The Truth: Wen's Visit to Pakistan

[SpArK]

Hi

Without beating around the bush, it would be nice if somebody can provide the breakaway figures of the 35B$ deals (case by case, company by company), so that we can move on to the next topic .

 

[grace]

Read reply by some Bharatis. They seem to know Sethi just as well.

yea ...even i know him through defense.pk or youtube ......


"Since how many years you are following Najam sethi in talk shows and his editorials in the friday times and daily times"
by ajtr

why would any Indian will follow najam sethi....??
do you follow vir sangvi, barqa dutta .........or any other Indian journalist...??

 

[GMSS]

elaborate 35 billion dollars

 

[ajtr]

Any interested person will sure follow the jurnos from both side of Wagah.Its not about why an indian will follow pakistani jurnos or why a pakistani will follow indian jurnos.

 

[grace]

Any interested person will sure follow the jurnos from both side of Wagah.Its not about why an indian will follow pakistani jurnos or why a pakistani will follow indian jurnos.

yea sure....

 

[SpArK]

Any interested person will sure follow the jurnos from both side of Wagah.Its not about why an indian will follow pakistani jurnos or why a pakistani will follow indian jurnos.

Hi interested person

At least you can enlighten us on the topic , clear the doubts.

 

[absmonarch]

Najam Sethi should come on Indian TV channel and tell truth about Pakistan to all Indians.

Ahmed Rashid should also come on Indian TV. Wise and knowledgable person Ahmed Rashid.

 

[Hyde]

Hi

Without beating around the bush, it would be nice if somebody can provide the breakaway figures of the 35B$ deals (case by case, company by company), so that we can move on to the next topic .

did we ever released details before? You think Pakistan is India? This has never been our tendency to disclose all details in public. Never ever we did that.... only a brief touch to subjects is more than enough.

Only source of our information is Indian government who always raise her concern on chinese projects in Pakistan. Sometimes its dam, sometimes road, sometimes factories sometimes something else....

Wait until someone shouts from India and you will know your answer

PS: We have 120 projects in the country where 10,000 chinese workers/engineers are involved... out of 120 projects one can hardly name 15-20 projects thanks to objections raised by India. These are not defense deals but we never even disclose economic deals finalized between Pakistan and China

 

[ajtr]

Wait until someone shouts from India and you will know your answer

Like sudden presence of Chinese soldiers in gilgit baltistan......................

 

[SpArK]

did we ever released details before? You think Pakistan is India? This has never been our tendency to disclose all details in public. Never ever we did that.... only a brief touch to subjects is more than enough.

Only source of our information is Indian government who always raise her concern on chinese projects in Pakistan. Sometimes its dam, sometimes road, sometimes factories sometimes something else....

Wait until someone shouts from India and you will know your answer

PS: We have 120 projects in the country where 10,000 chinese workers/engineers are involved... out of 120 projects one can hardly name 15-20 projects thanks to objections raised by India. These are not defense deals but we never even disclose economic deals finalized between Pakistan and China

So its not public projects they have signed and people are not supposed to know about it and all that they will ever hear is its a 35B$ deal.

I got it.

 

[The HBS Guy]

PS: We have 120 projects in the country where 10,000 chinese workers/engineers are involved... out of 120 projects one can hardly name 15-20 projects thanks to objections raised by India. These are not defense deals but we never even disclose economic deals finalized between Pakistan and China

Oh bhai mere!

You are pointing the fact that X no. of projects are running with Chinese help. Fine. NS accepts that in the video.

What do you have to say about the other things that NS mentions in the same program?

 

[Hyde]

So its not public projects they have signed and people are not supposed to know about it and all that they will ever hear is its a 35B$ deal.

I got it.

didn't say that we never come to know about those projects

you know/hear once the construction works starts or when the entire project is completed

I said it is too early to expect for full details of these projects. We take time and speak only once everything is finalized or materialized. We don't start giving details 6 months prior to construction work of projects unlike our neighbours.

Its too early to mention all details couple of projects have already been revealed while most projects are yet to be told but that does not mean they were not signed.

 

[The HBS Guy]

all that they will ever hear is its a 35B$ deal.

Hell No!

Sometimes they'll hear $20bn

Sometimes $30bn

Sometimes $35bn

Sometimes $50bn...

And that is something no one has answered yet.

 

[Dalai Lama]

Like sudden presence of Chinese soldiers in gilgit baltistan......................

 

[ajtr]

Wen Moves Pakistan Closer to China with US$35 Billion Deal​

Dec. 21 – Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao has signed US$35 billion worth of deals with Pakistan, much of it in infrastructure deals designed to better connect the country with Xinjiang Province.

China has a border with Northeast Pakistan at Taxkorgan, with trade crossing the Karokoram Highway through from Kashgar to Gilgit and beyond. Roughly US$20 billion was signed in government-to-government contracts and a further US$15 billion in private sector deals.

The amounts outstrip those signed a few days earlier with India by some US$19 billion.​

China is looking to recalibrate its trade partnership with Pakistan – currently much of it based on arms and weapons – to infrastructure development. Pakistan has a southern coast line with the Arabian Sea, and China has already committed billions of dollars of investment at Gwadar Port there, giving it access to sizable Middle Eastern markets. The Karokoram Highway will also be upgraded with an ultimate aim of being to provide road and rail links from Xinjiang all the way through to Gilgit, Islamabad and on to Gwadar.

The deals are certain to impact upon Kashgar and Taxkorgan. Kashgar is mooted to become an economic zone in its own right and possesses China’s most westerly rail stop. China has long been looking at plans to extend that south through to Islamabad, with technology developed in constructing the Golmud-Lhasa railway. An upgrading of Pakistan’s rail network, presumably to allow high speed rail would also potentially be in the pipeline. Kashgar’s airport, which has weekly connections to Gilgit and Islamabad, will need upgrading, while the Karokoram Highway, which passes through some of the most spectacular scenery along the old silk road, will need massive amounts of work to secure its constantly collapsing roads and ultimately lead to a year-round passageway.

The terrain of the Pamir Mountains here is shale, and is extraordinarily difficult to secure for permanent roads. China employs full-time work crews permanently mending the Karokoram Highway, which currently closes in winter due to heavy snow and ice falls. The route can be highly dangerous. Nevertheless, opening up and developing this will have significant impacts on the economies of both Kashgar and Gilgit, and may lead to a more peaceful trading environment than that currently available on the Pakistan side. Mortars, Kalashnikov rifles, grenades and rocket launchers are available for sale in Gilgit; that type of trade will need to move on in this spectacular, still dangerous, but strategically important part of Asia if these ancient trade routes can be redeveloped.