The unreasonable criticism on Pakistan's defense budget

[American Pakistani]

Indian GDP in 2019 is $2.9 trillion. Which is why, if you use the SIPRI database, India's military expenditure is 2.4% and Pakistan's is 4.0%

A basic maths course would not be amiss.

A basic comprehension skill would not be amiss.

Read from your fav anti Pakistan newspaper.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dawn.com/news/amp/1563187

 

[WarKa DaNG]

Better to spend money on procurement of new weapons rather than going this money to some offshore accounts

 

[Sunny4pak]

Today Punjab Govt. Allocated PK Rs. 389 Billion for Education, Now the critics may wait and see the other provincial budgets along with Federal Edu. Budget and then compare with Defence Budget;
For instance, if we add the following provincial budgets of last year with the current we will get the following figures;

Punjab: 389 Billion PKR
Sindh: 239
KPK: 143
Balochistan: 60
HEC: 28
Federal: 77

Grand Total: 936

Note: Other Than Punjab all other figures are from last year budget.

@Tipu7 @Dalit @Death Adder @Rafi @StormBreaker

 

[Tipu7]

Today Punjab Govt. Allocated PK Rs. 389 Billion for Education, Now the critics may wait and see the other provincial budgets along with Federal Edu. Budget and then compare with Defence Budget;
For instance, if we add the following provincial budgets of last year with the current we will get the following figures;

Punjab: 389 Billion PKR
Sindh: 239
KPK: 143
Balochistan: 60
HEC: 28
Federal: 77

Grand Total: 936

Note: Other Than Punjab all other figures are from last year budget.

@Tipu7 @Dalit @Death Adder @Rafi @StormBreaker

That's roughly $5.7 Billion. We need to spend more on education as majority of our educated people don't have basic sense of understanding the budget distribution.

 

[StormBreaker]

That's roughly $5.7 Billion.

Imagine what a competent minister can do with all such money...

 

[Robbie]

A basic comprehension skill would not be amiss.

Read from your fav anti Pakistan newspaper.
View attachment 641837

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dawn.com/news/amp/1563187

You compare apples to apples. That's a basic in comprehension skills.

If you are using Pakistani national budgets to compute % expenditure, then the same has to be used for India, which is 1.8% (link given in earlier posts)

If you are not using going to use Indian national budget as a source then the same cannot be used for Pakistan in which case SIPRI estimates that India spends 2.4% and Pakistan spends 4.0%.

You cannot choose SIPRI as the source for India and Pakistani national budget as the source for Pakistan.

 

[VCheng]

It has in PKR, in percentage terms well above the rate of GDP growth for any year, especially the current year and projected next year. So it’s still inexplicably high for an increase in expenditure. People are right to ask not so much why such a huge increase is happening, but how given the circumstances? That’s not even mentioning the IMF programme.

It took me a while to go through such impassioned posts on such a long thread, but please allow me to point out your relevant question with just an observation. These are all allocated estimates, and can be amended in light of contingencies on a running basis. For example, it may be instructive to look at the amounts allocated and actually spent on various heads for, say, the last five years.

Please note that I am NOT making any comments or judgement on the size of the defense budget or its appropriateness. That is a decision every sovereign country makes for itself in view of its own national interests. All I am pointing out is that the rate of increase that you point out is just an estimated allocation. The actual figure may be higher or lower depending on the security challenges during the budgeted year.

 

[nahtanbob]

My 2 cents worth View attachment 641774

the only problem with your graph is that it ignore hidden costs - conscription, land acquisition (in case of some countries)

 

[American Pakistani]

You compare apples to apples. That's a basic in comprehension skills.

If you are using Pakistani national budgets to compute % expenditure, then the same has to be used for India, which is 1.8% (link given in earlier posts)

If you are not using going to use Indian national budget as a source then the same cannot be used for Pakistan in which case SIPRI estimates that India spends 2.4% and Pakistan spends 4.0%.

You cannot choose SIPRI as the source for India and Pakistani national budget as the source for Pakistan.

How about I use both India and Pakistan as same source? Because even dawn is quoting sipri.

 

[fatman17]

Actually much more. These are operating costs. capitalization costs are extra for everyone, also pensions for retd and civilians employees are additional. Basically this graph is correct when operating costs are compared. Thanks for your comments.

the only problem with your graph is that it ignore hidden costs - conscription, land acquisition (in case of some countries)

 

[ziaulislam]

Here is another POV.. he thinks outlays should also be calculated as %age of the revenues. A huge deficit makes expenditure based analysis misleading.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1272190768225169408

1. THIS IS NOT REVENUES..TAX REVENUES IS ONLY PART OF REVEUNES(around 70-80%)...AND THAT TOO ONLY FEDERAL TAXATION...provinces have their own taxation..than there are levies and surcharges..

how many pseudo idiots does pakistan produce

3.9% of GDP includes frontier const, atomic energy commission and rangers which essentially is doing policing and has nothing to do with defense..
true spending is around 3% (if pensions included) just 15-20% of federal buget only..

the only job federation has is defense..it literally has no other job..so technically federation can spend 100% on defense.
federal govt hands over 60% of resources in addition to provinces own taxes to province to do other job

 

[darksider]

Imagine what a competent minister can do with all such money...

Main point is competent.a honest but incompetent person is useless.
I hope someday Allah will give us a competent ruler.

 

[truthfollower]

on a lighter note

 

[peagle]

The actual reality of Pakistan defence Budget. Please read.

https://www.thenews.com.pk/print/676291-defence-budget

 

[Sunny4pak]

پاکستان کے دفاعی بجٹ پر کیے جانیوالے اعتراضات اور انکے جواب

https://www.currentaffairs.com.pk/پاکستان-کے-دفاعی-بجٹ-پر-کیے-جانیوالے-اع/