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THE U.S. IS LOSING BADLY IN AFGHANISTAN, BUT THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION IS TELLING AMERICANS LESS

BY TOM O'CONNOR ON 1/31/18 AT 2:53 PM
























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The U.S. and allied local security forces have failed to secure most of Afghanistan, according to a recent investigation that came shortly after the Pentagon refused to release unclassified data on the conflict for the first time ever.

Despite waging nearly 17 consecutive years of war and spending up to $1 trillion, the U.S.-led attempt to defeat the Taliban has left the insurgents openly active in up to 70 percent of Afghanistan, according to a BBC study published Tuesday. The report also found that a rival ultraconservative Sunni Muslim organization, the Islamic State militant group (ISIS), controlled more territory than ever, further complicating the beleaguered effort to stabilize the country.

Related: Where will ISIS be in 2018? Iran says Afghanistan and Pakistan are next as Islamic State loses in Iraq and Syria

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What a federal watchdog chief found particularly “troubling” and a “worrying development,” however, was that none of this information could be included in its mandatory quarterly report on the war. John Sopko, head of the Special Inspector General for Afghanistan Reconstruction (SIGAR), said he was instructed by the Department of Defense (DOD) “not to release to the public data on the number of districts, and the population living in them, controlled or influenced by the Afghan government or by the insurgents, or contested by both.”

A letter preceding SIGAR’s report added, “SIGAR was informed this quarter that DOD has determined that although the most recent numbers are unclassified, they are not releasable to the public.”

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A member of the Afghan security forces takes position at the site of a blast and gun fire in Jalalabad, Afghanistan January 24, 2018. The U.S.-backed Afghan government has steadily lost control to insurgents of the Taliban and ISIS in recent years.PARWIZ/REUTERS

SIGAR said it is the first time the watchdog was blocked from releasing this information, on which it has reported since January 2016, and it was the first time ever “that SIGAR has been specifically instructed not to release information marked ‘unclassified’ to the American taxpayer” since it was created by Congress in 2008 to monitor the already extensive U.S. role in the conflict. SIGAR was deeply critical of the Pentagon and said the public should be especially concerned because trends had historically painted the picture of an increasingly unsuccessful and costly war effort.

The next day, the Pentagon released the statistics, and Navy Captain Thomas Gresback, a spokesman for coalition troops in Afghanistan, told Newsweek in an email, “A human error in labeling occurred” and “It was NOT the intent...to withhold or classify information which was available in prior reports.”

Gresback denied that the figures were censored and said the U.S.-led coalition was in control of 56 percent of the country, the lowest number reported to date. The BBC study Tuesday placed that number even lower, at 30 percent, less than a third of Afghanistan. Gresback said insurgents controlled a record-breaking 14 percent, while the BBC study estimated 4 percent, claiming the vast majority of the country was still disputed.

Both evaluations were released after a week of heightened violence in Afghanistan that saw both the Taliban and ISIS claim attacks that killed a collective of at least 138 people, mostly civilians.

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A map locates recent attacks in Kabul, Afghanistan, amid a particularly violent week, on January 28, 2017.REUTERS

In its latest report, SIGAR also noted that this was the second time in a row the Trump administration had restricted the watchdog from publishing numbers previously made public. In its last quarterly report in October, SIGAR reported historic losses for the U.S.-backed Afghan government, but were unable to include the number of casualties among Afghan troops.

“If they start classifying this stuff now, what are they going to do next month?” Sopko told The New York Times at the time. “It’s a slippery slope.”

Since former President George W. Bush ordered the invasion of Afghanistan to oust the Al-Qaeda-friendly Taliban in the wake of the 9/11 attacks in 2001, three successive U.S. administrations have struggled to deal with the ongoing instability and violence there. Osama bin Laden, the former Al-Qaeda head, fled to neighboring Pakistan at some point during the conflict, however, and was ultimately killed in a 2011 Navy SEAL raid on his compound in Abbottabad.

That same year, President Barack Obama began withdrawing troops from Afghanistan, a decade after the Taliban government was overthrown. Most foreign troops had left the country by 2014, with remaining forces acting in a counterterrorism advisory role.

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An Afghan National Army soldier fires an artillery shell during an ongoing anti-Taliban operation at Farah province, on January 28. As the situation in Afghanistan worsens, the Trump administration appears to be less forthcoming with information.HOSHANG HASHIMI/AFP/GETTY IMAGES

Trump has been critical of his predecessor’s strategy and has sought to win the war by increasing troops, intensifying airstrikes and revealing less information to the U.S. public. Months after the Pentagon declined to release the casualty count of last April’s massive “Mother of All Bombs” explosion targeting ISIS in Afghanistan, Trump declared during the revelation of his Afghanistan War strategy in August that his administration would be less forthcoming than those that they came before him.

