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40 minute coverage about current situation in East-Turkestan:
Unrest in China's Xinjiang region | Uyghur American Association

Interesting article:
Uyghur American Association president calls on China to respect its founding principles, constitution and regional ethnic autonomy laws

On the occasion of the 65th anniversary of the founding of the People’s Republic of China (PRC) and the 59th anniversary of the establishment of the Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region (XUAR) on October 1, 2014, the Uyghur American Association calls on China to respect the rule of law in East Turkestan and to practice international legal standards in the region.

“The Chinese government must respect its founding principles, including freedom, justice, equality and self-determination for the Uyghur people,” said UAA president, Alim Seytoff in a statement. “The PRC was founded as a multiethnic and multicultural state in order to guarantee the rights of different ethnic groups, cultures, languages and religious beliefs, not to destroy them to create a homogenous state in the interest of the Han majority.”

Mr. Seytoff added: “To become a great and respectable country, and especially a country accepted by persecuted ethnic groups, such as the Uyghurs, Tibetans and Mongolians, China must respect its constitution, regional ethnic autonomy laws, and genuinely embrace multiculturalism. China’s imperialistic forced assimilation policies will not peacefully integrate the once sovereign and independent Uyghur people. State terrorism against a peace-loving people will not unify the state, but shatter it.”

“To show its goodwill towards the Uyghur people, China must immediately and unconditionally release all Uyghur prisoners of conscience, starting with Uyghur professor, Ilham Tohti and linguist, Abduweli Ayup, who have been sentenced in the weeks leading up to this anniversary.”

UAA is troubled that a May 23, 2014 announcement of a one-year anti-terror campaign in East Turkestan has resulted in human rights violations in East Turkestan.

Overseas media reports cited Xinjiang party chief, Zhang Chunxian as stating the anti-terror crackdown will employ “unconventional measures.” Since May 23, Chinese and overseas media have described a series of region wide mass trials, death sentences, and executions. UAA is concerned that due process of law has not been observed in these cases, given the speed and atmosphere of retribution in the region.

In addition, in a report dated September 8, 2014, AP raised the probability “that Chinese police are excessively using deadly force” during security operations aimed at Uyghurs. China’s lack of transparency in so-called terrorism cases and conflation between peaceful dissent and violence is also call for concern over the legality of the current crackdown.

The legal process concerning the case of Professor Ilham Tohti has been heavily criticized. Ilham Tohti was found guilty on charges of “separatism” and sentenced to life imprisonment on September 23, 2014 after a two-day trial, which Human Rights Watch called a “travesty of justice.” The September 17-18 trial and sentencing of Ilham Tohti was also condemned by the United States, the European Union, and Amnesty International, among others.

At the sixty-ninth session of the Working Group on Arbitrary Detention held between April 22 and May 1, 2014, a panel of five human rights experts rendered the opinion that Ilham Tohti’s deprivation of liberty since January 15, 2014 is arbitrary.

The Working Group cited China’s violation of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights in Mr. Tohti’s case—in particular, articles 9, 10, 11, 18, 19, 20 and 21.

In an article dated August 26, 2014, Radio Free Asia reported Uyghur linguist, Abduweli Ayup had been sentenced to 18 months in prison and fined approximately USD 13,000. Abduweli Ayup is being held in Urumchi’s Liu Dao Wan prison, a facility notorious for torture and forced confessions of Uyghur political prisoners.


Human Rights Day 2014: Uyghurs denied fundamental human rights as they live under deteriorating conditions. The Uyghur Human Rights Project (UHRP) is alarmed at the deterioration of human rights conditions for Uyghurs in East Turkestan during 2014.


The Uyghur Human Rights Project (UHRP) is alarmed at the deterioration of human rights conditions for Uyghurs in East Turkestan during 2014.

On the occasion of Human Rights Day 2014, UHRP calls on the Chinese government to remove ethnic policies that deny Uyghurs fundamental human rights and adhere to the international standards celebrated on Human Rights Day.

UHRP also calls on the international community to elevate the importance of human rights issues during meetings with Chinese officials, and in particular to raise concern over the Chinese government's use of security measures to commit human rights abuses against the Uyghur population of East Turkestan.

"Under the rule of Xi Jinping, Uyghurs have only experienced harsh repression. When it seems as if the Chinese authorities have done all they can to refuse Uyghurs basic liberties and freedoms, officials find a new way to exacerbate the tensions in the region," said UHRP director, Alim Seytoff in statement.

