Those excluded in NRC won’t be taken back by Bangladesh

[Mage]

Say goodbye to the liberation we gave to your entirety.

Sure....sure.

Whatever I posted, it is likely to happen when BAL gets kicked out and an anti-India govt comes in. BD won't have to do anything radical to change to what I wrote. Actually Khaleda period was somewhat like this. ULFA getting limited support from BD, India got no transit and BD people didn't visit India in such high number.(Not with Visa at least) ....Yet our relation was cool. BD won't have to do anything radical to do what I wrote.....India on the other hand has to annex a country that they were the first to recognize. Which would drastically increase the Muslim population of India and eventually burn it down?

Let me ask you, In a hypothetical situation where BD does all the things, I mentioned....would India still annex Bangladesh?

EDIT: Oh ****...don't reply......this thread has gone down the drains......You can talk about rape and and livability........I wouldn't bother to take part.

 

[Nilgiri]

India on the other hand has to annex a country that they were the first to recognize. Which would drastically increase the Muslim population of India and eventually burn it down?

Nah man, India doesn't have to annex at all. British didn't annex any colony....only French did for Algeria (Algeria was considered part of Metropolitan France) and thats why pied noirs became a real problem.

All India has to do is remove BD govt and obliterate a section of BD military as needed, ideally by getting them to fight among themselves first. No need for an occupation at all (this is where Pakistan went really wrong combined with the logistics nightmare)...just get some lackeys to run the administration in BD version 2.0 (however temporary or permanent that needs to be)....and rinse and repeat as needed.

You seem to misunderstand that I am calling for annexation of BD when I say removing of liberation. You just wont have any freedom to have your own govt or military within the political boundary we have recognised for Bengali muslim majority ppl. Territory wise at most CHT will be stripped away from you (either independence or joined to Burma or India) and maybe India will annex Northern BD around siliguri corridor and deport everyone there down to the delta proper. But core BD will not be annexed at all or ever for the very reasons you post.

So yeah maybe you will finally mature enough to wield such things (political independence + military) afterwards with time.... but first Haseena needs to hold onto power and then feel confident enough to not cooperate with India on the BD illegals issue next year onwards. Both need a lot of short term brittleness to be invested by BD... which long term is fine with us....because we know the cracking and scrambling will follow shortly.

@django @Desert Fox @Aung Zaya

 

[Mage]

All India has to do is remove BD govt and obliterate a section of BD military as needed

Unlikely that India will have a friendlier govt than it has now.

just get some lackeys to run the administration in BD version 2.0 (however temporary or permanent that needs to be)....and rinse and repeat as needed.

Some would say you are already doing that.

You just wont have any freedom to have your own govt

Don't have it already.......no big deal. Chinese don't have the right to have their own govt either....Actually no country has a govt truly for it's people.

or military within the political boundary we have recognised for Bengali muslim majority ppl.

So military will be abolished?

So yeah maybe you will finally mature enough to wield such things (political independence + military) afterwards with time

Then what happens to

Say goodbye to the liberation we gave to your entirety.

but first Haseena needs to hold onto power and then feel confident enough to not cooperate with India on the BD illegals issue next year onwards.

There won't be any issue at all. There won't be any mass deportation. Indian administration knows what's good for them....mass deportation won't help BD and won't help India in any way either. I'd make a bet with you that in next 3 years India won't be able to deport 40K to BD. And thats just 1% of the claimed illegals from Assam. India, I believe has more prestige than Myanmar and for India it is much more complex than it was for Myanmar.

Both need a lot of short term brittleness to be invested by BD... which long term is fine with us....because we know the cracking and scrambling will follow shortly.

So wise.

@django @Desert Fox @Aung Zaya

Why are you tagging the Rohingyas? Wanna inform that Baluchistan is about to become independent Rakhine state? I think one of them is a Rakhine Baloch here.

Nah man, India doesn't have to annex at all. British didn't annex any colony....

Times have changed.....you know.

One thing we can agree with is, India tries and will continue to try to influence BD govt, indirectly to serve India's interest. And BD govt including Hasina knows that well. That's one of the main reason I see BD trying to get closer to China(without bothering India too much of course).

 

[Kaniska]

To some extent, i am empathetic to BD..Gov...Why would BD gov will take back some unwanted people when they did not come in a legal way from BD to India...The illegal immrigation is not a problem for the country from where people immigrate rather it is a problem for the host country...

So in simple term, it may be a problem for BD...But again, let these unwanted illegal document suffer being disconnected from the social network grid of Indian Gov...

