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[Shinigami]

LMAO, Human development indices don't lie. India can "revise" their definition of poverty and play with PPP all they want. But here's something for you.

List of countries by Human Development Index - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

China is at 91. India is at 135. China is over 40 spots ahead of India. So the reality is that India still has more poor than all of Sub-Saharan Africa. In fact, on that list, there are several African countries that are more developed than India. No one is buying your BS. For a country that hasn't mastered indoor plumbing, it's laughable when you talk about your navy's "expertise."

As for 1962, Indian soldiers were perfectly well armed. And China never outnumbered India 25:1. That's an Indian lie to cover your shameful humiliation and no one, iluding yourself, actually believes that. China inflicted casualties at a ratio of 4.5:1 and captured thousands of your cowardly soldiers. In fact, China was gracious enough to polish your army's weapons before returning them to you. It wasn't hard. They'd never been fired and only dropped once.

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Even today, PLA patrols violate your borders with impunity, sometimes staying for as long as 2 weeks at a time. Before you try to convince all of us, unsuccessfully I might add, of India's imaginary military prowess, learn to defend your own borders first.

40 places dont mean much if the difference is not that great

regarding 1962, i get u r a bit slow, so i will repeat it again

read slowly:

indian army of1962 consisted of a few 1000 men armed with sticks and stones against a massive PLA human wave that outnumbered it 25:1 initially and 10:1 towards the end. nobody should face those odds


In the words of a pakistani analyst:


Till 1965 Pakistan Army keeping in view its equipment and training was relatively superior to the Indian Army.India under Nehru was a peaceful country but the Sino-Indian Conflict of 1962 transformed the whole scenario.Thus while Indian Army had by and large registered no major expansion since 1947 after 1962 the Indians embarked on a highly ambitious expansion programme.It was Pakistan’s good luck that in 1965 this process was at a very rudimentary stage, however by 1971 the whole strategic scenario had changed


But, The Indians who had guns and ammo killed a lot of chinese

‘Nobody believed we had killed so many Chinese at Rezang La. Our commander called me crazy and warned that I could be court-martialled’ - Indian Express


like i said earlier, chinese military is hot air

Compared to the Indian Army, which is arguably the world’s most battle hardened military, the PLA is relatively inexperienced, with limited exposure to wars over the last 50 years, save for the one with Vietnam in 1979, from where it retreated in ignominy, besides some border skirmishes with India. Indian Army’ professionalism and mastery of the entire spectrum of conflicts, ranging from decades of counter-insurgency and guerrilla style operations to four wars with Pakistan, including Kargil, in a diversity of terrains and climatic conditions, remains unsurpassed.

China also invaded Vietnam in February 1979, provoked by the latter’s intervention in Cambodia to end Pol Pot’s reign of brutality and genocide. Employing massive “human wave” tactics, backed by artillery support and armoured columns, the PLA advanced some 20 km into its territory. Far from diverting its Cambodia-based army regulars, Vietnam rallied its second rung yet battle-tested border guards and local militias.

2014 Is Not 1962: India Much Better Prepared For Chinese Challenge - Analysis - Eurasia Review

 

[AgentOrange]

40 places dont mean much if the difference is not that great

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regarding 1962, i get u r a bit slow, so i will repeat it again

read slowly:

indian army of1962 consisted of a few 1000 men armed with sticks and stones against a massive PLA human wave that outnumbered it 25:1 initially and 10:1 towards the end. nobody should face those odds


In the words of a pakistani analyst:


Till 1965 Pakistan Army keeping in view its equipment and training was relatively superior to the Indian Army.India under Nehru was a peaceful country but the Sino-Indian Conflict of 1962 transformed the whole scenario.Thus while Indian Army had by and large registered no major expansion since 1947 after 1962 the Indians embarked on a highly ambitious expansion programme.It was Pakistan’s good luck that in 1965 this process was at a very rudimentary stage, however by 1971 the whole strategic scenario had changed