Mr. Seytoff added: "2014 has been a disastrous year for human rights in East Turkestan. China's answer to increased violence is to ratchet the pressure up on Uyghurs through an anti-terror campaign that only succeeds in terrorizing ordinary Uyghurs. The life sentence handed down to Ilham Tohti, a Uyghur who attempted to build interethnic dialogue, should give rise to the stark realization that China does not want or value the opinions of Uyghurs, especially as the state alters the physical and cultural landscape of East Turkestan in the name of 'development.'"

The annual December 10 commemoration of the adoption of The Universal Declaration of Human Rights (UDHR) by the United Nations General Assembly in 1948 is a reminder of the indivisibility of human rights and of government obligations to meet international human rights standards.

2014 has witnessed a number of disturbing human rights concerns in East Turkestan, including credible allegations of extrajudicial killings, politically-motivated sentences handed down to Uyghurs and further restrictions placed on traditional religious practices.

Deadly incidents in Kelpin County in April and Yarkent County in July have left a number of unanswered questions over the Chinese authorities’ role in the killings of Uyghur civilians. Accusations that Chinese security forces deployed excessive force and conducted extrajudicial killings have not been adequately addressed to date.

The allegations of extrajudicial killings of Uyghurs have occurred against the backdrop of increased security measures in the region.

On January 7, 2014, Chinese President, Xi Jinping announced a “major strategy shift” in East Turkestan, which reprioritized regional policies toward “social stability.” On January 17, 2014, Chinese state media detailed how regional officials plan to double the budget for the Xinjiang Public Security Bureau (PSB) following a string of incidents in 2013, many involving the use of lethal state force on Uyghurs.

The May 23, 2014 announcement of a one-year anti-terror campaign in East Turkestan has resulted in allegations of human rights violations in East Turkestan, particularly in light of Xinjiang party chief, Zhang Chunxian's comment stating the crackdown would employ “unconventional measures.”

Since May 23, Chinese and overseas media have described a series of region wide mass trials, death sentences, and executions. UHRP is concerned that due process of law has not been observed in these cases, given the speed and atmosphere of retribution in the region.

Only eight days after Xi Jinping's January statement, Uyghur academic, Ilham Tohti and several of his students were detained. Mr. Tohti, who worked as a professor at Beijing’s Minzu University (formerly Central Nationalities University), often questioned the efficacy of Chinese government policies targeting Uyghurs citing worsening economic, social and cultural conditions. He is also known for operating the Uighurbiz website, shutdown since his detention, which offered information on Uyghur social issues in Mandarin Chinese and employed as volunteers a number of his students.

Professor Tohti was found guilty on charges of separatism and sentenced to life imprisonment on September 23, 2014 after a two-day trial that began on September 17. In an article dated November 20, 2014, the Associated Press reported the Xinjiang High Court upheld the conviction of Ilham Tohti on charges of separatism. Human Rights Watch called the hearing "highly politicized" and the the Congressional Executive Commission on China (CECC) outlined a number of procedural violations during the case, as described by Ilham Tohti’s lawyers. Seven of his students went on trial on November 25. To date, the verdicts are not publicly available.

Uyghurs’ religious freedom has also significantly deteriorated. In May, UHRP reported on a notice posted in Shayar County in Aksu Prefecture detailing how informants could receive a reward for reporting on local residents exhibiting one or more of 53 proscribed behaviors. The notice specified for potential informants 18 religious activities, including customary religious practices. In a November 30 article Reuters reported on new regional regulations that broaden the curbs on religious life in East Turkestan that included a ban on religious practice "in government offices, public schools, businesses or institutions."

The universal rights to life (Article 3), freedom of speech (Preamble) and religious belief (Article 18) are all guaranteed under the UDHR.
Human Rights Day 2014: Uyghurs denied fundamental human rights as they live under deteriorating conditions | Uyghur American Association

They are very sweet :)
 
Short report:

40 minute coverage about current situation in East-Turkestan:
Unrest in China's Xinjiang region | Uyghur American Association

Interesting article:
Uyghur American Association president calls on China to respect its founding principles, constitution and regional ethnic autonomy laws

On the occasion of the 65th anniversary of the founding of the People’s Republic of China (PRC) and the 59th anniversary of the establishment of the Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region (XUAR) on October 1, 2014, the Uyghur American Association calls on China to respect the rule of law in East Turkestan and to practice international legal standards in the region.

