The Type 094 has finished the strategic deterrent patrol

[kungfugymnast]

Here is the incident about the collision, and it was happening in 6 years ago, back then China only had the Type 093, not the more advanced Type 093B and the Type 095.

Sub collides with sonar array towed by U.S. Navy ship - CNN.com

Yes and even so, new US destroyers failed to detect it on sonar. If it's newer more advanced Chinese subs, they are far more dangerous then.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Yes and even so, new US destroyers failed to detect it on sonar. If it's newer more advanced Chinese subs, they are far more dangerous then.

The DDG involved in that incident was the USS John McCain which belongs to the Arleigh Burke Flight I, it is an old model of the Arleigh Burke class, but China's sub is also an earlier Type 093.

The later Arleigh Burke class has the dual hangar that has greatly increased the anti-sub warfare, but China is now also equipping with the much more powerful nuclear subs, so it should be an interesting match.

 

[BATTLE FIELD]

6 years ago incident
was the U.S navy sleeping..

 

[gambit]

Yes and even so, new US destroyers failed to detect it on sonar. If it's newer more advanced Chinese subs, they are far more dangerous then.

Posts like these usually ends up making the poster, not US, look stupid.

You rely on three senses: eyes, ears, and touch. A submarine has only one: sound.

If the sub collide with a towed sonar array, guess who is most likely at fault ? It ain't the surface ship with towing the array, kid.

Was the towed array active, meaning it was 'pinging' ? If yes, then what the hell was the sub's sonarman doing and not hear the sound ? Was he asleep ?

Was the towed array passive, meaning it was silent ? When a surface ship deployed a towed array, the ship cannot maneuver or move above a certain speed. That mean the Chinese sub's sonarman should have been trained well enough to detect a change in the ship's behavior based upon changes in noise, and if the change indicate a steady heading, the sub's captain should have guessed the surface ship is doing something. You do not deploy a towed array for nothing.

6 years ago incident
was the U.S navy sleeping..

See above...

Sub collides with sonar array towed by U.S. Navy ship - CNN.com

The official, who declined to be named because the incident had not been made public, would not say whether the U.S. ship knew the submarine was that close to it.

Why would he ? A towed array is much cheaper than a ship, especially when it can do damage to the sub who relies on body integrity to maintain a consistent hull noise level. If the towed array damaged the Chinese sub enough, guess who really pays the price ?

 

[gambit]

Chinese subs haven proven their effective stealth capability slipping through 2x US arleigh burke class destroys towing sonar on patrol and Indian naval fleet undetected. They have foiled Americans assumption that all chinese subs are as noisy as Han class which is not true.

The American ASW advanced destroyer had the biggest shame when chinese sub got so near going through under it and rammed its sonar out of the way. 2 US destroys failed to detect PLAN sub right under their noses proven that china modern subs are really good.

So according to our Malaysian friend here, Chinese sub commanders will effect collisions to get obstacles out of their way. This is perfectly in line with the PLAAF using collisions -- The Hainan Incident -- to get American aircrafts out of the way. Incredible combat tactics.

 

[kungfugymnast]

So according to our Malaysian friend here, Chinese sub commanders will effect collisions to get obstacles out of their way. This is perfectly in line with the PLAAF using collisions -- The Hainan Incident -- to get American aircrafts out of the way. Incredible combat tactics.

The chinese sub just trying to went through the American asw destroyer as successful humiliation and knocked off the destroyer's sonar in the way.

The hainan ep3c incident, the f-8 finback 2 was underpowered with weak engines therefore it failed to perform JAG ep1 and topgun style harassment that it stalled right in front of Ep3c and hit by the ep3c. Chinese made fighters were inferior at that time as they have yet know the formula to build proper engines and fighters.

The latter similar incident is part 2 between ep8 (replacing ep3c) and j11bs (replacing f8). The j11bs had more thrusts than f14b and far more powerful than the obsolete f8 finback 2. It managed to perform the harassment well.

Check history, Americans were once inferior than french, brits, germans in millitary equipments struggling to build proper tanks, ships, jet engines. Americans too started by reverse engineering and today, their tech superceeded the countries they copied from.

 

[Sanchez]

The facts are that Chinese boomers are being improved, besides conventional subs.