There is no unity among people in Pakistan.

[Solomon2]

One cannot expect from a foreigner to be an expert on our matters. Nor can we expect from a foreigner to understand us. Can we?

Depends how much study the foreigner in question makes of Pakistan and Pakistanis, I suppose.

 

[PDF]

Depends how much study the foreigner in question makes of Pakistan and Pakistanis, I suppose.

Maybe, but I would always prefer expert who is from the Nation he is discussing than an expert who is foreigner.

 

[PDF]

sir

I am only 16 and probably you are of my father's age so ... I guess you understand what I am trying to say...

 

[Solomon2]

Maybe, but I would always prefer expert who is from the Nation he is discussing than an expert who is foreigner.

Outsiders offer a different perspective. Consider a weather satellite. It's 22,000 miles away, yet it can see in an instant weather patterns that would otherwise take dozens of locals hours to figure out. Because locals mostly see locally while the weather satellite can see the larger picture and context.

 

[PDF]

Outsiders offer a different perspective. Consider a weather satellite. It's 22,000 miles away, yet it can see in an instant weather patterns that would otherwise take dozens of locals hours to figure out. Because locals mostly see locally while the weather satellite can see the larger picture and context.

You also have a point. Outside opinion has alot of significance. But what interpretation the french expert made here is not fully correct. Well only time will tell who is right and who is not...

 

[Viper 94]

Oh dear god. How many Indian election campaigns you have seen so far ?

i have seen enough
and the media propaganda can't be ignored either
besides i mentioned other reasons to

 

[Samudra Manthan]

Pakistan is a peculiar nation, on paper, it was made to fail and was given a lifespan of only five years but not only did it survived, it thrived. It was not an easy journey by any means, we fought wars, there were floods, there was political instability, our compatriots in the east parted ways with us in less than amicable fashion, we bore the brunt of the world's largest refugee exodus, we were sanctioned and then were plagued by terrorism and yet here we stand.
Like I said, its a strange nation. The more pressed we feel against the wall, the harder we spring back. The more circumstances pull us apart, we gel closer. We smile amidst tragedy and are at peace with our pain.
There is no scholar that can explain this, it is just national character.

From another forum, I found this priceless piece of analysis of the Pakistani mindset which should also go a long way in reducing any confusion you or anyone else has about Pakistani nation.

--I'd proposed the filter of (IIRC) 'Rejection and Divorce' for understanding the actions of a Pakistani individual, group, caste, sect, organization or even the entire nation state.

In short, the Pakistani's mental conditioning forces drives him to reject 'everything that is not him', and divorce it with usually violent consequences. Anything can and has been defined as the 'everything that is not him'.

This rejection could be of a philosophy, an individual, a group, a religion, a car, a building..anything. It's happening all the time, over or under the surface.

1947 was Jinnah's rejection of and divorce with the rest of India, a process begun under Syed Ahmad Khan. India was defined as 'everything that Jinnah and others like him were not'.

The 50s saw the Armed Forces rejecting of and divorcing with the politicians post Jinnah. The politicians were everything that the army wasn't.

1971 was Pakistan's rejection of and divorce with Bangladesh. Bangladesh was a 'low lying country with low, lying peoples', according to the Pakistani elite at the time.

Baluchistan is continuing evidence of the same work in process. Thus far the divorce has not been completed.

Zia separated and divorced himself from Bhutto, Qadri from Taseer's philosophy, the TTP from the Pakjabi army. The son of a senior Pakistani air force officer who set up a car bomb in the NY, USA, rejected America and tried to violently divorce what it stood for.

And so on.

Note; they also reject their own mango abduls. They reject other families, clans, castes, tribes, other regions and provinces. Your point of "...the cabal of Pakjabis, Sindhis and mohajirs - have been continuously rejecting parts of Pakistan" is very valid.

It gets more insidious- at the heart of who they are, Pakjabis and their other elites, have also rejected their own identities in favour or a Saudi, Turkish, Iranian world view. This is IMO the biggest and most recurrently exploding time bomb of all.

Because they don't want to be who they are, they are rejecting and divorcing their very self, which is the ultimate font of violence.

Whereas other healthier cultures also 'accept and assimilate' apart from 'rejecting and divorcing', Pakistan and Pakistanis can only do the latter.

 

[nForce]

i have seen enough
and the media propaganda can't be ignored either
besides i mentioned other reasons to

Clearly you weren't looking clearly enough. Almost all the elections in India till date have been fought on the basis of roti-kapda-makaan. There were cases of frantic sympathy voting, like after Rajiv or Indira's death, or loyality voting, like the case of CPM in Bengal. But that's about it.

 

[Syed_Adeel]

After reading this article i can only laugh and feel pity for the writer and poster.
The fact is that now a days there is s super unity found in the whole Pakistani nation and that is the reason that Independence day and defense days were celebrated in a way which has never been observed in last decades.
i urged you please stop posting useless posts of those who never visited Pakistan and doesnt know the current scenarios and public thoughts on grounds.

Much more than Pakistan India is divided on religious, ethnic and geographical aspects. please concentrate on your problems and let us handle our own issues.

fewer words are enough for a wise person. God Bless u.

 

[I S I]

So India is the only reason you are united??

Proudly so

As long as India exist on world map, we're united. Thank you India.

 

[Viper 94]

Pakistan is totally failed state, same old propaganda........

yeah the indian are very keen on this failed state thing

Clearly you weren't looking clearly enough. Almost all the elections in India till date have been fought on the basis of roti-kapda-makaan. There were cases of frantic sympathy voting, like after Rajiv or Indira's death, or loyality voting, like the case of CPM in Bengal. But that's about it.

are you effing serious
you just took zulfikar bhutto's slogan he was a pakistani politician not indian
which the bollywood made a movie off of

 

[nForce]

you just took zulfikar bhutto's slogan he was a pakistani politician not indian
which the bollywood made a movie off of

nothing to do with papa Bhutto, I assure you, no copy rights there.. Indira Gandhi's Garibi hatao was loosely based on it.

 

[Viper 94]

nothing to do with papa Bhutto, I assure you, no copy rights there.. Indira Gandhi's Garibi hatao was loosely based on it.

not nearly as catchy as bhutto's

 

[nForce]

not nearly as catchy as bhutto's

let's not compare 1.2 bil vs 200 mil ?

 

[Sheikh Rauf]

There are so many researches against iñdia... but it doesnt mean anything...
Bas aik baar chairo or daikho... kon united nahi hai...