“The Chinese government must respect its founding principles, including freedom, justice, equality and self-determination for the Uyghur people,” said UAA president, Alim Seytoff in a statement. “The PRC was founded as a multiethnic and multicultural state in order to guarantee the rights of different ethnic groups, cultures, languages and religious beliefs, not to destroy them to create a homogenous state in the interest of the Han majority.”

Mr. Seytoff added: “To become a great and respectable country, and especially a country accepted by persecuted ethnic groups, such as the Uyghurs, Tibetans and Mongolians, China must respect its constitution, regional ethnic autonomy laws, and genuinely embrace multiculturalism. China’s imperialistic forced assimilation policies will not peacefully integrate the once sovereign and independent Uyghur people. State terrorism against a peace-loving people will not unify the state, but shatter it.”

“To show its goodwill towards the Uyghur people, China must immediately and unconditionally release all Uyghur prisoners of conscience, starting with Uyghur professor, Ilham Tohti and linguist, Abduweli Ayup, who have been sentenced in the weeks leading up to this anniversary.”

UAA is troubled that a May 23, 2014 announcement of a one-year anti-terror campaign in East Turkestan has resulted in human rights violations in East Turkestan.

Overseas media reports cited Xinjiang party chief, Zhang Chunxian as stating the anti-terror crackdown will employ “unconventional measures.” Since May 23, Chinese and overseas media have described a series of region wide mass trials, death sentences, and executions. UAA is concerned that due process of law has not been observed in these cases, given the speed and atmosphere of retribution in the region.

In addition, in a report dated September 8, 2014, AP raised the probability “that Chinese police are excessively using deadly force” during security operations aimed at Uyghurs. China’s lack of transparency in so-called terrorism cases and conflation between peaceful dissent and violence is also call for concern over the legality of the current crackdown.

The legal process concerning the case of Professor Ilham Tohti has been heavily criticized. Ilham Tohti was found guilty on charges of “separatism” and sentenced to life imprisonment on September 23, 2014 after a two-day trial, which Human Rights Watch called a “travesty of justice.” The September 17-18 trial and sentencing of Ilham Tohti was also condemned by the United States, the European Union, and Amnesty International, among others.

At the sixty-ninth session of the Working Group on Arbitrary Detention held between April 22 and May 1, 2014, a panel of five human rights experts rendered the opinion that Ilham Tohti’s deprivation of liberty since January 15, 2014 is arbitrary.

The Working Group cited China’s violation of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights in Mr. Tohti’s case—in particular, articles 9, 10, 11, 18, 19, 20 and 21.

In an article dated August 26, 2014, Radio Free Asia reported Uyghur linguist, Abduweli Ayup had been sentenced to 18 months in prison and fined approximately USD 13,000. Abduweli Ayup is being held in Urumchi’s Liu Dao Wan prison, a facility notorious for torture and forced confessions of Uyghur political prisoners.


Human Rights Day 2014: Uyghurs denied fundamental human rights as they live under deteriorating conditions. The Uyghur Human Rights Project (UHRP) is alarmed at the deterioration of human rights conditions for Uyghurs in East Turkestan during 2014.


The Uyghur Human Rights Project (UHRP) is alarmed at the deterioration of human rights conditions for Uyghurs in East Turkestan during 2014.

On the occasion of Human Rights Day 2014, UHRP calls on the Chinese government to remove ethnic policies that deny Uyghurs fundamental human rights and adhere to the international standards celebrated on Human Rights Day.

UHRP also calls on the international community to elevate the importance of human rights issues during meetings with Chinese officials, and in particular to raise concern over the Chinese government's use of security measures to commit human rights abuses against the Uyghur population of East Turkestan.

"Under the rule of Xi Jinping, Uyghurs have only experienced harsh repression. When it seems as if the Chinese authorities have done all they can to refuse Uyghurs basic liberties and freedoms, officials find a new way to exacerbate the tensions in the region," said UHRP director, Alim Seytoff in statement.

Mr. Seytoff added: "2014 has been a disastrous year for human rights in East Turkestan. China's answer to increased violence is to ratchet the pressure up on Uyghurs through an anti-terror campaign that only succeeds in terrorizing ordinary Uyghurs. The life sentence handed down to Ilham Tohti, a Uyghur who attempted to build interethnic dialogue, should give rise to the stark realization that China does not want or value the opinions of Uyghurs, especially as the state alters the physical and cultural landscape of East Turkestan in the name of 'development.'"

