THIS IS WHO WOULD WIN AN AIR BATTLE BETWEEN INDIA AND CHINA

[SSGcommandoPAK]

A French Dassault Rafale performs. By 2020, India will be operating a number of Rafales

India and China are the world’s two most populous countries.

But they’re not the best of friends, and they’ve had years of military tension, including a brief war in 1962. Even today, there’s an off chance that tensions over Bhutan could spark another one.

In the 1962 war, air power didn’t play much of a role. Today, though, both sides have modern capable air forces, and they could go head-to-head.

According to GlobalSecurity.org, by 2020, the Indian air force will operate a mix of Su-30MKI Flankers, Dassault Rafales, Mirage 2000s, MiG-29 Fulcrums, modernized MiG-21s, and the indigenous Tejas fighter. Older planes in service would include the Jaguar ground attack plane and possibly MiG-27s. The backbone of this force would be as many as 280 of the Flankers.

A Sukhoi Su-30MKI Air Superiority Fighter of the Indian Air Force

GlobalSecurity.org notes that the People’s Liberation Army Air Force, like the Indian Air Force, relies heavily on Flankers — though these are primarily the J-11, China’s copy of the Su-27. By 2020, China could have as many as 312 of the baseline J-11s, plus about 24 Su-35S Flankers, roughly 65 Su-30MKK Flankers, and 75 J-11B Flankers. China also would be able to add a large number of J-10 Firebird multi-role fighters, older J-7 Fishbed and J-8 Finback fighters, and JH-7 Flounder fighter-bombers.

China technically has a larger force. However, with the tensions in the South China Sea, as well as a maritime territorial dispute with Japan over the Senkaku Islands, the Chinese cannot focus all of their force on India, at the risk of facing a conflict on three fronts.

PLAAF's Chengdu J-10 Lightweight Multirole Fighter

FlightGlobal.com notes that the People’s Liberation Army Navy Air Force has roughly 190 fighters and fighter-bombers on hand, but over 100 of them are older J-7, J-8, and Q-5 aircraft that would be over-matched by Japan.

India faces a somewhat similar division problem due to Pakistan’s relatively close military relationship with China, but that is arguably more of an extension of a single front. Most of Pakistan’s combat aircraft are also older designs like the Mirage III, Mirage 5, and J-7.

A Mirage-2000 fighter of the Indian Air Force

This becomes the biggest factor in any Sino-Indian air war. China could theoretically crush the Indian Air Force by focusing all its fighting power on the task.

The problem China faces is that such a focus would prove a Phyrric victory, as its claims in the East China Sea and South China Sea could become highly vulnerable. But if China sends in only part of its force, it risks seeing the People’s Liberation Army Air Force be defeated in detail.

India, on the other hand, faces no such problems. As such, it has a good chance to win an air war with China, simply because the Indians don’t face a potential second front.

http://www.wearethemighty.com/inter...uld-win-an-air-battle-between-india-and-china

By 2020 China will have around 60 + J-20s ... while India will still have no 5th Gen platform ..

 

[Beast]

where were you when india was sitting in chinese territory for more than 60 days ? you were busy on durand line ? hain ?



we already have our armor sitting next to chinese border, we dont need to transport them.
btw, in the event of war.. all of your railway lines will be taken out first.

I was reading that you were transporting to your military to doklam and it dint reach ?

Another self comfort comment to denial the reality. Indian armour masses around the border are just sitting duck for our Precision rocket attack.

As if Indian has the abilities to take out our railway, IAF has no fifth gen fighter and the moment IAF fighter take off , it will be detected by our AWACS and China air defense is one of the most formidable. Our SAM is even able to take out your IAF fighter in your airspace.

Indian army with poor infrastructures are not able to ensure good logistics support and thing like arty rds once expended. Indian army will fail to operate.

China with superior logistic line and world factory will chunk out unlimited rds to outlast obsolete Indian army.

 

[haidian]

of course, india is neither small or weak.
Dont flatter your self.

Compare to who? India is one third of China in area and one fifth in GDP .

 

[The BrOkEn HeArT]

Doklam part -2.
India - 1
China -0

Let's see who will win part -2​

 

[haidian]

Doklam part -2.
India - 1
China -0

Let's see who will win part -2​

Of course , India always wins.
http://www.newsweek.com/john-elliott-when-india-and-china-compete-india-always-loses-588771

 

[Cookie Monster]

@Beast Fifth Gen fighters are not immune to SAM's. It's not a hypersonic missile to go undetected. You are talking about a fighter. Not a bomber. Even the F-35 had several lock on's. You can paint a fighter with stealthy paint, but you can't change the atmosphere, it is air. These resonant effects are easily detected. And there is a limit to radar absorbent coating. That's the case of F-35. Don't even start J-20s/31's.

It's true 5th gen aircraft are not immune to being shot down...but they would prove a challenge.

Anyways that's not really a concern as of now since China doesn't have them in numbers yet(though it would soon).

My issue with this article is that it's biased. I think the article correctly points out the fact that China has other adversaries and can't focus all it's might solely on India but it really downplays that India is in the same situation. India too cannot make full use of everything against China hoping that Pak won't take advantage.

 

[Canuck786]

All we are trying to tell the Indians is that under the circumstances they should be scared, VERY SCARED!

 

[Thetigerforces]

Indian airforce will end up like those maggot pos in the mil mi 17 yesterday

Lol.... people like you trying to flame and bait on this forum..... do Indians on this forum ever say things like this when Pakistani aircraft crashes?

 

[Taygibay]

...do Indians on this forum ever say things like this when Pakistani aircraft crashes?

Tigers is exaggerating here because yes they do
but he's still right in the first part of his post.

That penultimate post has no place on a mil forum.
Those soldiers may have died due to incompetency
or error somewhere in their national AFs / govt but
they are still soldiers which is to be respected.

In general, calling people you don't like maggots or
dogs or anything similar only shows that you do not
recognize their humanity.

And that's your sin, not theirs!

Good day, Tay.

 

[313ghazi]

China
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[Thetigerforces]

Tigers is exaggerating here because yes they do
but he's still right in the first part of his post.

That penultimate post has no place on a mil forum.
Those soldiers may have died due to incompetency
or error somewhere in their national AFs / govt but
they are still soldiers which is to be respected.

In general, calling people you don't like maggots or
dogs or anything similar only shows that you do not
recognize their humanity.

And that's your sin, not theirs!

Good day, Tay.

You are very correct. Both Indians and Pakistanis on this forum seem to forget that the soldiers on both sides are human beings at the end of the day.

 

[rambro]

India would be left without an airforce.
IRL Bollywood logic doesnt work

 

[BATMAN]

This is another BS article.

All BS articles must be posted by boogey man @Zarvan they serve a purpose for him

You are very correct. Both Indians and Pakistanis on this forum seem to forget that the soldiers on both sides are human beings at the end of the day.

Indian soldiers shooting at Kashmiris with pellet guns, abducting children from their schools, torturing adults to death, burning villages,........ are sub humans.

 

[Thetigerforces]

All BS articles must be posted by boogey man @Zarvan they serve a purpose for him



Indian soldiers shooting at Kashmiris with pellet guns, abducting children from their schools, torturing adults to death, burning villages,........ are sub humans.

There are some bad people in the indian army just like there are some bad people in the pakistan army.

 

[Arsalan 345]

who would win? China will destroy all Indian jets on ground even before attempting to take off.there is no match between China and india.india can't stand a chance against China in any kind of war.