The West is not coming to Australia’s rescue. We need new alliances (Australian Lowy Institute International Security Program Director)

[Indos]

I am not sure how China is able to threaten Australia security?

IMO Australia is insecure nation as they have very huge land, few people, rich country, and very rich natural resources. This condition make them feel that a big country can invade them some day. The reason they are supporting USA is also to make USA defends them if their country being attack by any big country.

In the past, they see Indonesia as a threat, and it is not something far from reality as during Soekarno period where Indonesia has very strong Armed Force, we send Russian made bombers and throw Indonesia garbage inside Australia. That is the sign that Indonesia can bomb Australia if we want it.

 

[Song Hong]

IMO Australia is insecure nation as they have very huge land, few people, rich country, and very rich natural resources. This condition make them feel that a big country can invade them some day. The reason they are supporting USA is also to make USA defends them if their country being attack by any big country.

In the past, they see Indonesia as a threat, and it is not something far from reality as during Soekarno period where Indonesia has very strong Armed Force, we send Russian made bombers and throw Indonesia garbage inside Australia. That is the sign that Indonesia can bomb Australia if we want it.

The biggest threat of Australia is the collapse of Indonesia, which certainly send hundred million refugees South into the 25 million white man land. Australia better pray Indonesia is doing well.

 

[MH.Yang]

Just a moment, please. Let me sort out the Australian logic.

Australians have always believed that China will threaten Australia's trade security. And China is their biggest trading partner.
In other words, Australia believes that China will threaten the trade security between China and Australia?

Well, the logic is very correct!

 

[Song Hong]

Just a moment, please. Let me sort out the Australian logic.

Australians have always believed that China will threaten Australia's trade security. And China is their biggest trading partner.
In other words, Australia believes that China will threaten the trade security between China and Australia?

Well, the logic is very correct!

My take is Australis is thinking of behalf of the Anglo Saxon race. Chinese is now no 1 enemy of Anglo Saxon evil plan to parasite the world.

 

[MH.Yang]

My take is Australis is thinking of behalf of the Anglo Saxon race. Chinese is now no 1 enemy of Anglo Saxon evil plan to parasite the world.

They don't represent Anglo Saxons, they represent Wall Street.
For Wall Street, if China continues to promote B&R and achieve universal prosperity all over the world. Then there must be enough poor people in the west to realize that their plight comes from the greed of oligarchs.
That's what Wall Street fears most.

As for the world hegemony of the USA, in fact, Wall Street does not care. In the USA, they are chaebols, after changing their nationality, they will still be chaebols. For these who have real power in the USA， the USA can actually give up.

 

[MH.Yang]

My take is Australis is thinking of behalf of the Anglo Saxon race. Chinese is now no 1 enemy of Anglo Saxon evil plan to parasite the world.

The country is the tool for the ruling group to rule the ruled group. Law is the embodiment of the collective will of the ruling group.
The ruling group of the USA is the American chaebol group represented by Wall Street. The president and his government elected by Americans every four years are just their tools. the ruled group is all Americans(including the Anglo Saxons) except the chaebol group.
The USA chaebol group cuts American society according to race, color, gender, etc. Let them fight with each other to maintain the stability of their rule. In fact, American society is cut according to wealth and capital. One day, the false impression forged by the American chaebol group will be pierced by the change of the world.

 

[S10]

Piss off your biggest customer by constantly calling it a threat and telling everyone you plan to confront it, then act all surprised and butthurt when that customer stops buying from you.

That's Australia in a nutshell.

 

[Song Hong]

The country is the tool for the ruling group to rule the ruled group. Law is the embodiment of the collective will of the ruling group.
The ruling group of the USA is the American chaebol group represented by Wall Street. The president and his government elected by Americans every four years are just their tools. the ruled group is all Americans(including the Anglo Saxons) except the chaebol group.
The USA chaebol group cuts American society according to race, color, gender, etc. Let them fight with each other to maintain the stability of their rule. In fact, American society is cut according to wealth and capital. One day, the false impression forged by the American chaebol group will be pierced by the change of the world.

Same thing happen in Singapore. Now there is an anti Chinese movement happening, in full sanctification of Islam and Hindus, while the elites enrich themselves scandalously.