The annual December 10 commemoration of the adoption of The Universal Declaration of Human Rights (UDHR) by the United Nations General Assembly in 1948 is a reminder of the indivisibility of human rights and of government obligations to meet international human rights standards.

2014 has witnessed a number of disturbing human rights concerns in East Turkestan, including credible allegations of extrajudicial killings, politically-motivated sentences handed down to Uyghurs and further restrictions placed on traditional religious practices.

Deadly incidents in Kelpin County in April and Yarkent County in July have left a number of unanswered questions over the Chinese authorities’ role in the killings of Uyghur civilians. Accusations that Chinese security forces deployed excessive force and conducted extrajudicial killings have not been adequately addressed to date.

The allegations of extrajudicial killings of Uyghurs have occurred against the backdrop of increased security measures in the region.

On January 7, 2014, Chinese President, Xi Jinping announced a “major strategy shift” in East Turkestan, which reprioritized regional policies toward “social stability.” On January 17, 2014, Chinese state media detailed how regional officials plan to double the budget for the Xinjiang Public Security Bureau (PSB) following a string of incidents in 2013, many involving the use of lethal state force on Uyghurs.

The May 23, 2014 announcement of a one-year anti-terror campaign in East Turkestan has resulted in allegations of human rights violations in East Turkestan, particularly in light of Xinjiang party chief, Zhang Chunxian's comment stating the crackdown would employ “unconventional measures.”

Since May 23, Chinese and overseas media have described a series of region wide mass trials, death sentences, and executions. UHRP is concerned that due process of law has not been observed in these cases, given the speed and atmosphere of retribution in the region.

Only eight days after Xi Jinping's January statement, Uyghur academic, Ilham Tohti and several of his students were detained. Mr. Tohti, who worked as a professor at Beijing’s Minzu University (formerly Central Nationalities University), often questioned the efficacy of Chinese government policies targeting Uyghurs citing worsening economic, social and cultural conditions. He is also known for operating the Uighurbiz website, shutdown since his detention, which offered information on Uyghur social issues in Mandarin Chinese and employed as volunteers a number of his students.

Professor Tohti was found guilty on charges of separatism and sentenced to life imprisonment on September 23, 2014 after a two-day trial that began on September 17. In an article dated November 20, 2014, the Associated Press reported the Xinjiang High Court upheld the conviction of Ilham Tohti on charges of separatism. Human Rights Watch called the hearing "highly politicized" and the the Congressional Executive Commission on China (CECC) outlined a number of procedural violations during the case, as described by Ilham Tohti’s lawyers. Seven of his students went on trial on November 25. To date, the verdicts are not publicly available.

Uyghurs’ religious freedom has also significantly deteriorated. In May, UHRP reported on a notice posted in Shayar County in Aksu Prefecture detailing how informants could receive a reward for reporting on local residents exhibiting one or more of 53 proscribed behaviors. The notice specified for potential informants 18 religious activities, including customary religious practices. In a November 30 article Reuters reported on new regional regulations that broaden the curbs on religious life in East Turkestan that included a ban on religious practice "in government offices, public schools, businesses or institutions."

The universal rights to life (Article 3), freedom of speech (Preamble) and religious belief (Article 18) are all guaranteed under the UDHR.
Human Rights Day 2014: Uyghurs denied fundamental human rights as they live under deteriorating conditions | Uyghur American Association


They are very sweet :)
very sweet, bro. wish them all the best :)
But can you see the fear among the older people and some of the kids? covering their faces when there is a camera around? Even when they know they are in another country? that fear is real. Most probably because the commies will deal with these people's relatives/family once their identity has been found out.
 
Turkey Chimes in on Uyghur Human Smuggling Case
Plus, Zhang Miao, securing the North Korean border, and China’s nuclear industry. Friday China links.

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By Shannon Tiezzi
January 17, 2015
Time for this week’s China links:

First, there are two updates on my previous story about Turkish citizens being arrested for allegedly planning to help Chinese Uyghurs illegally leave China to join terror groups in Syria and elsewhere. First, as The New York Times reports, Turkey’s Foreign Ministry has confirmed that ten of its citizens were arrested in Shanghai for trying to smuggle Uyghurs out of the country. However, Turkey’s statement failed to mention “any of the terrorism-related charges” raised by Global Times’ initial report. As I mentioned in my original piece, a Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesperson who addressed the reports earlier this week also ignored the terrorism angle. That raises questions over whether the Turkish group truly intended to funnel Uyghurs to terrorist groups, or whether this was a case of would-be refugees — which would make the issue far more serious for China-Turkey relations.