In a more human terms, we can not replace a human settlement from any place...Rather, restrict them with access to Government programs and other institutions where our tax payer money is used to subsidies illegal immigrants...

Okay Chaudhary : )

We'll deal with the sanghis as we deem fit. Not your concern.

Neither is Kashmir your concern.

India isn't Germany in its scope and structure. This is the mistake you and hussain make during the "today them, tomorrow you" argument. There are enclaves in India bigger than Germany that just won't budge to or be affected by Hindutva extremism, not just informally, but on a government and legislative level.

Surely, theoretically anything is possible. But then you should be worrying about Bengali Hindus before showing 'concern' for all Indian Muslims as if India is some Birmingham colony in its functioning.

You are naive if you expect any one in Muslim majority nation is really care about providing equal right to Non Muslims in their nation...

A nation and its culture of the land is much more important to the people than any religion to succeed on top of it....

 

[Nilgiri]

Unlikely that India will have a friendlier govt than it has now.

Again a friendly or unfriendly govt means little (esp given there is an envelope set in stone by India already as to what the boundaries are there).

Better to be feared than loved by the underlings.

"Friendship" with 0 defined bounds only matters for something among peer equivalents.

Some would say you are already doing that.

To some extent, but I am talking about if BD does not play ball midterm and longterm on the illegals. That is a deal breaker as far as allowing BD in its current political set up to continue to exist. So better lackeys can be deployed again in a better version 2.0 as we define, create and mould it....rather than let current shadow of East Pakistan continue defacto structurally as far as that goes (administratively, constitutionally direct or influence wise etc).

Don't have it already.......no big deal. Chinese don't have the right to have their own govt either....Actually no country has a govt truly for it's people.

I mean fully officially with no semblance of a locally created constitution (i.e defacto colonization)....that would be a pretty big deal, and SHW and all political players (incl military) in BD know that. There is only so much they can dither around within the envelope of love/hate with India that only the latter defines. This is the perpetual cost of liberation. If India pulls the trigger and makes this illegal issue a forefront red line with time that has been crossed, BD simply has to play ball to survive in its current status quo. No one is coming to assist you (no one did for the Myanmar rohingya expulsion after all and they are far smaller and less connected to BD fundamental political set up than India)....so you will have to bend the knee....its fine, everyone has to....same would happen if positions were reversed....but reality is what it is.

There won't be any issue at all. There won't be any mass deportation. Indian administration knows what's good for them....mass deportation won't help BD and won't help India in any way either. I'd make a bet with you that in next 3 years India won't be able to deport 40K to BD. And thats just 1% of the claimed illegals from Assam. India, I believe has more prestige than Myanmar and for India it is much more complex than it was for Myanmar.

LOL 3 years? Easy win. Yes let's make that bet. For starters, you are not going to enjoy next year at all when final NRC list is out december this year (combined with SHW in precarious position after rigging yet another election)....and you are adding another 2 years too...nice.

 

[Homo Sapiens]

To some extent, i am empathetic to BD..Gov...Why would BD gov will take back some unwanted people when they did not come in a legal way from BD to India...The illegal immrigation is not a problem for the country from where people immigrate rather it is a problem for the host country...

Most importantly, why should we take any amount of people you declared as non-citizen? India declared them non-citizen because they could not show enough documents to prove their Indian citizenship,right? then why we should accept any people who will be unable to proof their Bangladeshi citizenship either? We are already accepting deportee from India every year who can prove their Bangladeshi citizenship.This is nothing new and no new mechanism or deal need to sign between Bangladesh and India.We are always open to accept anyone gone to India either legally or illegally after 1971 provided that they can prove their post 1971 citizenship in Bangladesh.Mechanism to accept deportee from India is already in place.

There are 10 million overseas Bangladeshis in various part of the world, in Middle east, south east Asia, Europe, America even in Latin America.Not all of them gone to legal ways.But they are not facing any difficulties to come back in Bangladesh nor anyone is preventing them to return.Because they have enough documents to prove their Bangladeshi citizenship.So why it should be any different for any post 1971 Bangladeshi person living in India who has valid Bangladeshi documents to come back? People who have no documents in your NCR exercise, why should we accept when you are unwilling to do that?