But, The Indians who had guns and ammo killed a lot of chinese

‘Nobody believed we had killed so many Chinese at Rezang La. Our commander called me crazy and warned that I could be court-martialled’ - Indian Express


like i said earlier, chinese military is hot air

Compared to the Indian Army, which is arguably the world’s most battle hardened military, the PLA is relatively inexperienced, with limited exposure to wars over the last 50 years, save for the one with Vietnam in 1979, from where it retreated in ignominy, besides some border skirmishes with India. Indian Army’ professionalism and mastery of the entire spectrum of conflicts, ranging from decades of counter-insurgency and guerrilla style operations to four wars with Pakistan, including Kargil, in a diversity of terrains and climatic conditions, remains unsurpassed.

China also invaded Vietnam in February 1979, provoked by the latter’s intervention in Cambodia to end Pol Pot’s reign of brutality and genocide. Employing massive “human wave” tactics, backed by artillery support and armoured columns, the PLA advanced some 20 km into its territory. Far from diverting its Cambodia-based army regulars, Vietnam rallied its second rung yet battle-tested border guards and local militias.

2014 Is Not 1962: India Much Better Prepared For Chinese Challenge - Analysis - Eurasia Review

40 places is a lot. You know it is when you go outside and see the filth you and your countrymen wallow in. As I said, more poor than all of Sub Saharan Africa combined. Lying about India's rankings in a sad attempt to hide your nation's shame won't actually improve your countrymen's life expectancies and literacy you know.

With regards to 1962, your newspapers can make up BS about inflicting imaginary casualties on the PLA in 1962 but facts don't lie. The PLA inflicted losses on the Indian army at a rate of about 4.5 to 1 and captured thousands of Indian cowards while not having a single one of its own soldiers taken captive.

According to you, the Indian army only had a few thousand men yet the PLA captured nearly 4000 and killed and wounded 4000. And who knows how many tens of thousands more shamefully ran for their lives in a stunning display of Indian "courage."

But how can that be? According to you, India only fielded a few thousand men. If you're a product of India's education system, India will never catch up to China.

But here's another treat for you:

India no match for China: Navy chief

Straight from the chief of the Indian navy:

“In military terms, both conventionally and unconventionally, we can neither have the capability nor the intention to match China force for force…”

He saw ominous signs everywhere while delivering a talk on India’s national security challenges on Monday. “Whether in terms of GDP, defence spending or any other economic, social or development parameter, the gap between the two is just too wide to bridge (and getting wider by the day).”


And that was in 2011. Since then, China has actually increased its lead over India both economically and militarily.

 

[Beast]

40 places dont mean much if the difference is not that great

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regarding 1962, i get u r a bit slow, so i will repeat it again

read slowly:

indian army of1962 consisted of a few 1000 men armed with sticks and stones against a massive PLA human wave that outnumbered it 25:1 initially and 10:1 towards the end. nobody should face those odds


In the words of a pakistani analyst:


Till 1965 Pakistan Army keeping in view its equipment and training was relatively superior to the Indian Army.India under Nehru was a peaceful country but the Sino-Indian Conflict of 1962 transformed the whole scenario.Thus while Indian Army had by and large registered no major expansion since 1947 after 1962 the Indians embarked on a highly ambitious expansion programme.It was Pakistan’s good luck that in 1965 this process was at a very rudimentary stage, however by 1971 the whole strategic scenario had changed


But, The Indians who had guns and ammo killed a lot of chinese

‘Nobody believed we had killed so many Chinese at Rezang La. Our commander called me crazy and warned that I could be court-martialled’ - Indian Express


like i said earlier, chinese military is hot air

Compared to the Indian Army, which is arguably the world’s most battle hardened military, the PLA is relatively inexperienced, with limited exposure to wars over the last 50 years, save for the one with Vietnam in 1979, from where it retreated in ignominy, besides some border skirmishes with India. Indian Army’ professionalism and mastery of the entire spectrum of conflicts, ranging from decades of counter-insurgency and guerrilla style operations to four wars with Pakistan, including Kargil, in a diversity of terrains and climatic conditions, remains unsurpassed.