Meanwhile, China Daily reports that China will “strengthen law enforcement cooperation with Turkey to combat terrorist suspects from the Xinjiang Uyghur autonomous region entering the Eurasian country illegally.” As a Chinese official told the newspaper, China “will work closely with [Turkish authorities] to investigate Xinjiang suspects who enter Turkey illegally.” China also hopes to increase cooperation with Turkish police to prevent “cross-border criminal gangs who help Xinjiang terrorists to cross China’s borders illegally and assist them in obtaining fake Turkish passports.”

In other news, many China watchers have likely already seen this first-person narrative from Die Zeit, which has been making the rounds on social media with the hashtag #freemiao. In the piece, German reporter Angela Köckritz recounts her experiences with the Chinese domestic security apparatus after her Chinese assistant, Zhang Miao, is taken into custody. It’s a fascinating story of one journalist’s encounter with China’s security forces, and underscores just how seriously Beijing takes the Hong Kong protests.

As an addendum to the story, Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Hong Lei officially responded to a question about Zhang Miao back on October 13. His response, in full:

As far as I have learned, the person you mentioned is suspected of committing provocative activities and creating troubles. She did not acquire the post as the Chinese employee of the German press in Beijing in accordance with relevant regulation of China. Chinese authorities concerned are dealing with the case as what the law and regulation prescribe. The person in your question is a Chinese citizen. She should observe her obligations as a Chinese citizen and cooperate with relevant investigation by the Chinese public security organ.

In the wake of the murder of four Chinese citizens by a North Korean deserter late last year, Reuters reports that China is organizing civilian militias to help patrol the border. According to the plan, every ten households along the border will have their own border security group to help patrol for potential trouble. In recent years there have been several incidents of North Koreans sneaking across the border and committing crimes in China, sparking concern in Beijing that Pyongyang cannot adequately control its border. “The fact that North Koreans are running over the border to China shows that North Korea’s regulation of the border is seriously problematic,” Zhang Liangui of China’s Central Party School told Reuters.

Finally, Xi Jinping gave China’s nuclear power industry his personal seal of approval this week, as Xinhua reports. “China will sharpen the competitive edge of its nuclear industry,” Xinhua paraphrased Xi as saying. Premier Li Keqiang also chimed in, saying that “we will work hard to build the country into a powerful nuclear industry player” while also keeping “a close eye” on safety issues. For more on China’s nuclear power push, see my previous piece for China Power.
 
China forces imams to dance in street

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China has forced the imams of Xinjiang to dance in the street, and swear to an oath that they will not teach religion to children as well telling them that prayer is harmful to the soul.

World Bulletin / News Desk

In China, imams are being forced to dans, at the same time being made to make an oath to keep children away from religion - public servants are forced to brandish the slogan that "our income comes from the CKP not from Allah".

The imams of the mosques in the Xinjiang (East Turkestan) have been forerced to gather in a square dancing en masse. State Chinese news have said that in the name of "civilization" the imams have been forced to dance in the town square. At the same time they were forced to chant out slogans such as 'peace of the country gives peace to the soul". Many of the imams were forcibly given Chinese flags - the same demonstration also included university students.

During the speeches, young people were told to stay away from mosques, and that the prayer was harmful to ones health and instead were encouraged to dance. Female teachers were instructed to teach children to stay away from religious education and made to swear an oath that they will keep children away from religion.

China forces imams to dance in street | Asia-Pasific | Worldbulletin News

@Horus
 
China forces imams to dance in street

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China has forced the imams of Xinjiang to dance in the street, and swear to an oath that they will not teach religion to children as well telling them that prayer is harmful to the soul.

World Bulletin / News Desk

In China, imams are being forced to dans, at the same time being made to make an oath to keep children away from religion - public servants are forced to brandish the slogan that "our income comes from the CKP not from Allah".

The imams of the mosques in the Xinjiang (East Turkestan) have been forerced to gather in a square dancing en masse. State Chinese news have said that in the name of "civilization" the imams have been forced to dance in the town square. At the same time they were forced to chant out slogans such as 'peace of the country gives peace to the soul". Many of the imams were forcibly given Chinese flags - the same demonstration also included university students.

