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The silence in the muslim world about Yarmuk

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Those people in the Yarmouk Camp (it's not really a camp in the sense of the word it's actually an entire neighborhood of Damascus) is not solely inhabited by Palestinians but 90% of the Palestinians who live/lived there were all born inside Syria and some are even 3 generation Palestinian-Syrians.



Al-Assad is a brutal and cunning dictator that uses every single mean to remain in power this also includes using ISIS to his advantage to punish his enemies. After all in his view two enemies are fighting each other. That's also why the Al-Assad regime has been buying oil from ISIS for almost 2 years now and let FSA and ISIS kill each other.

There is no other conclusion than to eliminate Al-Assad, his regime, ISIS and Al-Nusra from a peace settlement/political solution in Syria. Anyone that tries to include those 3 parties or sees them as a solution is crazy and does not want the best for Syria and its people. When I say regime then I am talking about all the top dogs. Not the ordinary Syrian soldier. Whoever intervenes in Syria should not commit the mistakes of the US/West when they invaded Iraq and basically criminalized the entire army of Saddam, police force etc.

Now those same people are leading and have created ISIS. Don't believe what I say? Then look here below.

The hidden hand behind the Islamic State militants? Saddam Hussein’s.

Most of Islamic State’s leaders were officers in Saddam Hussein’s Iraq

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Why Palestinians in Yarmouk Are Unlucky
by Khaled Abu Toameh
April 10, 2015 at 5:00 am


Why Palestinians in Yarmouk Are Unlucky

For Palestinian Authority (PA) leaders, the desire to punish Israel is stronger than the will to save the lives of thousands of Palestinians being killed in Syria by the Islamic State and starved by the Syrian army, which has been besieging Yarmouk for 700 days.

Instead of devoting their energies and efforts to stop the massacres in Yarmouk, PA officials were busy preparing a new draft resolution to be submitted to the UN Security Council, establishing a timeline for ending Israeli "occupation."

The Arab foreign ministers who met in Cairo earlier this week to discuss ways of backing the new Palestinian bid, deliberately ignored that, as they were chatting and sipping coffee, Palestinians were being slaughtered and forced to flee their homes in Yarmouk.

For the PA, Jews participating in a marathon seems to be more serious and life-threatening than Islamic State terrorists beheading Palestinians and destroying Palestinian homes in Yarmouk.

"All that is left for us to do is howl, slap and cry." — Ashraf al-Ajrami, former Palestinian Authority minister.

As Palestinians were being killed and beheaded by Islamic State terrorists in the Yarmouk refugee camp near Damascus over the past week, Palestinian leaders once again proved that delegitimizing and isolating Israel is more important than caring about their people.

After seven days of fighting, Islamic State is now in control of nearly 90% of the camp, which once used to be home to more than 150,000 Palestinians. The United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestinian Refugees (UNRWA) estimates that since the beginning of the civil war in Syria four years ago, the population of Yarmouk has dropped to 18,000.



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Part of Yarmouk, near Damascus, after being damaged by fighting. (Image source: RT video screenshot)

Palestinian Authority (PA) and Hamas leaders have expressed deep concern over the Islamic State takeover of Yarmouk. Over the past week, these leaders issued daily statements strongly condemning the "massacres" in Yarmouk and calling for an end to the fighting. But they have stopped short of calling for an emergency meeting of Arab leaders to stop the attack on the camp.

PA President Mahmoud Abbas decided earlier this week to dispatch senior PLO representative Ahmed Majdalani to Syria for talks aimed at ending the crisis and saving the lives of the camp residents.

In some parts of the West Bank and Gaza Strip, Palestinian activists held sit-in strikes and small rallies in protest against the "heinous crimes" perpetrated by Islamic State against Palestinians in Yarmouk.

But the decision to dispatch the PLO official to Syria and the limited protests in the West Bank and Gaza Strip are unlikely to help the Palestinians in Yarmouk. Nor will they deter Islamic State terrorists from proceeding with their crimes.

The Palestinians in Yarmouk are unlucky, mainly because they are being attacked and killed by Muslims, and not by Israel. An Israeli attack on the camp would have drawn worldwide condemnation and protests, with Palestinian and Arab leaders rushing to seek the intervention of the UN Security Council and the international community.

The Palestinians in Yarmouk are unlucky because their leaders in the Palestinian Authority and Hamas are still busy fighting each other over power and money. This is a power struggle that has been going on since Hamas drove the PA out of the Gaza Strip in the summer of 2007.