China also invaded Vietnam in February 1979, provoked by the latter’s intervention in Cambodia to end Pol Pot’s reign of brutality and genocide. Employing massive “human wave” tactics, backed by artillery support and armoured columns, the PLA advanced some 20 km into its territory. Far from diverting its Cambodia-based army regulars, Vietnam rallied its second rung yet battle-tested border guards and local militias.

2014 Is Not 1962: India Much Better Prepared For Chinese Challenge - Analysis - Eurasia Review

Can't believe some delusion Indian use some Steve Emerson style sources to try convince us Chinese human waves with a ratio of 25:1 defeated Indian armed with sticks and stones in 1962?

Only a dumb idiot with too much Indian ego and pride will buy your story.

Let me show you facts and see for yourselves whether Indian really only armed with stick and stones? Those video are real live footage of 1962 sino indian war.

 

[Shinigami]

40 places is a lot. You know it is when you go outside and see the filth you and your countrymen wallow in. As I said, more poor than all of Sub Saharan Africa combined. Lying about India's rankings in a sad attempt to hide your nation's shame won't actually improve your countrymen's life expectancies and literacy you know.

With regards to 1962, your newspapers can make up BS about inflicting imaginary casualties on the PLA in 1962 but facts don't lie. The PLA inflicted losses on the Indian army at a rate of about 4.5 to 1 and captured thousands of Indian cowards while not having a single one of its own soldiers taken captive.

But here's another treat for you:

India no match for China: Navy chief

Straight from the chief of the Indian navy:

“In military terms, both conventionally and unconventionally, we can neither have the capability nor the intention to match China force for force…”

He saw ominous signs everywhere while delivering a talk on India’s national security challenges on Monday. “Whether in terms of GDP, defence spending or any other economic, social or development parameter, the gap between the two is just too wide to bridge (and getting wider by the day).”


And that was in 2011. Since then, China has actually increased its lead over India both economically and militarily.

since you live in a dictatorship, you have no idea how a democracy works do you?

in a democracy, especially one like india the armed forces uses scare tactics to get stuff. even pakistan is used for this purpose

India Loses Combat Edge Over Pakistan -The New Indian Express

Pakistan Air Force has an edge over Indian Air Force: Indian Parliamentary panel

the reality is something else
Compared to the Indian Army, which is arguably the world’s most battle hardened military, the PLA is relatively inexperienced, with limited exposure to wars over the last 50 years, save for the one with Vietnam in 1979, from where it retreated in ignominy, besides some border skirmishes with India. Indian Army’ professionalism and mastery of the entire spectrum of conflicts, ranging from decades of counter-insurgency and guerrilla style operations to four wars with Pakistan, including Kargil, in a diversity of terrains and climatic conditions, remains unsurpassed.

China also invaded Vietnam in February 1979, provoked by the latter’s intervention in Cambodia to end Pol Pot’s reign of brutality and genocide. Employing massive “human wave” tactics, backed by artillery support and armoured columns, the PLA advanced some 20 km into its territory. Far from diverting its Cambodia-based army regulars, Vietnam rallied its second rung yet battle-tested border guards and local militias.

2014 Is Not 1962: India Much Better Prepared For Chinese Challenge - Analysis - Eurasia Review

translation: compared to the expertise of the indian military, PLA is a joke
why do you think america desperately wants india to go against china?

Can't believe some delusion Indian use some Steve Emerson style sources to try convince us Chinese human waves with a ratio of 25:1 defeated Indian armed with sticks and stones in 1962?

Only a dumb idiot with too much Indian ego and pride will buy your story.

Let me show you facts and see for yourselves whether Indian really only armed with stick and stones? Those video are real live footage of 1962 sino indian war.