“We will not talk about numbers of troops or our plans for further military activities,” Trump said. “Conditions on the ground, not arbitrary timetables, will guide our strategy from now on. America’s enemies must never know our plans or believe they can wait us out. I will not say when we are going to attack, but attack we will.”

He echoed this line in his State of the Union speech Tuesday. Amid unparalleled losses since the 2014 withdrawal, Trump said that “along with their heroic Afghan partners, our military is no longer undermined by artificial timelines, and we no longer tell our enemies our plans.”

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So USA lost the war in Afghanistan. Time for USA to pack up and leave Afghanistan.
 
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The Trump is doing same when it comes to stock market and economic future uncertainty of Los Americanos
 
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Trump is a gambler and a loser. His entire life he has lived a fake persona pretending to be a successful billionaire. The reality is quite to the opposite. Trump is a farce. The typical white redneck American needed a hater in the White House after 8 years of Obama spanking. They found their man. I am loving it how Russia managed to put the orange clown in charge. It has made the status quo furious in the US. All they can do is watch how orangeman runs amok whilst Russia and China steal the show. The Americans like to pretend how they are winning everywhere. The reality is visible for every person. Afghanistan is another huge failure in a long list of failed US wars. 16+ years and counting... Afghan rapist warlords are calling the shots in opiumland and the ordinary burger eating Yank is being told how Afghanistan is the next Silicon valley LOL Meanwhile Yanks beg Pakistan to be on their good side and do more. If this is called winning we might as well change the meaning of the word.
 
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Well Pakistan should be ready in case that country goes boink
We can't have a PKK like situation

Explain what you mean.
If you are comparing Taliban with PKK that is absolute nonsense. Afghan Taliban are the most legitimate force to rule Afghanistan. Pakistan should not make the same blunder Musharraf made back in 2001. In fact, Pakistan should help to create other Islamic movements in Afghanistan that will lay siege to the Kabul govt. They have to transcend Pashtun proxies and start making strategic alliances with Tajiks and Muslim purists in Nuristan and Kunar. Convince them to turn on the Kabul govt. and attack it from the north and east, while Taliban attack it from the south.
 
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Thing is USA is not going from afghanistan,its going to be a never ending stalemate.Its not like USA has huge land forces there anymore,they have a few thousand trainers and special forces - thats it.Their main stick comes from drones and aircraft.The taliban can bleed the afghan army which doesn't have numbers to garrison the countryside and all the major areas anyway( ANA strength around 200,000 against requirement of 500,000 plus),but they can no longer bleed US forces as there are very few land forces left.Meanwhile they can't make any advance as that will be shredded from air by USAF and drones will continue to kill their leadership.
It quite affordable for USA with its 600 billion dollar budget to keep a few thousand soldiers and airpower and drones to keep taliban in check for decades if necessary.Its a stalemate.
 
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Just an opinionated piece; nothing substantial.

US invaded Afghanistan to eradicate Al-Qaeda Network and it succeeded in this regard (mission accomplished).

What we are witnessing at present is the fact that US has entrenched itself in Afghan politics, and this implies that US would remain engaged in Afghanistan for indefinite period. Some are vocal against this commitment actually.

US toppled Taliban-led regime in Afghanistan in 2002 and propped a new regime in its place. Now, it up to Afghans to embrace the new setup or restore Taliban-led regime to power.

If
Afghans want to restore Taliban-led regime, then US should strike a deal with Taliban and exit from the country. Attempts to suppress political alignment of a chunk of Afghan populace (with hard power) is ill-advised.

Only Afghans can tell with certainty what they want.
 
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Thing is USA is not going from afghanistan,its going to be a never ending stalemate.Its not like USA has huge land forces there anymore,they have a few thousand trainers and special forces - thats it.Their main stick comes from drones and aircraft.The taliban can bleed the afghan army which doesn't have numbers to garrison the countryside and all the major areas anyway( ANA strength around 200,000 against requirement of 500,000 plus),but they can no longer bleed US forces as there are very few land forces left.Meanwhile they can't make any advance as that will be shredded from air by USAF and drones will continue to kill their leadership.
It quite affordable for USA with its 600 billion dollar budget to keep a few thousand soldiers and airpower and drones to keep taliban in check for decades if necessary.Its a stalemate.

Very poor analysis. The US might be able to stick around and launch their drones from time to time, but the Afghan govt. cannot endure much longer. It desperately needs an end to the conflict in order to survive, as more and more people are joining the Taliban insurgency out of frustration with the government. Now once the Afghan govt collapses the war is over America loses (and so does India!)
 
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Just an opinionated piece; nothing substantial.

US invaded Afghanistan to eradicate Al-Qaeda Network and it succeeded in this regard (mission accomplished).