They are also unfortunate because Palestinian leaders seem to have other things on their minds, such as proceeding with the campaign to isolate and delegitimize Israel in every possible international forum. For PA leaders, the desire to punish Israel is stronger than the will to save the lives of thousands of Palestinians being killed by the Islamic State and starved by the Syrian army, which has been besieging Yarmouk for more than 700 days.

Instead of devoting their energies and efforts to stop the massacres in Yarmouk, Palestinian Authority officials were busy during the past week preparing a new draft resolution to be submitted to the UN Security Council, establishing a timeline for ending Israeli "occupation."

The proposed resolution, of course, does not make any reference to the Yarmouk tragedy. The Arab foreign ministers who met in Cairo earlier this week to discuss ways of backing the new Palestinian bid deliberately ignored that, as they were chatting and sipping coffee, Palestinians were being slaughtered and forced to flee their homes in Yarmouk.

Instead, PA officials were traveling from one country to the other to advance their campaign to punish and isolate Israel.

Jibril Rajoub, Chairman of the Palestinian Football Association, was in Cairo to demand that the International Federation of Association Football (FIFA) suspend Israel's membership. Rajoub did not see any need to travel to Syria to try to help his people in Yarmouk.

It is worth noting that FIFA President Sepp Blatter said he was opposed to the Palestinian bid. "uspension of a federation for any reason is always something which harms the whole organization," he said. It is hard to see how suspending Israel's membership in FIFA would help any Palestinian, especially those who are being starved to death and slaughtered by the Syrian army and the Islamic State.

While the fighting in Yarmouk continued, PA President Mahmoud Abbas flew to Doha for talks with the emir of Qatar. The PLO's official news agency reported that Abbas and the emir discussed "bilateral relations and the latest developments concerning the Palestinian cause." Again, there was no reference to the plight of the Yarmouk residents. It later transpired that Abbas went to Qatar to ask for a $100 million loan.

Although Abbas's ruling Fatah faction did express concern over the Yarmouk tragedy in a series of laconic statements published in the past few days in Ramallah, Fatah proved once again that Palestinians being butchered, starved to death and forced out of their homes is not more important than the campaign to punish and isolate Israel.

Instead of talking about that the Islamic State's and Syria's war crimes against Palestinians, Fatah continues to boast that it is spearheading the campaign against Israel at the International Criminal Court.

Here is what Fatah spokesman Osama Qawassmeh had to say while the fighting in Yarmouk was underway: "The Palestinian leadership is determined to pursue its efforts to prosecute Israel for war crimes. We will present to the International Criminal Court all the necessary documents that implicate Israeli war criminals."

The Palestinian Authority's Ministry of Information also seemed to be more concerned with a "settler marathon" than with the lives of Palestinians in Yarmouk.

In a statement issued in Ramallah, the ministry condemned a planned marathon by settlers as an "aggression against Palestinian territories and continuation of Israeli arrogance." The ministry called on all international institutions and human rights groups to "focus on the terror of settlers, which is this time disguised in sports clothing."

For the Palestinian Authority, Jews participating in a marathon seems to be more serious and life-threatening than Islamic State terrorists beheading Palestinians and destroying Palestinian homes in Yarmouk.

Were the Palestinian leaders to invest 10% of their anti-Israel efforts to help their people in Yarmouk and the Gaza Strip, the Palestinians would be in a much better situation today. However, these leaders are obviously determined to remain obsessed with Israel at the same time as they continue to bury their heads in the sand about ISIS's slaughter of their people.

Summing up the state on apathy toward the suffering of the Palestinians in Syria, Ashraf al-Ajrami, a former PA minister, remarked: "The Palestinian situation is at its worst phase. The PLO has lost the ability to move and defend the Palestinians in all places. The various Palestinian factions are incapable of forming a Palestinian force to protect the refugees. The Palestinian leadership is also incapable of ending the division between Fatah and Hamas. All that is left for us to do is to howl, slap and cry."

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AZIZAM and Mike 200 are 2 monkeys who are obsessed with Arabs and Muslims. They thrive on hate and throwing insults against anyone. Just wonder why these monkeys are not banned for good, tough? Hazzy is banned but these 2 monkeys are around? I don't get it.

Back to the story, ISIS = Israeli Security and Intelligence Service.
 
