limited to regional or ideological support. Sardar Vallabhai Patel may be a national leader. Do not be offended if someone does not recognize him or his statue.

 

[Zhukov]

No wonder so many Indains hate tipu. What could be expected from These British Raaj Subjects. And these people hate anyone who went against british raaj. Be it Netaji Subash Chandar Bose or Sultan Tipu
Tipu was Anti British Raaj and an ally of Nepolian Boneparts.
While these Boot lickers Nizam and Marathas opposed him and supported the Brits.

 

[Skull and Bones]

No wonder so many Indains hate tipu. What could be expected from These British Raaj Subjects. And these people hate anyone who went against british raaj. Be it Netaji Subash Chandar Bose or Sultan Tipu
Tipu was Anti British Raaj and an ally of Nepolian Boneparts.
While these Boot lickers Nizam and Marathas opposed him and supported the Brits.

Nobody hates Netaji Subhas Chandra Bose in India. Get your facts right before spewing BS.

 

[SarthakGanguly]

The Tipu Sultan memorial in Dindigul.
http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Madurai/tipu/article18590935.ece

A manimandapam meant for Hyder Ali and Tipu Sultan, constructed near Aranmanaikulam at Anguvilas Irakkam here, would be inaugurated by Chief Minister Edappadi K Palaniswami shortly, said Minister for Information and Publicity Kadambur Raju.

Inspecting the manimandapam here on Saturday, he said the late Chief Minister J. Jayalalithaa had announced a manimandapam for Tipu Sultan under 110 Rule in the Assembly and also sanctioned funds to the tune of for ₹1.30 crore for the construction.

Now, the construction was over and manimandapam was ready for inauguration, he said.

While inspecting the Gopal Naickar Manimandapam at Virupatchi near Palani, the Minister said this manimandapam was constructed at a cost of ₹69 lakh to enable the public to know valour of this great warrior during the freedom struggle.

He asked Collector T.G. Vinay to display signboards on both sides of the Palani-Dindigul Highway to enable people to identify the place easily. Additional funds would be sanctioned for improving infrastructure and creating basic amenities for the public in the manimandapam.

Hope the Nairs, other Keralites, Kannadigas come here to worship this local hero.

Tipu Sultan

He was actually an Arab. They kept their roots truly pure for generations. Till the lineage was wiped out.

 

[lastofthepatriots]

Hope the Nairs, other Keralites, Kannadigas come here to worship this local hero.


He was actually an Arab. They kept their roots truly pure for generations. Till the lineage was wiped out.

Sounds like you were molested by a Muslim man. Sounds like you are still being molested by him.

 

[Zhukov]

Nobody hates Netaji Subhas Chandra Bose in India. Get your facts right before spewing BS.

He isnt given any credit for his struggle for the great man he was.
Only British bootlickers are glorified In both India and Pakistan. Not the real freedom fighters who had the courage to challenge the Raaj


and offtopic
"Spewing BS" Nice manners

 

[Skull and Bones]

He isnt given any credit for his struggle for the great man he was.
Only British bootlickers are glorified In both India and Pakistan. Not the real freedom fighters who had the courage to challenge the Raaj


and offtopic
"Spewing BS" Nice manners

The term 'Spewing BS' is apt for the statement because you haven't done enough reading on the topic before commenting on it. I don't know about Pakistan, but legends like Netaji, Bhagat Singh, Rajguru, Sukhdev, Khudiram, Chandrashekhar Azad are still worshiped, and their stories are being told to children even before going to school.

So when you're talking about glorifying british bootlickers, talk for yourself.

 

[wiseone2]

No wonder so many Indains hate tipu. What could be expected from These British Raaj Subjects. And these people hate anyone who went against british raaj. Be it Netaji Subash Chandar Bose or Sultan Tipu
Tipu was Anti British Raaj and an ally of Nepolian Boneparts.
While these Boot lickers Nizam and Marathas opposed him and supported the Brits.

