the urdu language script learning thread

[Levina]

what do I know !

Oh! You cant read it?
I assumed otherwise.
Anyways..thanks.

 

[Leader]

Oh! You cants read it?
I assumed otherwise.
Anyways..thanks.

I said mujhay kia pata kia kehtay hain, mien nay konsa linguistics mien masters kia haiy.. awanee huh

 

[Anuj Tagra]

leter on may be you started reading the history from hinduvata books who paint every single Muslim ruler as entirely evil . I dont think muslim rulers were any different than any other rulers in past as we judge past incident based on our current modern concept of right or wrong. There was time when slavery was considered norm and marriages at very early age of 15/16 were common and they seem wrong concept in modern world

yeah except that u died because u wont change your faith,otherwise everything was the same

I dont know what sources you are reading. I am not denying that Muslim rulers were not completely saint but they were not as evil as pained by most Hindu historian for their political agenda of Hindu nationalism which is based on hatred for anything Muslims but still we have some sane voices in your country exposing the lies and exaggeration

[video]

I want Ram Puniyani's time machine,please

 

[WAJsal]

But in Arabic/Urdu it is written as تيبو (if I am not wrong @Leader).

Incorrect, starts with a 'Tay'... ٹیپو

 

[Anuj Tagra]

aaur agar jindgahi main rajia se shadi howe tu uss ka naam bigaar dein ghey
but ..i dont know why they dont call their zee tv as jee tv

why is that that zee word cannot be pronounced by their tongue ? even if they dont have thsi alphabet it can be learn hwo to pronounce z word correct instaed of replacing it with G or J

I am sure there are more people in India who can pronounce Z today than the whole population of pakistan,it is all about learning it in school.Now they learn Z in english and hence they can say,but even i love saying J instead of Z.

Probably... The pronounciation is different even when you are speaking the same words.. Also i wonder why Indians think Pakistanis speak like hyderabadis or ppl from UP..

I have heard Pak Punjabis speak and like all other punjabis,they speak all languages in Panjabi.

Pak Urdu is not "punjabised"... Even the punjabis speak the same Urdu but the rural accent would be different in any case., the same goes for all ethnic groups of Pakistan...

Punjab itself has different dialects,languages etx.. Seriki is different from Punjabi.., potohari is different from Punjabi,hazarwals have a different language... Etc.. Indians can't understand the diversity we have in Punjab alone ...and not just linguistically but ethnically Aswell.

Ethnic diversity is a big myth,barring Pashtuns & Baloch,there is not much diversity.

 

[Zibago]

Gurmukhi & devnagri are similar

Shahmukhi aint

I am sure there are more people in India who can pronounce Z today than the whole population of pakistan,it is all about learning it in school.Now they learn Z in english and hence they can say,but even i love saying J instead of Z.



I have heard Pak Punjabis speak and like all other punjabis,they speak all languages in Panjabi.



Ethnic diversity is a big myth,barring Pashtuns & Baloch,there is not much diversity.

So the uighyurs,baltis,sheena,kashmiri,sindhi,marawari,burmans,bengalis,sindhis,gujratis,barhuis never existed?

 

[asad71]

Some notes on Quam-i-Tarana
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Most think it is Urdu because the words came into use post-facto the national anthem.

Same language different literary registers, some different loan words.


So your roots are in Hyderabad! Nice

1.Beside Jagannath Azad, Jinnah had elevated another Hindu. Jagannath Modol was from SC and a Bengali. Jinnah had appointed him the minister for law and parliamentary affairs in the British Indian cabinet under Nehru in the ML quota. Late he appointed him to preside over the CA that swore in Jinnah into the office of GG.

2. As kids in E Bengal we used sing another national anthem which was quite easy for Urdu as well as Bengali speaking people. This was not considered when adopting the Persianized anthem which is beautiful and meaningful - if you know the meaning. But I doubt if the majority of Pakistani kids understand what they are singing.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

I am sure there are more people in India who can pronounce Z today than the whole population of pakistan,it is all about learning it in school.Now they learn Z in english and hence they can say,but even i love saying J instead of Z

In sure you are also among those Urdudans.

I have heard Pak Punjabis speak and like all other punjabis,they speak all languages in Panjabi.

Im sure...

Ethnic diversity is a big myth,barring Pashtuns & Baloch,there is not much diversity.

56 languages are spoken in Pak... So don't fukin tell me about the diversity of my own country.

 

[Parul]

@asad71 Are you proficient in Urdu?

 

[asad71]

@asad71 Are you proficient in Urdu?

I manage. Had to learn for "retention" in PA. Why do you ask?

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

1.Beside Jagannath Azad, Jinnah had elevated another Hindu. Jagannath Modol was from SC and a Bengali. Jinnah had appointed him the minister for law and parliamentary affairs in the British Indian cabinet under Nehru in the ML quota. Late he appointed him to preside over the CA that swore in Jinnah into the office of GG.