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AZIZAM and Mike 200 are 2 monkeys who are obsessed with Arabs and Muslims. They thrive on hate and throwing insults against anyone. Just wonder why these monkeys are not banned for good, tough? Hazzy is banned but these 2 monkeys are around? I don't get it.

Back to the story, ISIS = Israeli Security and Intelligence Service.

I don't care about those two brother. I am just reacting to their troll posts that make little sense. This news is about them (almost exclusively women, children, elders etc.) getting slaughtered (literary) which they use to score some brownie points while one of them keeps crying about a few hundred Yazidis in comparison. Despicable. The moderation has been poor for a while. No need to state the obvious. In any case Hazzy apparently lost it in a discussion with Blackeagle. I did not see it. Anyway he is needed.
 
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apartheid

Explain, please.
background to my comment is generally speaking, the behaviour and attitude of Muslim leaders and its public is hardly a shining beacon of morality on which the western fairness is based. so using them as a yardstick over how to react to human tragedies is wasteful and missing the point.

the original poster's choice of words was unfortunate where the loss of human life was "interesting" because of their faith and the perpetrators.

I know choice of words wont be that liberal and joyful by the OP if we change the place and victims. moving to Nigeria where the victims are Christian students who were massacred by Boko Haram terrorist.

still dont get me?
instead of quoting the acts of apartheid Muslim states and terrorists like ISIS and Boko Haram one should look for better examples in est or west if the purpose is to mourn or highlight the plight of the human beings in an unfortunate place and time
 
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Not all Jews are our enemy but we consider Zionist Jews as enemy

Iranians are not our enemy, the problem is the Iranian Islamic radical regime. I belive that if Islamist will not be on power someday then we can have a good relationship like we have with some Muslim Countries.
 
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There is an interesting article in the "WELT" today that says nobody can take protests of muslims against israel and for palestine serious anymore.

They rally mass demonstrations for evry palestinian killed from israel but stay silent while ISIS murders thousands of Palestinians now in Yarmuk, behead them and play soccer with their heads. The UN calls the recent events there as simpley "Heart of darkness".+

Yet you see not one comment about it from the muslim world. Where is Hamas while their fellow countrymen are being slaughtered? Where the typical mass rallies in Iran and Pakistan?

Of course evryone knew that the palestinian question is just used for political gains in the muslim world and nobody there gives a shit about them.

But its good that the recent acting of the muslim world finally shows it in public
These bloody dogs known as ISIS has to be hunted down where ever found and no body is silent no media is covering this
 
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background to my comment is generally speaking, the behaviour and attitude of Muslim leaders and its public is hardly a shining beacon of morality on which the western fairness is based. so using them as a yardstick over how to react to human tragedies is wasteful and missing the point.

the original poster's choice of words was unfortunate where the loss of human life was "interesting" because of their faith and the perpetrators.
I'm not sure OP's words count as "bigotry". I'd classify them as Schadenfreude. What I want to know is why do you think these words lead to more terrorism?
 
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I'm not sure OP's words count as "bigotry". I'd classify them as Schadenfreude. What I want to know is why do you think these words lead to more terrorism?
thanks for correcting me, as you know English is not the first language and I think your choice of word is far better and I conquer.

to your question in the end. I dont fully understand the question I am sorry. lets ensure we are talking about the same thing.

* OP says Muslims are generally silent over the brutality of fellow Muslims on other Muslims (he cites an example). I agree
*OP therefore concludes that Muslim protests over Israeli treatment of Palestinians cant be taken seriously. I understand

* OP makes a remark in the end about this predicament of Muslim world. I object to that
* his choice of words or his attitude does not and shouldn't lead to more terrorism. they are just a personal opinion.
*No Muslim terrorist Organisation therefore has a justification to commit terrorism against civilians.

I will never try to explain or justify terrorism. to me all these terrorist organisations are opportunists and thugs and they feed on injustice of Muslims. I cant argue with them, they are doing a divine work they KNOW they a re right and they will not spare anyone.

imagine the Knight Templars today who would'nt hesitate from beheading the sister of Saladin. the difference is that these Knight Templars are Muslims and instead of Bible they have Quran to justify what they are doing.

sorry, gone too far?

These bloody dogs known as ISIS has to be hunted down where ever found and no body is silent no media is covering this
problem with the western media is that it ignores or gives little coverage to the protests because such reaction wont make a good sell and doesn't have a shock value.

whereas anything controversial by a single Cleric out of tens of thousands will make a headline. your voice and my voice is muffled out.
 
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