 

[Nilgiri]

But they are not facing any difficulties to come back in Bangladesh

Hey @Tiberius , when are you expelling these back to where they came from? Do you agree with this Bangladeshi poster that the BD illegals in italy are "not facing any difficulties" to go back to BD?

https://www.irinnews.org/analysis/2017/06/01/explaining-bangladeshi-migrant-surge-italy

They are spreading like roaches everywhere:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...ing-dhaka-dubai-turkey-detained-a7713911.html

@Desert Fox @Psychic @Aung Zaya

 

[Tiberius]

Hey @Tiberius , when are you expelling these back to where they came from? Do you agree with this Bangladeshi poster that the BD illegals in italy are "not facing any difficulties" to go back to BD?

https://www.irinnews.org/analysis/2017/06/01/explaining-bangladeshi-migrant-surge-italy

They are spreading like roaches everywhere:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...ing-dhaka-dubai-turkey-detained-a7713911.html

@Desert Fox @Psychic @Aung Zaya

We already started this. We plan to deport 600.000 (this includes those) from Italy. If they dont go back Bangladesh, we will deport them to Eritrea, we have a deal with them.

@Nilgiri

https://www.dhakatribune.com/bangla...-pressure-bring-back-rejected-asylum-seekers/

 

[TopCat]

We already started this. We plan to deport 600.000 (this includes those) from Italy. If they dont go back Bangladesh, we will deport them to Eritrea, we have a deal with them.

@Nilgiri

https://www.dhakatribune.com/bangla...-pressure-bring-back-rejected-asylum-seekers/

Bangladesh has accord with EU to receive any illegal migrant in a gradual manner. You people need to stop issuing political asylum on false ground. This is the biggest incentives for illegal immigrant to risk their life to go to europe and creating problem for originating nation as well.

Any plan to deport Indian or they will be put on to compete for office in next election? Also make sure @Nilgiri type people, they will show you that they are going for one purpose and after that will try every bit of loophole in your system including marrying a fat women to get settled in western countries (note his flag). They had never planned to coming back before they left the country to begin with.

 

[UKBengali]

Any plan to deport Indian or they will be put on to compete for office in next election? Also make sure @Nilgiri type people, they will show you that they are going for one purpose and after that will try every bit of loophole in your system including marrying a fat women to get settled in western countries (note his flag). They had never planned to coming back before they left the country to begin with.

That must be the only way that moron got into Canada.

@Nilgiri - Just how did you get into Canada?

 

[Tiberius]

Bangladesh has accord with EU to receive any illegal migrant in a gradual manner. You people need to stop issuing political asylum on false ground. This is the biggest incentives for illegal immigrant to risk their life to go to europe and creating problem for originating nation as well.

Any plan to deport Indian or they will be put on to compete for office in next election? Also make sure @Nilgiri type people, they will show you that they are going for one purpose and after that will try every bit of loophole in your system including marrying a fat women to get settled in western countries (note his flag). They had never planned to coming back before they left the country to begin with.

Italy issues no asylum at all anymore. We have a far right government.

We need to sort this out. Bangladesh is just one example. If we can solve this in peace, would be best. If not we have to send them back against other countries will.

 

[Sam.]

We already started this. We plan to deport 600.000 (this includes those) from Italy. If they dont go back Bangladesh, we will deport them to Eritrea, we have a deal with them.

@Nilgiri

https://www.dhakatribune.com/bangla...-pressure-bring-back-rejected-asylum-seekers/

You will be conquered by Bangladesh now. Get ready to be attacked by 6 Gen fighters jets and aircraft carrier.
@bluesky @Nilgiri

 

[TopCat]

That must be the only way that moron got into Canada.

@Nilgiri - Just how did you get into Canada?

A respected person will not immigrate!!

Italy issues no asylum at all anymore. We have a far right government.

We need to sort this out. Bangladesh is just one example. If we can solve this in peace, would be best. If not we have to send them back against other countries will.

You should not have any problem dealing with BD law. BD government has to accept and let its citizen come back to the country. This is in our constitution. But make sure you follow the right procedure and coordinate with our embassy in Milan.

 

[UKBengali]

A respected person will not immigrate!!

This retard also joins in with racists on this form to talk about immigrants swamping the West when he sneaked in as an adult into Canada by dubious means.

 

[Homo Sapiens]

We already started this. We plan to deport 600.000 (this includes those) from Italy. If they dont go back Bangladesh, we will deport them to Eritrea, we have a deal with them.

I do not think Bangladesh has any problem to accept any Bangladeshi deportee from Italy or any other EU state.We are already accepting Bangladeshi deportee from EU under repatriation agreement.
https://www.dhakatribune.com/bangla...ocumented-bangladeshis-repatriation-agreement