2. As kids in E Bengal we used sing another national anthem which was quite easy for Urdu as well as Bengali speaking people. This was not considered when adopting the Persianized anthem which is beautiful and meaningful - if you know the meaning. But I doubt if the majority of Pakistani kids understand what they are singing.

We do understand it ... It's not rocket science ...

 

[Anuj Tagra]

In sure you are also among those Urdudans.


Im sure...


56 languages are spoken in Pak... So don't fukin tell me about the diversity of my own country.

I am a punjabi and my grandpa was a scholar in urdu,we are equal at ease in any language,since we can manage sanskrit as well as farsi,even though we love talking only in our village punjabi.

56 and all is too much man,If i start counting like this there will be 5600 dialects in India.

Shahmukhi aint


So the uighyurs,baltis,sheena,kashmiri,sindhi,marawari,burmans,bengalis,sindhis,gujratis,barhuis never existed?

How many of those people are there dude? and How many of those languages have a province and government under them?

Is there a province where the official language is bengali or gujrati?

How many Uyghur/Balti/Sheena are there? So minsicule.

Shahmukhi is just the nastaliq script,it is not a new language.we guys call it the muslim script as it is right to left.

 

[Levina]

Incorrect, starts with a 'Tay'... ٹیپو

I was so proud of my Arabic.

I said mujhay kia pata kia kehtay hain, mien nay konsa linguistics mien masters kia haiy.. awanee huh

Mazak tha???

 

[Raja.Pakistani]

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I want Ram Puniyani's time machine,please

You can borrow the time machine of those hinduvata historian who witnessed every single conversion in 7th century and motive behind it and not only that but they also witnessed the intention of inavders behind destruction of every single temple. Read what time machine or research of Richard Eaton say

‘It’s a myth that Muslim rulers destroyed thousands of temples’ | Tehelka - Investigations, Latest News, Politics, Analysis, Blogs, Culture, Photos, Videos, Podcasts

yeah except that u died because u wont change your faith,otherwise everything was the same

Yea sure Hindu people was given only two option by Muslim rulers..to die or to accept Islam
Since Hindus preferred to die instead of accepting Islam thats why there exist no Hindus and its false that 827,578,868 Hindus still reside in India

 

[rubyjackass]

No No, my great grandfather was merely employed by the Nizam of Hyderabad. He wasn't actually from there.

He was from North-west part of Pakistani Punjab.

Khushab District - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Well nobody in Hyderabad is actually from Hyderabad. Except may be for a few thousand in the fort area or so, almost everyone is a migrant If not the Nizams, the Qutub Shahis brought them to populate the city.

Let me try to help with urdu script.

This is the urdu alphabet:

ا This is alif. It sounds close to the letter 'a' in english
ب This bay. It sounds close to the letter 'b'
پ This is pay. It sounds close to the letter 'p'
ت This is tay. It sounds close to the letter 't'
ث This is say. It sounds close to the letter 's'
ج This is jeem. It sounds close to the letter 'j'
چ This is chay. It sounds close to the letter 'c'
ح This is hay. It sounds close to the letter 'h'
خ This is khay. It sounds close to 'kh' like in khaki
د This is daal. It sounds close to 'da'
ذ This is zaal. It sounds close to 'z'
ر This is ray. It sounds close to 'r'
ز This is zay. It sounds close to 'z' as well
‍‍س This is seen. It sounds close to 's' as well
ش This is sheen. It sounds close to 'sh'
ص This is sawad. It sounds close to 'saw'
ض This is zawad. It sounds close to 'za'
ط This is tou. It sounds close to 't'
ظ This is zou. It sounds close to 'z'
ع This is aien. It sounds close to 'ai'
غ This is gian. It sounds close to 'gu'
ف This is fay. It sounds close to 'f'
ق This is kaf. It sounds close to 'k'
ک This is kaf as well with similar sound
گ This is gaf. It sounds close to 'g'
ل This is lam. It sounds close to 'l'
م This is meme. It sounds close to 'm'
ن This is noon. It sounds close to 'n'
و This is wow. It sounds close to 'w'
ه This is hay. It is similar to the previous hay above.
ی This is yay. It sounds close to 'y'

Thank you very much @NP-complete

What about other vowels? I see only these two vowels in the list.
ا This is alif. It sounds close to the letter 'a' in english
ع This is aien. It sounds close to 'ai'

How is one supposed to differentiate between the sound of alef in Urdu words 'at', 'india', 'urdu'? Someone like me may pronounce Urdu as Ardu.

I have heard Pak Punjabis speak and like all other punjabis,they speak all languages in Panjabi.

I know what you mean