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read slowly:

In the words of a pakistani analyst:


Till 1965 Pakistan Army keeping in view its equipment and training was relatively superior to the Indian Army.India under Nehru was a peaceful country but the Sino-Indian Conflict of 1962 transformed the whole scenario.Thus while Indian Army had by and large registered no major expansion since 1947 after 1962 the Indians embarked on a highly ambitious expansion programme.It was Pakistan’s good luck that in 1965 this process was at a very rudimentary stage, however by 1971 the whole strategic scenario had changed

 

[AgentOrange]

since you live in a dictatorship, you have no idea how a democracy works do you?

in a democracy, especially one like india the armed forces uses scare tactics to get stuff. even pakistan is used for this purpose

India Loses Combat Edge Over Pakistan -The New Indian Express

Pakistan Air Force has an edge over Indian Air Force: Indian Parliamentary panel

the reality is something else
Compared to the Indian Army, which is arguably the world’s most battle hardened military, the PLA is relatively inexperienced, with limited exposure to wars over the last 50 years, save for the one with Vietnam in 1979, from where it retreated in ignominy, besides some border skirmishes with India. Indian Army’ professionalism and mastery of the entire spectrum of conflicts, ranging from decades of counter-insurgency and guerrilla style operations to four wars with Pakistan, including Kargil, in a diversity of terrains and climatic conditions, remains unsurpassed.

China also invaded Vietnam in February 1979, provoked by the latter’s intervention in Cambodia to end Pol Pot’s reign of brutality and genocide. Employing massive “human wave” tactics, backed by artillery support and armoured columns, the PLA advanced some 20 km into its territory. Far from diverting its Cambodia-based army regulars, Vietnam rallied its second rung yet battle-tested border guards and local militias.

2014 Is Not 1962: India Much Better Prepared For Chinese Challenge - Analysis - Eurasia Review

translation: compared to the expertise of the indian military, PLA is a joke



read slowly:

In the words of a pakistani analyst:


Till 1965 Pakistan Army keeping in view its equipment and training was relatively superior to the Indian Army.India under Nehru was a peaceful country but the Sino-Indian Conflict of 1962 transformed the whole scenario.Thus while Indian Army had by and large registered no major expansion since 1947 after 1962 the Indians embarked on a highly ambitious expansion programme.It was Pakistan’s good luck that in 1965 this process was at a very rudimentary stage, however by 1971 the whole strategic scenario had changed

Here's a picture of the "sticks and stones" the Indian army was equipped with in 1962.

As I said, never fired and only dropped once.

The reality, straight from Adm Mehta himself:

“In military terms, both conventionally and unconventionally, we can neither have the capability nor the intention to match China force for force…”

He saw ominous signs everywhere while delivering a talk on India’s national security challenges on Monday. “Whether in terms of GDP, defence spending or any other economic, social or development parameter, the gap between the two is just too wide to bridge (and getting wider by the day).”

But do go on. Tell me more about how you're more qualified than an Indian admiral.

 

[Beast]

since you live in a dictatorship, you have no idea how a democracy works do you?

in a democracy, especially one like india the armed forces uses scare tactics to get stuff. even pakistan is used for this purpose

India Loses Combat Edge Over Pakistan -The New Indian Express

Pakistan Air Force has an edge over Indian Air Force: Indian Parliamentary panel

the reality is something else
Compared to the Indian Army, which is arguably the world’s most battle hardened military, the PLA is relatively inexperienced, with limited exposure to wars over the last 50 years, save for the one with Vietnam in 1979, from where it retreated in ignominy, besides some border skirmishes with India. Indian Army’ professionalism and mastery of the entire spectrum of conflicts, ranging from decades of counter-insurgency and guerrilla style operations to four wars with Pakistan, including Kargil, in a diversity of terrains and climatic conditions, remains unsurpassed.

China also invaded Vietnam in February 1979, provoked by the latter’s intervention in Cambodia to end Pol Pot’s reign of brutality and genocide. Employing massive “human wave” tactics, backed by artillery support and armoured columns, the PLA advanced some 20 km into its territory. Far from diverting its Cambodia-based army regulars, Vietnam rallied its second rung yet battle-tested border guards and local militias.

