The Unthinkable happens: Arabs start losing their religious zeal

[ArabianEmpires&Caliphates]

Religious or not I think their culture encourage laziness and big talking over hard work so I don't think this will make a big difference.

You think that one of the most accomplished, influential and most ancient civilizations was/is defined by some imaginary laziness while the Arab geography and its challenges alone is a testament of the Arab genius, ingeniutiy and survival spirit?

What is a few recent struggles compared to a historical record (recorded) that predates any other?

I suggest to deal with your inferiority complex. Strange behavior from a Sri Lankan given the cordial ancient ties to the Arab world. To this day Arab countries host a large number of Sri Lankans, not to forget the Sri Lankan Moors who are the result of local culture fusioning with Arab one.

 

[Juggernaut_Flat_Plane_V8]

India is a mob masquerading as a Nation

But still endures on as much as a nation as its one apparently cultivated neighbour

 

[El Sidd]

But still endures on as much as a nation as its one apparently cultivated neighbour

praise Bangladesh on your own time

 

[Juggernaut_Flat_Plane_V8]

praise Bangladesh on your own time

Bangladesh journey since 1971 has been glorious ...last Friday I did a bunch of shopping at H&M's and 90 percent of the products were from Bangladesh

 

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Arabs are losing faith in religious parties and leaders
Religious zeal is also falling in the region, particularly among the young



“NO TO RELIGION or sect,” cry the protesters in Iraq. “No to Islam, no to Christianity, revolt for the nation,” echo those in Lebanon. Across the Arab world people are turning against religious political parties and the clerics who helped bring them to power. Many appear to be giving up on Islam, too.

These trends are reflected in new data from Arab Barometer, a pollster that surveys Arab countries. Across the region the share of people expressing much trust in political parties, most of which have a religious tint, has fallen by well over a third since 2011, to 15%. (The share of Iraqis who say they do not trust parties at all rose from 51% to 78%.) The decline in trust for Islamist parties is similarly dramatic, falling from 35% in 2013, when the question was first widely asked, to 20% in 2018

Arabs are losing faith in religious parties and leaders

These surveys dont prove anything..

 

[surge]

Islam is not a property of X or Y, my post was merely a reaction to the laughable rhetoric of “Arabs do not matter in relation to Islam” etc. inferiority ridden rhetoric.

In any case what Arabs believe in or not, is our own business in the first place. Islam is not our sole native religion contrary to popular belief.

Arabs/Asians/white/black they DOES NOT matter!!! you are mixing places with people bro. The only important place in Islam is makkah and madina and any muslim can rule them not just arabs. "No people have contributed and shaped Islam more than Arabs either".. are you kidding me?? you are the sole butchers of the one and only Islamic caliphate. you may speak arabic but you may be confuse about the idea. Remember, we dont pray to kabba we pray TOWARDS kabba even if it didnt exits there. and btw your muslim ancestor also destroyed it and not only that much much worse

 

[Juggernaut_Flat_Plane_V8]

Arabs/Asians/white/black they DOES NOT matter!!! you are mixing places with people bro. The only important place in Islam is makkah and madina and any muslim can rule them not just arabs. "No people have contributed and shaped Islam more than Arabs either".. are you kidding me?? you are the sole butchers of the one and only Islamic caliphate. you may speak arabic but you may be confuse about the idea. Remember, we dont pray to kabba we pray TOWARDS kabba even if it didnt exits there. and btw your muslim ancestor also destroyed it and not only that much much worse

You missed an important part of his observation....Islam is not the sole native religion of the Arabs...extend him some courtesy in conversation

 

[H. Dawary]

This is completely natural... Ideolgies will lay dormant within societies until there is a need for it to re-surface. For example, many Afghans blame Pakistan for Taliban, however the religiosity of Afghanistan was something that was boune to happen, Pakistan simply sped up the process.

Iran underwent an Islamic revolution, and now there is a need for democracy, and even if they obtain it, after a certain time there will then be a need for another Islamic Republic.

India itself is also going through this transition through the RSS hinduvata, and after some time, libertarian/democractic sentiments will re-surface, unless it is pervented by war (which is the case with Iran).

Pakistan will also go through this transition... In time.