Subhas Chandra Bose is revered in India. It is his luck that Japanese lost the war against British in NE India. Otherwise Japanese would have slaughtered Indians on a scale that would make Subhas Chandra Bose a Quisling.
You have to question his judgement to align with Nazi germany and Imperial Japan

He isnt given any credit for his struggle for the great man he was.
Only British bootlickers are glorified In both India and Pakistan. Not the real freedom fighters who had the courage to challenge the Raaj


and offtopic
"Spewing BS" Nice manners

BTW Punjabi Muslims were one of the over-represented groups in the British Indian Army

 

[Zhukov]

Subhas Chandra Bose is revered in India. It is his luck that Japanese lost the war against British in NE India. Otherwise Japanese would have slaughtered Indians on a scale that would make Subhas Chandra Bose a Quisling.
You have to question his judgement to align with Nazi germany and Imperial Japan



BTW Punjabi Muslims were one of the over-represented groups in the British Indian Army

What does punjabi muslims have to do with this?
And provide source of your claim. At the time of partition Paksitan Army was dominated by Pashtuuns and it remained the trend for long time. Mosst of senior Generals were Pashtuun.
Ayub Khan, Musa Khan, Yahya Khan, Ghulam Hassan Khan, Tikka Khan all Chief of Army Staffs uptill 1977 were pashtuuns. Zia ul Haq was the first Punjabi army chief.
Waiting for your source of Punjabi Muslims dominating british Indian army.
Or are you claiming those Lot of Punjabi Muslims stayed in Indian Army did not joined Paksitan Army after Partition

 

[wiseone2]

What does punjabi muslims have to do with this?
And provide source of your claim. At the time of partition Paksitan Army was dominated by Pashtuuns and it remained the trend for long time. Mosst of senior Generals were Pashtuun.
Ayub Khan, Musa Khan, Yahya Khan, Ghulam Hassan Khan, Tikka Khan all Chief of Army Staffs uptill 1977 were pashtuuns. Zia ul Haq was the first Punjabi army chief.
Waiting for your source of Punjabi Muslims dominating british Indian army.
Or are you claiming those Lot of Punjabi Muslims stayed in Indian Army did not joined Paksitan Army after Partition

This was my exact quote
"BTW Punjabi Muslims were one of the over-represented groups in the British Indian Army"

Punjabi Muslims were over-represented in the British Indian Army compared to their percentage in the population

I can dig up the numbers if you do not believe it

 

[Zhukov]

So when you're talking about glorifying british bootlickers, talk for yourself.

Yea Gandhi Ji, Jawaharlaal Nehru, Wala bhai Patel were all Pakistanis.
Thank Hiro Hito, Massulini and Adolph Hitler for Banging the brits out of there royal highskies and giving us Loyal British Subjects a chance of Freedom

This was my exact quote
"BTW Punjabi Muslims were one of the over-represented groups in the British Indian Army"

Punjabi Muslims were over-represented in the British Indian Army compared to their percentage in the population

I can dig up the numbers if you do not believe it

Yes please give me some factual data it would be an addition to my knowledge.
BTW Pakistani portion of British Indian army were mostly Pashtuuns and Rajputs. Never ever heard or read of this Punjabi muslim dominance here.
Kindly provide the source of this claim.

 

[wiseone2]

Yea Gandhi Ji, Jawaharlaal Nehru, Wala bhai Patel were all Pakistanis.
Thank Hiro Hito, Massulini and Adolph Hitler for Banging the brits out of there royal highskies and giving us Loyal British Subjects a chance of Freedom


Yes please give me some factual data it would be an addition to my knowledge.
BTW Pakistani portion of British Indian army were mostly Pashtuuns and Rajputs. Never ever heard or read of this Punjabi muslim dominance here.
Kindly provide the source of this claim.

It dates back to the war against Sikh empire. British used Bengali/Bihari sepoys to conquer Punjab in 1840s
In the 1857 revolt Punjabis of all religions were loyal to the British. They helped the British crush the revolt by UP/Bihari/Bengalis.

Would a Rajput be considered as a Punjabi Muslim ? I have read the biographies of Pakistani military personnel. I remember reading something of them who were born in Pakistan Punjab but of Rajput caste or ancestry.

I still owe you the numerical data on the ethnic composition of British Indian Army