This was how they got the figures of One million Uyghurs Incarceration in China?

[beijingwalker]

You have to understand that no one that has basic sound intelligence outside China.... takes anything the CCP asserts credibly on just about anything ....not without having the other side of the story presented credibly by those facing and experiencing it on ground....and large enough persistent, credible and organised voices of their to present it.

Who is "no one"?

A great Civilisation that once developed and enshrined the concept of Yin and Yang.....now having a bunch of power hungry thugs and cabals asserting a total stark monolith of "might = right" in every discipline of national ethos.... tragic.

The same bunch of thugs haven't fired a single shot to any country to show their "might" for the past 40 years.

 

[Joe Shearer]

The same bunch of thugs haven't fired a single shot to any country to show their "might" for the past 40 years.

Are you serious about that assertion? Short of firing a gun, everything else has been done, including using clubs with barbed wire wrapped around them. I understand your patriotism, but the speeches that you seem to be compelled to make ring hollow, in the face of the constant and unceasing bullying that takes place everywhere.

 

[beijingwalker]

Are you serious about that assertion? Short of firing a gun, everything else has been done, including using clubs with barbed wire wrapped around them. I understand your patriotism, but the speeches that you seem to be compelled to make ring hollow, in the face of the constant and unceasing bullying that takes place everywhere.

Indian soldiers came over to the Chinese side to look for trouble, we didn't go to Indian troops side, that' s fact both parties recognised, and street fights with sticks happen everywhere, Indians also fought with them. But PLA hasn't fired a single shot for over 4 decades is a fact, we don't shoot civilians, women and children like Indians regularly do along its borders.

 

[Nilgiri]

The same bunch of thugs haven't fired a single shot to any country to show their "might" for the past 40 years.

Forget India since I am going to be biased on that for argument sake.

a) What of the accounts of the soviets on the first initial clashes at Ussuri? What was done to those border guards (that surrendered) by PLA.... have you read of it?

b) What do you call what PLA did in 1979 to try (I do stress the try) "get to" Hanoi....a picnic excursion?

No shots were fired for might here?

Forget the landings by Mao on ROC for argument sake again (since you can claim its your "own")

Spare me this ridiculous argument man....40 years? Who choose that as cut-off?

 

[Nike]

Indian soldiers came over to the Chinese side to look for trouble, we didn't go to Indian troops side, that' s fact both parties recognised, and street fights with sticks happen everywhere, Indians also fought with them. But PLA hasn't fired a single shot for over 4 decades is a fact, we don't shoot civilians, women and children like Indians regularly do along its borders.

Vietnamese will disagree with your claim

 

[Nilgiri]

Vietnamese will disagree with your claim

Yah there has been ongoing stuff regarding them up to early 90s I read. Again legacy of the 1979 excursion picnic.

 

[beijingwalker]

Forget India since I am going to be biased on that for argument sake.

a) What of the accounts of the soviets on the first initial clashes at Ussuri? What was done to those border guards (that surrendered) by PLA.... have you read of it?

b) What do you call what PLA did in 1979 to try (I do stress the try) "get to" Hanoi....a picnic excursion?

No shots were fired for might here?
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Those clashed were over 40 years, I said PLA hasn't fired a shot for 4 decades, not 10 decades.

 

[Nike]

Forget India since I am going to be biased on that for argument sake.

a) What of the accounts of the soviets on the first initial clashes at Ussuri? What was done to those border guards (that surrendered) by PLA.... have you read of it?

b) What do you call what PLA did in 1979 to try (I do stress the try) "get to" Hanoi....a picnic excursion?

No shots were fired for might here?

Forget the landings by Mao on ROC for argument sake again (since you can claim its your "own")

Spare me this ridiculous argument man....40 years? Who choose that as cut-off?

They are living on Lalala land in which PRC claimed their victory upon cooperation and peace solution, the picnic they did in South Korea and Vietnam is part of their promoting their peacefull ideology, and now they using their boats to start their picnic routine in South China Sea

 

[Nilgiri]

Who is "no one"?

I stressed the basic sound intelligence as well.

Lackeys, toadies and cheerleaders are disqualified....sorry.

If they are to be included in some manner of debate anyway, CCP can do its bit first and let uighurs speak up first.

Fairness is important right?

 

[Nike]

Those clashed were over 40 years, I said PLA hasn't fired a shot for 4 decades, not 10 decades.

You are combating Vietnam in 1988 too and routinely sending artillery shells all the way until 1991 as gift then

I stressed the basic sound intelligence as well.

Lackeys, toadies and cheerleaders are disqualified....sorry.

If they are to be included in some manner of debate anyway, CCP can do its bit first and let uighurs speak up first.

Fairness is important right?

Forget the Vietnamese they even sending ballistic Missiles over Taiwan Border as a new year gift before the Advent of US intervention in Taiwan Strait crisis in 1996

 

[beijingwalker]

You are combating Vietnam in 1988 too and routinely sending artillery shells all the way until 1991 as gift then

If that naval clash being counted, we still haven't fire a single shot for 30 years, still remarkably peaceful country comparing with most big countries, right?

 

[Nilgiri]

Those clashed were over 40 years, I said PLA hasn't fired a shot for 4 decades, not 10 decades.

Its a silly cut-off (to begin with) and already proven wrong by real Vietnam border conflicts persisting into 80s and early 90s.

CCP only existed from 40 years ago or something?

Then what happens if one brings up Tibet, HK and East Turkestan .... suddenly the violence, deaths and casualities (perpetrated by CCP) are "internalised" and it becomes ok? So it can't count to breaking the 40 year peace-streak?

Notion rejected and flatly.

 

[beijingwalker]

Then what happens if one brings up Tibet, HK and East Turkestan .... suddenly the violence, deaths and casualities (perpetrated by CCP) are "internalised" and it becomes ok? So it can't count to breaking the 40 year peace-streak?

Notion rejected and flatly.

If so India can be divided into 100 countries, I can claim every Indian state is an independent country.

 

[Joe Shearer]

Indian soldiers came over to the Chinese side to look for trouble, we didn't go to Indian troops side, that' s fact both parties recognised, and street fights with sticks happen everywhere, Indians also fought with them. But PLA hasn't fired a single shot for over 4 decades is a fact, we don't shoot civilians, women and children like Indians regularly do along its borders.

LOL.

Yes, I understand, the Indian troops came over to look for trouble, and they found Chinese soldiers waiting for them with clubs already wrapped with barbed wire. Of course, that was quite accidental; it was the time-honoured Chinese festival of Wrap your Club with Barbed Wire, and the fight most unfortunately coincided with that festival.

Who told you that Indians shoot civilians, women and children along their borders? Have you been reading threads on PDF or something erudite like that?

I suppose sounding ridiculous is part of the package.

 

[Nilgiri]

If so India can be divided into 100 countries, I can claim every Indian state is an independent country.

I am not asserting India is at some waaah-stronk peace for 30 or 40 years either.

That too no way jose India could do something as unpeaceful and uncivil like China does with uighurs at this scale and short time period.