The Arabs are only experiencing their waves of such sentiments... for some time, until the evnetual shift back to Islam.

Israel will probably also go through its transition as well into a Jewish/Zionisnistic supremacy.

 

[Juggernaut_Flat_Plane_V8]

This is completely natural... Ideolgies will lay dormant within societies until there is a need for it to re-surface. For example, many Afghans blame Pakistan for Taliban, however the religiosity of Afghanistan was something that was boune to happen, Pakistan simply sped up the process.

Iran underwent an Islamic revolution, and now there is a need for democracy, and even if they obtain it, after a certain time there will then be a need for another Islamic Republic.

India itself is also going through this transition through the RSS hinduvata, and after some time, libertarian/democractic sentiments will re-surface, unless it is pervented by war (which is the case with Iran).

Pakistan will also go through this transition... In time.

The Arabs are only experiencing their waves of such sentiments... for some time, until the evnetual shift back to Islam.

Israel will probably also go through its transition as well into a Jewish/Zionisnistic supremacy.

It is very rare that genius surfaces here on PDF...but when it does , it does with full volcanic ferocity ..This post was one of those times ...sincerely thank you

 

[H. Dawary]

It is very rare that genius surfaces here on PDF...but when it does , it does with full volcanic ferocity ..This post was one of those times ...sincerely thank you

I wish I were a genius or wise my friend, you in all likelihood know way more than me. But I do appreciate the compliment, thank you.

 

[Rafi]

Nope ...Hindus as a people have a right to exist and pursue safety,security and prosperity ...The Hindu doesnot either need to believe in his own gods or foreign gods in order to feel kinship to his group ...doesn't matter whether Hindus were slaves or rulers , does not matter whether Hindus Hindus have a glorious history or the mist wretched history, Hindus have a right to exist and secure a homeland...


PS: A lot of people were fans of Hitler during his rise...how an impoverished beggar rose to be the leader of the world's most advanced country and then take it to even loftier technological heights was the stuff of legends among his contemporaries ...only after Americans and Russians liberated the Jewish death camps,did the world come to know about the horrors of Nazism

Fine, don't give a flying fck about India, your country your rules.

I am happy with my country and its beautiful people and this beautiful land.

 

[macnurv]

Still not fast enough.

 

[libertad]

This is great news IMO. Without Religion there is no sectarianism. After religion, the next scourge of mankind will be nationalism which will fall by the wayside with the rise of globalisation.

 

[LeGenD]

no worries we Pakistanis will cover the shortfall
we re more Arab than the Arabs and more Persians than the Persians.

Hahahaha

 

[Lincoln]

Islam is not a property of X or Y, my post was merely a reaction to the laughable rhetoric of “Arabs do not matter in relation to Islam” etc. inferiority ridden rhetoric.

In any case what Arabs believe in or not, is our own business in the first place. Islam is not our sole native religion contrary to popular belief.

Contrary to popular belief, there is no God chosen race in Islam. Allah will propagate his religion through whom he wills.

First, it was the Arabs, then it was the Africans and Egyptians, then the Turks, then the Mongols. Rest assured.


Many of modern day Turks are non religious people, but Turkey still is one of the most important countries for Islam in the modern day and age.

Meanwhile, Saudi Arabia, despite having a highly % of religious people, it is one which has damaged Islamic interests in the region the most.

Isn't it funny how God works and has his ways?

This is completely natural... Ideolgies will lay dormant within societies until there is a need for it to re-surface. For example, many Afghans blame Pakistan for Taliban, however the religiosity of Afghanistan was something that was boune to happen, Pakistan simply sped up the process.

Iran underwent an Islamic revolution, and now there is a need for democracy, and even if they obtain it, after a certain time there will then be a need for another Islamic Republic.

India itself is also going through this transition through the RSS hinduvata, and after some time, libertarian/democractic sentiments will re-surface, unless it is pervented by war (which is the case with Iran).

Pakistan will also go through this transition... In time.

The Arabs are only experiencing their waves of such sentiments... for some time, until the evnetual shift back to Islam.

Israel will probably also go through its transition as well into a Jewish/Zionisnistic supremacy.

We have undergone this transition under Zia, the road is now towards secularism, albeit a very, very long one.