2014 Is Not 1962: India Much Better Prepared For Chinese Challenge - Analysis - Eurasia Review



read slowly:

In the words of a pakistani analyst:


Till 1965 Pakistan Army keeping in view its equipment and training was relatively superior to the Indian Army.India under Nehru was a peaceful country but the Sino-Indian Conflict of 1962 transformed the whole scenario.Thus while Indian Army had by and large registered no major expansion since 1947 after 1962 the Indians embarked on a highly ambitious expansion programme.It was Pakistan’s good luck that in 1965 this process was at a very rudimentary stage, however by 1971 the whole strategic scenario had changed

Let me show you who is the real aggressor.

It wasn't China, but Nehru who declared 1962 war: Australian journalist Neville Maxwell - The Times of India

Article by times of India and sources verify by Neville Maxwell who directly has access to the Indian government reports.

Here's a picture of the "sticks and stones" the Indian army was equipped with in 1962.
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As I said, never fired and only dropped once.

INdian were utterly useless and defeated by Chinese even Indians were well armed. They lost the war and need to find an excuse to hide their incompetency.

 

[AgentOrange]

Let me show you who is the real aggressor.

It wasn't China, but Nehru who declared 1962 war: Australian journalist Neville Maxwell - The Times of India

Article by times of India and sources verify by Neville Maxwell who directly has access to the Indian government reports.


INdian were utterly useless and defeated by Chinese even Indians were well armed. They lost the war and need to find an excuse to hide their incompetency.

Exactly. You see the deep psychological trauma they suffered from a humiliating loss in war they started by backstabbing China. And they'll do anything to "avenge" their defeat even if it means re-writing history.

Sadly for them the war was well documented with ample photographic evidence so they'll never be able to hide their shame. Not to mention the 40,000 sq km of land that China got as payment for the Indian army's treachery turned cowardice.

 

[Shinigami]

Here's a picture of the "sticks and stones" the Indian army was equipped with in 1962.
View attachment 184536

As I said, never fired and only dropped once.

The reality, straight from Adm Mehta himself:

“In military terms, both conventionally and unconventionally, we can neither have the capability nor the intention to match China force for force…”

He saw ominous signs everywhere while delivering a talk on India’s national security challenges on Monday. “Whether in terms of GDP, defence spending or any other economic, social or development parameter, the gap between the two is just too wide to bridge (and getting wider by the day).”

But do go on. Tell me more about how you're more qualified than an Indian admiral.

i knew you chinese where slow. dint know you were this stupid
read my post again

since you live in a dictatorship, you have no idea how a democracy works do you?

in a democracy, especially one like india the armed forces uses scare tactics to get stuff. even pakistan is used for this purpose

India Loses Combat Edge Over Pakistan -The New Indian Express

Pakistan Air Force has an edge over Indian Air Force: Indian Parliamentary panel

the reality is something else
Compared to the Indian Army, which is arguably the world’s most battle hardened military, the PLA is relatively inexperienced, with limited exposure to wars over the last 50 years, save for the one with Vietnam in 1979, from where it retreated in ignominy, besides some border skirmishes with India. Indian Army’ professionalism and mastery of the entire spectrum of conflicts, ranging from decades of counter-insurgency and guerrilla style operations to four wars with Pakistan, including Kargil, in a diversity of terrains and climatic conditions, remains unsurpassed.

China also invaded Vietnam in February 1979, provoked by the latter’s intervention in Cambodia to end Pol Pot’s reign of brutality and genocide. Employing massive “human wave” tactics, backed by artillery support and armoured columns, the PLA advanced some 20 km into its territory. Far from diverting its Cambodia-based army regulars, Vietnam rallied its second rung yet battle-tested border guards and local militias.