During the speeches, young people were told to stay away from mosques, and that the prayer was harmful to ones health and instead were encouraged to dance. Female teachers were instructed to teach children to stay away from religious education and made to swear an oath that they will keep children away from religion.

China forces imams to dance in street | Asia-Pasific | Worldbulletin News

@Horus
Are they serious with this? Why such a humiliation? Actions like this will only create more violance.
 
Are they serious with this? Why such a humiliation? Actions like this will only create more violance.
it is true unfortunately, just look at that writing, if this isn't true, I don't know what is.

BTW, can you translate this for me? I speak four different languages, but gibberish isn't one of them.

One thing for you to consider, they may be "turkish," but they grew up in a semi Chinese culture, they are not like you, just like an overseas Chinese may share similarities to Chinese culture and lifestyle, but we are not exactly the same.

What would seem "demeaning" to you, is normal in China, everybody dance and have social gatherings. As to the "warnings," it's hard for me to explain it to you, you can take it however you like.
 
it is true unfortunately, just look at that writing, if this isn't true, I don't know what is.

BTW, can you translate this for me? I speak four different languages, but gibberish isn't one of them.

One thing for you to consider, they may be "turkish," but they grew up in a semi Chinese culture, they are not like you, just like an overseas Chinese may share similarities to Chinese culture and lifestyle, but we are not exactly the same.

What would seem "demeaning" to you, is normal in China, everybody dance and have social gatherings. As to the "warnings," it's hard for me to explain it to you, you can take it however you like.
So this is normal to you, its just normal happy dancing right? You might not believe it but the outside world knows exactly whats going on there, your propaganda has no power here.
 
So this is normal to you, its just normal happy dancing right? You might not believe it but the outside world knows exactly whats going on there, your propaganda has no power here.
You live in Switzerland, you should have some cash, go to any Chinese city, at about 8-10 am and see if I am lying about people either dancing or play games, be it government building or other place of work, now I am not saying they all do dance, but a lot of them do.

This is easily verifiable, you can ask people who has lived in China.

I don't need to convince you dude, whether you believe me or not is irrelevant, I'm just stating what I know and think, if you don't want that, don't be on a forum.
 
Ther is difference between to dance and make them to dance:-).
 
Ther is difference between to dance and make them to dance:-).
I can't believe the author of this article didn't ps some PLA soldier shooting at their feet while they danced.

The dancing isn't well liked by some, but others like it, you are an imam doesn't mean you don't want to dance, but since they are on the government's pay check then they need to do the same thing as the other 80 something million government employees do.
 
China forces imams to dance in street

View attachment 191646

China has forced the imams of Xinjiang to dance in the street, and swear to an oath that they will not teach religion to children as well telling them that prayer is harmful to the soul.

World Bulletin / News Desk

In China, imams are being forced to dans, at the same time being made to make an oath to keep children away from religion - public servants are forced to brandish the slogan that "our income comes from the CKP not from Allah".

The imams of the mosques in the Xinjiang (East Turkestan) have been forerced to gather in a square dancing en masse. State Chinese news have said that in the name of "civilization" the imams have been forced to dance in the town square. At the same time they were forced to chant out slogans such as 'peace of the country gives peace to the soul". Many of the imams were forcibly given Chinese flags - the same demonstration also included university students.

During the speeches, young people were told to stay away from mosques, and that the prayer was harmful to ones health and instead were encouraged to dance. Female teachers were instructed to teach children to stay away from religious education and made to swear an oath that they will keep children away from religion.

China forces imams to dance in street | Asia-Pasific | Worldbulletin News

@Horus
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typical Chinese daily activities.

you got to be kidding me saying this is 'forced'.
 
You live in Switzerland, you should have some cash, go to any Chinese city, at about 8-10 am and see if I am lying about people either dancing or play games, be it government building or other place of work, now I am not saying they all do dance, but a lot of them do.

This is easily verifiable, you can ask people who has lived in China.

I don't need to convince you dude, whether you believe me or not is irrelevant, I'm just stating what I know and think, if you don't want that, don't be on a forum.
I know there are people in China dancing in Public Parks, but the thing above is different, why are you trying to apologize it, its ridiculous.
 
I know there are people in China dancing in Public Parks, but the thing above is different, why are you trying to apologize it, its ridiculous.
lol, at least I didn't wrongly accuse you of not knowing what you are talking about.
 
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