 

[MH.Yang]

Same thing happen in Singapore. Now there is an anti Chinese movement happening, in full sanctification of Islam and Hindus, while the elites enrich themselves scandalously.

Yes, Malays, Chinese and Indians are poor bastard ruled by the elite, but they hate each other now. You will blame each other for all your difficulties, but forget to look up at the sneers of the elite.
You will not hate these elites who rule and control you, and you think they are just stupid, but you forget that stupid people can't become elites. You expect them to correct their mistakes, but you don't know that they are not the same kind of people as you.

 

[Song Hong]

Yes, Malays, Chinese and Indians are poor bastard ruled by the elite, but they hate each other now. You will blame each other for all your difficulties, but forget to look up at the sneers of the elite.
You will not hate these elites who rule and control you, and you think they are just stupid, but you forget that stupid people can't become elites. You expect them to correct their mistakes, but you don't know that they are not the same kind of people as you.

Talk about condescension and despise, one surely get fewer of them from other racial communities than from your boss. But anytime someone shout about workers discrimination, the entire establishment will immediately man-handle such people. Also people are brainwashed since young from Economics 101, and during adult by toxic "Chicken Soup". You family and friend will excommunicate you.

People are directed against one another, when government deliberately created LGBT, Islam activism, Hindu activism, Feminist activism. They are not going to unite against elites.

The only savior to this is CPC. CPC will show the world an entire new kind of good government that will blow you mind away.

 

[beijingwalker]

Australia 'underprepared' amid rise of China

 

[MH.Yang]

Talk about condescension and despise, one surely get fewer of them from other racial communities than from your boss. But anytime someone shout about workers discrimination, the entire establishment will immediately man-handle such people. Also people are brainwashed since young from Economics 101, and during adult by toxic "Chicken Soup". You family and friend will excommunicate you.

People are directed against one another, when government deliberately created LGBT, Islam activism, Hindu activism, Feminist activism. They are not going to unite against elites.

The only savior to this is CPC. CPC will show the world an entire new kind of good government that will blow you mind away.

The CCP will only tear off the disguise mask of this hypocritical world, and show its bloody, disgusting and cruel face to everyone. But the CCP cannot save the world, nor will it save the world. The poor bastard of all countries can only rely on themselves to save themselves.
The Soviet Union is dead. The CCP is not so stupid and will not be the next Soviet Union. China will lead the world to multipolarity, and the rest has to be done by each country itself.

 

[crankthatskunk]

It seems like even Australians have given up on Indians.
I thought they are going to list India as their defence partners of the future, considering both are
in Quad.
But the Australian had opted for Indonesia. Which means that all Australians are not barking mad.

 

[Indos]

Indonesia, Australia to elevate defense, security ties in Indo-Pacific push

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(From right to left, Indonesian Defense Minister Prabowo Subianto, Indonesian Foreign Minister Retno LP Marsudi, Australian Foreign Minister Marise Payne and Australian Defense Minister Peter Dutton attend a joint press statement following their two-plus-two meeting at the Foreign Ministry complex in Jakarta, on Sept. 9, 2021.(REUTERS/Indonesian Foreign Ministry)


Dian Septiari (The Jakarta Post)
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Indonesia and Australia announced on Thursday that they would expand military cooperation, including in education exchanges, and also bolster counterterror cooperation, as the two nations seek to deepen their security links amid an increasingly challenging Indo-Pacific environment.

Foreign and defense ministers of the two countries met for their first in-person meeting since the start of the COVID-19 pandemic, amid increased security risks brought about by the flaring conflict in Myanmar and contentious developments in Afghanistan.

Indonesia was the first leg of a four-country Indo-Pacific tour by Australian Foreign Minister Marise Payne and Defense Minister Peter Dutton, who are due to visit India, South Korea and the United States after concluding their two-plus-two talks in Jakarta.

Indonesia, Australia to elevate defense, security ties in Indo-Pacific push

Foreign and defense ministers of Indonesia and Australia met for their first in-person meeting since the start of the COVID-19 pandemic, seeking to deepen their security links amid an increasingly contested Indo-Pacific environment.

www.thejakartapost.com

 

[TechMan]

Australia needs to stop being US lackey and don't treat China as a threat which is just a boogeyman created by USA to sell weapons. Australia should look around, form an independent foreign policy and make new alliances based on reality.