2014 Is Not 1962: India Much Better Prepared For Chinese Challenge - Analysis - Eurasia Review

translation: compared to the expertise of the indian military, PLA is a joke
why do you think america desperately wants india to go against china?


read slowly:

In the words of a pakistani analyst:


Till 1965 Pakistan Army keeping in view its equipment and training was relatively superior to the Indian Army.India under Nehru was a peaceful country but the Sino-Indian Conflict of 1962 transformed the whole scenario.Thus while Indian Army had by and large registered no major expansion since 1947 after 1962 the Indians embarked on a highly ambitious expansion programme.It was Pakistan’s good luck that in 1965 this process was at a very rudimentary stage, however by 1971 the whole strategic scenario had changed

and,please show a link for that photograph. you chinese are not trustworthy

 

[AgentOrange]

i knew you chinese where slow. dint know you were this stupid
read my post again


and,please show a link for that photograph. you chinese are not trustworthy

Of course, when the truth is deeply humiliating to you, the Chinese are "not trustworthy." Keep burying your head in the sand and China will keep sitting on Aksai Chin. Sounds like a good deal to me.

 

[Beast]

Of course, when the truth is deeply humiliating to you, the Chinese are "not trustworthy." Keep burying your head in the sand and China will keep sitting on Aksai Chin. Sounds like a good deal to me.

The only thing that INdian wins over Chinese is their thick skin. In face of defeat and humiliation, the Indian will always think they are winner and excuse/scapegoat are their biggest comfort.

 

[Shinigami]

Of course, when the truth is deeply humiliating to you, the Chinese are "not trustworthy." Keep burying your head in the sand and China will keep sitting on Aksai Chin. Sounds like a good deal to me.

you people are pathetic.

you know, if india suddenly attacked a country having an almost zero military with full force and occupied land using human wave tactics, we would NEVER boast about it. in fact we would be ashamed

 

[AgentOrange]

i knew you chinese where slow. dint know you were this stupid

By the way, you think that Chinese people are "slow"? Should I show you the PISA rankings and how you people fared the last time your "brilliant" students participated? Hint: Shortly after, India stopped participating altogether to avoid further humiliation. Let me know if you want a link for that. I'd be happy to oblige.

Aww, I'm such a nice guy. Here are the PISA rankings:

Programme for International Student Assessment - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And the last time India participated...India ranked 72 out of 73 countries.

Times Of India | Blogs

 

[Shinigami]

The only thing that INdian wins over Chinese is their thick skin. In face of defeat and humiliation, the Indian will always think they are winner and excuse/scapegoat are their biggest comfort.

sometimes toughest lessons are the best. if china had not attacked in 1962, india today would be a weak little pansy instead of a military powerhouse. in fact this was discussed long time back
If china had not attacked india, would pakistan have won the 65 war?

 

[AgentOrange]

you people are pathetic.

you know, if india suddenly attacked a country having an almost zero military with full force and occupied land using human wave tactics, we would NEVER boast about it. in fact we would be ashamed

India attacked first in an attempt to "throw out the Chinese", got humiliated, and concocted a pathetically unbelievable story to save face. Sadly, some Indians were so psychologically devastated by the shameful defeat that their butthurt was passed down from grandfather to father to son to PDF.

 

[Shinigami]

By the way, you think that Chinese people are "slow"? Should I show you the PISA rankings and how you people fared the last time your "brilliant" students participated? Hint: Shortly after, India stopped participating altogether to avoid further humiliation. Let me know if you want a link for that. I'd be happy to oblige.

Aww, I'm such a nice guy. Here are the PISA rankings:

Programme for International Student Assessment - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And the last time India participated...India ranked 72 out of 73 countries.

Times Of India | Blogs

PISA
all this and the "high IQ" in china is fabricated by the PRC to make themselves look good. World Student Rankings: China Is Cheating the PISA System | TIME.com

Enough is enough: Beijing must supply national data to assessors and not simply the results of a small minority of elite students

Are Chinese students smarter or is testing system rigged in their favour? | South China Morning Post