What we are witnessing at present is the fact that US has entrenched itself in Afghan politics, and this implies that US would remain engaged in Afghanistan for indefinite period. Some are vocal against this commitment actually.

US toppled Taliban-led regime in Afghanistan in 2002 and propped a new regime in its place. Now, it up to Afghans to embrace the new setup or restore Taliban-led regime to power.

If
Afghans want to restore Taliban-led regime, then US should strike a deal with Taliban and exit from the country. Attempts to suppress political alignment of a chunk of Afghan populace (with hard power) is ill-advised.

Only Afghans can tell with certainty what they want.
Most Afghanistanis want the Afghan Taliban back in power.
 
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Trump is a gambler and a loser. His entire life he has lived a fake persona pretending to be a successful billionaire. The reality is quite to the opposite. Trump is a farce. The typical white redneck American needed a hater in the White House after 8 years of Obama spanking. They found their man. I am loving it how Russia managed to put the orange clown in charge. It has made the status quo furious in the US. All they can do is watch how orangeman runs amok whilst Russia and China steal the show. The Americans like to pretend how they are winning everywhere. The reality is visible for every person. Afghanistan is another huge failure in a long list of failed US wars. 16+ years and counting... Afghan rapist warlords are calling the shots in opiumland and the ordinary burger eating Yank is being told how Afghanistan is the next Silicon valley LOL Meanwhile Yanks beg Pakistan to be on their good side and do more. If this is called winning we might as well change the meaning of the word.




The biggest loss to America is the extreme demographic changes taking place there. Their failure in afghanistan is a manifestation of this. Whites are becoming a minority in America. In order to remain a superpower, the Whites need to remain a majority there and they need to be fully in control of the reigns of american power. Being replaced by blacks and hispanics will ensure america will eventually become a third world nation.
 
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Most Afghanistanis want the Afghan Taliban back in power.
Then US should come to terms with this reality and negotiate an exit-strategy with them. No point in trying to shove the new setup down the throats of people who do not want it.

Taliban have promised in their letters that they will not repeat mistakes of Mullah Omar as in not allow any foreign entity like Al-Qaeda Network to utilize Afghanistan for its nefarious ends. This is a positive gesture and a way out for Americans.

American power projection capabilities are insurmountable but they need to exercise such power sensibly. There are some matters in which power projection is of limited use, and diplomatic options provide a way out.
 
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Then US should come to terms with this reality and negotiate an exit-strategy with them. No point in trying to shove the new setup down the throats of people who do not want it.

Taliban have promised in their letters that they will not repeat mistakes of Mullah Omar as in not allow any foreign entity like Al-Qaeda Network to utilize Afghanistan for its nefarious ends. This is a positive gesture and a way out for Americans.

American power projection capabilities are insurmountable but they need to exercise such power sensibly.

america new alley is india, this un acceptable for non pushtoon elite and india ...
infact uptill now they havent been even a consideration for talks and the elite doesn't want to share or talk they are happy the way Afghanistan is

there are two possibilities here..
  1. prolong war that would end in victory for USA backed non pushtoons
  2. USA withdraws followed by prolonged war that will end up in victory for either non pushtoons or pushtoons in process destroying Afghanistan..
 
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Very poor analysis. The US might be able to stick around and launch their drones from time to time, but the Afghan govt. cannot endure much longer. It desperately needs an end to the conflict in order to survive, as more and more people are joining the Taliban insurgency out of frustration with the government. Now once the Afghan govt collapses the war is over America loses (and so does India!)

what if 3 million refugees in Pakistan are forced to leave for Afghanistan. and supposedly if 100k people of them join Taliban, it will be the devastating for the afghan govt.
 
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Thing is USA is not going from afghanistan,its going to be a never ending stalemate.Its not like USA has huge land forces there anymore,they have a few thousand trainers and special forces - thats it.Their main stick comes from drones and aircraft.The taliban can bleed the afghan army which doesn't have numbers to garrison the countryside and all the major areas anyway( ANA strength around 200,000 against requirement of 500,000 plus),but they can no longer bleed US forces as there are very few land forces left.Meanwhile they can't make any advance as that will be shredded from air by USAF and drones will continue to kill their leadership.
It quite affordable for USA with its 600 billion dollar budget to keep a few thousand soldiers and airpower and drones to keep taliban in check for decades if necessary.Its a stalemate.
With all the economic pressure, I'm not sure for how long US can stay there. The only reason US voted Trump in was, total economic revamp. They're spending heavily in Iraq, Syria, Libya and Afghanistan. Even if they've stationed less armed personnel in Afghanistan, they're still bleeding economically.

On top of that, it has tarnished the image of US as a super power. Reason being,

1) Their failure to attain fruitful result in Afghanistan.
2) Their failure to repel Russia in Syria.

Its a big embarrassment for US globally. They've been defeated but they don't want to accept it and have become sore loser.
 
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