Three things Pakistan should emulate from other countries

[T-Faz]

I dont think that a point worth emulating

Can you explicate on it?

Well Bangladesh did not ban Facebook and other sites over religious censorship issues.

It's religious minister did not that state when a man like Rushdie gets knighthood, Muslims have to oppose it violently.

It does not unnecessarily get involved in unrelated issues like the Israel-Arab fight and so on.

Pakistan is no position to be the international headline over all matters.

 

[anoop]

What are the top three things we should emulate from each country?

Non-Pakistanis are welcome to post, but please post about other countries. not your own. We don't want soapbox speeches.

I'll start...


India:
- Working democracy despite the same challenges as Pakistan.
- Very good education system.
- Sense of national pride.

@Developereo

i donot think Pakistan pupil has less snse of pride then India . in fact i think they have more sense then Indians after all still for every 2 Indian youth there 4 Pakistani youth joining Pakistan armed forces and now a days indian top braces for armerd forces are struggling to retain the young soldiers in IA.

 

[Dalai Lama]

What are the top three things we should emulate from each country?

India:
- Working democracy despite the same challenges as Pakistan.
- Very good education system.
- Sense of national pride.

I think Pakistani's are very proud of their country, well at least judging by this forum and the few Pakistanis I've met.

 

[The Clarifier]

Disappointed at Pakistan's lack systems.

-Lack of Self-Initiative
-Lack of Self-Confidences
-Lack of Understanding/forward thinking

The first two I'd definitely agree with; the last one, yes, it is a big problem in our country, but that is only because of lack of 'education'. Always seen in very poor countries!

Anyway, all three must be solved

 

[Sinnerman108]

What are the top three things we should emulate from each country?

Non-Pakistanis are welcome to post, but please post about other countries. not your own. We don't want soapbox speeches.

I'll start...

China:
- Ethic of hard work.
- Deference to the greater, communal good.
- Strive for self-reliance.

India:
- Working democracy despite the same challenges as Pakistan.
- Very good education system.
- Sense of national pride.

Iran:
- National pride in the face of international pressure.
- Strive for self-reliance.
- Respect for ancient heritage, including pre-Islamic past.

Turkey:
- Good, balanced relations with Islamic and Western countries.
- Strive for self-reliance.
- Always ready to help a friend.

Qatar:
- Invest revenues wisely for the future.
- Freedom of the press.
- Willingness to change even the most conservative society.

Israel:
- Can-do attitude.
- Cultivate and leverage friends in powerful countries.
- Superb education system.

USA:
- Bill of Rights, and the Constitution in general.
- Checks and balances between the three arms of government (executive, legislative, judiciary).
- No-nonsense, can-do attitude.

Japan:
- Obsession with quality.
- Can match even the US in technological prowess.
- No-nonsense, can-do attitude. Proved to the world that size doesn't matter.

Australia:
- Respect for other cultures.
- Laid-back and relaxed, yet still get things done.
- Pragmatic foreign policy.

Germany:
- Never say die. Got trampled over and over and came back more powerful each time.
- Strong work ethic.
- Pride in nation and culture.

Developereo:

I kind of disagree with your approach here, and I will you my reason.
See what Raptor is saying.

Instead of going around trying to list things to be emulated from other countries,
We need to develop the system and the process which tells us what we need to do and how to keep on track.

Once we develop this system and the accompanying processes then no sky is high enough.

It will be development, tailored to fit us.

 

[rockstarIN]

@Developereo

i donot think Pakistan pupil has less snse of pride then India . in fact i think they have more sense then Indians after all still for every 2 Indian youth there 4 Pakistani youth joining Pakistan armed forces and now a days indian top braces for armerd forces are struggling to retain the young soldiers in IA.

Dude i think he is not mentioning patriotism, he might mean that Indians are Indians first apart from different culture, languages areas etc. But they are more religious than patriotic, more stress to tribism etc...

Correct me if im wrong

 

[India Rising]

i think, a country cannot emulate all the great things .... because the things should be culturally and social fits.. thats why companies emphasize on the organisational fit and job fit.. this is just an example... every country needs to do SWAT analysis of itself to know about the potential and weakness about the country itself....

SWAT analysis is the much better approach to do the analysis.....

for the south asian countries we need to get rid of "chalta hai" and "jugaad" type of attitude is the biggest problem.. just imagine how the western people have responded to the situation when we show our chalta hai attitude...attitude matters the most ...

for india , i would like to add the entrepreneurial freedom, i must say simply awesome...

sorry, if i am offtopic...thanks

 

[darkhand08]

Ther is always room for improvement but u dont necessarily need to replicate other nations merits because in a dynamic society one's nations formula might not necessarily work in others, i mean, we cannot the work ethics that have been passed on to us from our ancestors and change it to Germany's but yes in our own way we can find out our solutions that are feasable in our respective nations context.

 

[Mughal1]

Dear friends,

The best thing a person can do is, love his family and be loyal to it.

Understand tribalism in its proper context and move people towards that .

Understand religion in its proper context and move people towards that

and understand secularism in its proper context and move people towards that.

It is because tribe is bigger than families, religion is bigger than tribes and secularism is bigger than religions. To borrow sadam hussain's phrase tribe is mother of all the families, religion is mother of all the tribes and secularism is mother of all the religions.

Once people educate themselves about these things properly, peace will prevail, progress will start and prosperity will be the result.

In their proper context tribalism, religionism and secularism are one and the same thing. Individuals are part of families and families are part of tribes and tribes are part of belief systems and belief systems are parts of the same world and therefore we are all part of secularism. This is blue print for unity of humanity. The more united we are the more we can accomplish.


All this demands that human society be based on social justice and fair play. All families must deal with their own members justly and fairly. All tribes must deal with their members the same way ie justly and fairly and all religions must deal with their members justly and fairly and likewise secularism must also bind all people of all belief systems on the same common grounds ie social justice and fair play.


I wish I had the right to have my own thread in here to explain things in one place for benefit of all here.

I see a lot of ignorance on part of tribals, religious as well as secular minded people. They are hell bent on looking at these harmonious things as if they are set against each other as enemies. They are not.

This was the pakistan in mind of jinnah and this was the turkey in mind of kamal pasha the father of turkey. Please make effort to read my posts if you really wish to see our world a better place for all of us.

I request modertors here to create a thread for me and name it, PAKISTAN, TRIBALISM, ISLAM & SECULARISM.

I shall then post my writings in there in one place so that people here could benefit from that and spread them as they wish.

regards and all the best

 

[PakiiZeeshan]

We should learn Nationalism from the Turks.. instead of worrying for Ummah, we should put our Country first!

 

[aviator]

You cannot learn or emulate anything from anyone and apply it to all your people, all you can do is to look at your weknesses and get rid of them. You really think you can emulate Germans or Americans in terms of mindset, it has to be through evolution if you guys believe in it.

 

[RajeHind]

We should learn Nationalism from the Turks.. instead of worrying for Ummah, we should put our Country first!

You made a valid point man, I dont know who put that line pakistan is like israel, moreover pakistan has great similarities with turkey, if you have to emulate, than turkey and india(ur no different people) are best when it comes to similarities of culture, tradition and religion.

 

[GUNS-N- ROSES]

What are the top three things we should emulate from each country?

Non-Pakistanis are welcome to post, but please post about other countries. not your own. We don't want soapbox speeches.

I'll start...

China:
- Ethic of hard work.
- Deference to the greater, communal good.
- Strive for self-reliance.

India:
- Working democracy despite the same challenges as Pakistan.
- Very good education system.
- Sense of national pride.

Iran:
- National pride in the face of international pressure.
- Strive for self-reliance.
- Respect for ancient heritage, including pre-Islamic past.

Turkey:
- Good, balanced relations with Islamic and Western countries.
- Strive for self-reliance.
- Always ready to help a friend.

Qatar:
- Invest revenues wisely for the future.
- Freedom of the press.
- Willingness to change even the most conservative society.

Israel:
- Can-do attitude.
- Cultivate and leverage friends in powerful countries.
- Superb education system.

USA:
- Bill of Rights, and the Constitution in general.
- Checks and balances between the three arms of government (executive, legislative, judiciary).
- No-nonsense, can-do attitude.

Japan:
- Obsession with quality.
- Can match even the US in technological prowess.
- No-nonsense, can-do attitude. Proved to the world that size doesn't matter.

Australia:
- Respect for other cultures.
- Laid-back and relaxed, yet still get things done.
- Pragmatic foreign policy.

Germany:
- Never say die. Got trampled over and over and came back more powerful each time.
- Strong work ethic.
- Pride in nation and culture.

very good thread brother. and good analysis. a BIG thanx.

 

[third eye]

Without naming countries, a few things Pak would do well to emulate:

1. Develop , nurture & maintain national institutions.
2. Changes to do away with pre independence social structure.
3. Allow each arm of the Govt to do its primary job.
4. Keep religion where it is meant to be and not at the forefront.
5. Not look for crutches.

 

[Developereo]

Thanks for all the thoughtful comments. I will try to clarify some points.

Some things we already have, like freedom of press, but it's still worthwhile to acknowledge it from other, especially conservative, countries.

By national pride, I mean the sense of 'manifest destiny': the belief that we are meant for greatness and we will get there. Pakistan has been lacking that, especially since the 80s and, in it's absence, it's been more of an aimless meandering fueled mainly by personal ambition rather than a sense of Purpose (capital P).

By hard work, I mean the attitude to go the extra mile and get the job done, no matter what.

While it is understood that we can only work with that we have, i.e. reforming our existing country and culture, we can still learn from others. Human beings are not that different. I reject the notion that south Asians can't be hard working or incorruptible. It won't happen overnight but, if we acknowledge the goal, we can work towards it.