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The silence in the muslim world about Yarmuk

Do they have a big problem with ISIS? Even hazzy is a supporter of ISIS as long as they chant the usual line of "death to x" but with no action of course.

LOOL They can support ISIS and other of their brother terror groups for all i care. One thing i'm sure about is that ISIS dont give a damn, any little difference wil be met with beheading and their heads used for playing football.:sick: So is up to them to support who they want. Afterall of what use is it advising/reasoning with a dumb man??:bad: Only ISIS can make them see reason it seems.:devil::chilli::butcher::lol:[/QUOTE]
 
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Thanks for that long explanation Al-Hasani, yup I do agree that some native ethnic in Indonesia has strong Middle Eastern connection, particularly in Sumatra and at some extend in Java like found in Betawi ethnic. They are already mixed with the locals and forget about their Arab connection. So, it is difficult to see any Arab Indonesian from Sumatra people, even though Islam and first Islamic Kingdom is from this region. In contrast, Arab Indonesian in Java is still retaining their family name from Hadramaut that is mostly due to protect its link with their prophet Muhammad blood.

Talking about geopolitics. Actually in the past, Soeharto like to put Arab Indonesian as his foreign minister. So there is like an open secret that our foreign minister should be Arab Indonesian. So, I guest it was effort made by Soeharto to get closed with the Arab world and to give a sign that Soeharto administration is a pro Arab one.

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Ali Alatas, Indonesian foreign minister during Soeharto regime. He was at the position for very long period.

Thank you for that post brother. I was not aware of that. The Arab world and Indonesia (South East Asia) as a whole have very deep ties on almost any level (historical, trade, cultural, religious, ethnic etc.) and we (I say we while the common man has not much to say sadly as of now at least) must work for even closer ties on all fronts especially when it comes to economic, political, scientific and military cooperation. I read recently that the Indonesian foreign minister urged KSA to open its market up for more Indonesian products and he encouraged Saudi Arabians and other Arab people to visit Indonesia. Malaysia is already a popular tourist destination and well-known. Indonesia should work to become such a place for Arab/ME tourists as well.

Also I am not sure if you like football as much as I do (lol) but the Indonesian president of Inter (Erick Thohir) performed umrah this week.



Erick Thohir - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Maybe Indonesian media has reported this?

What's with the insults labeled towards the Palestinian people from trolls? You know nothing about Palestinian people. Alone in South America there are 10 million people of Palestinian Arab origin and most of them are Christians. Palestinians are great and beautiful people that have strengths and weaknesses like any other. The Arab people stand firmly behind our Palestinian brothers and sisters (Muslims, Christians and Atheists alike) regardless of what our regimes do. Stop the senseless attacks. Hazzy is banned too. You have a problem with him obviously. Stop targeting all Palestinians because of him.

@Falcon29
 
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Sadly Palestinians are victims of these groups like Hamas.
But what to expect from Hamas ... bunch of retards just taking profits . Indeed they enjoy spending money when their country suffers .
Palestinians don't need Israel as ennemy. They have their own ennemies inside.
 
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Sadly Palestinians are victims of these groups like Hamas.
But what to expect from Hamas ... bunch of retards just taking profits . Indeed they enjoy spending money when their country suffers .
Palestinians don't need Israel as ennemy. They have their own ennemies inside.

Palestinians are in a very difficult situation that no other people in the ME are or can quite frankly really relate too. So it is only logical that there will be fractions within the Palestinians. Can you name 1 single country without fractions especially one with the history of the Palestinians and the unique situation they are in? Probably not. Or in fact I am sure that you nor anybody else can.

Problems are found among the Israeli regime, Hamas, Abbas and other fractions. Meanwhile the average man and woman suffers regardless of being Muslims, Christians or Atheists.

All this does not give users here any reason to spread their venom by abusing Palestinians (unmotivated) just because they have a problem with Hazzy. Those individuals are likely to know close to nothing about the Palestinian people, their history, the history of their land etc. To them it's Palestinian = Arab = Muslim = bad. I can detect such people from miles away instantly. Nobody is able to fool me here on PDF at least. The patterns of each "camp" here and their logic/arguments etc. have been detected long ago.

@Wahhab2701

Long time no see brother. This thread might interest you and my discussion with brother @Indos
 
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Also I am not sure if you like football as much as I do (lol) but the Indonesian president of Inter (Erick Thohir) performed umrah this week.



Erick Thohir - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Maybe Indonesian media has reported this?

@Falcon29

I dont think so brother........well, usually we only report our President if he wants to do umrah or Hajj, never report our businessmen trip. But if actually you asked about his Inter Milan presidency, yup he is quite famous here because of his decision to buy Inter Milan majority stocks.

Thank you for that post brother. I was not aware of that. The Arab world and Indonesia (South East Asia) as a whole have very deep ties on almost any level (historical, trade, cultural, religious, ethnic etc.) and we (I say we while the common man has not much to say sadly as of now at least) must work for even closer ties on all fronts especially when it comes to economic, political, scientific and military cooperation. I read recently that the Indonesian foreign minister urged KSA to open its market up for more Indonesian products and he encouraged Saudi Arabians and other Arab people to visit Indonesia. Malaysia is already a popular tourist destination and well-known. Indonesia should work to become such a place for Arab/ME tourists as well.

In term of military cooperation, your parliament already back Indonesia-Saudi strategic defense agreement not long time ago.

And talking about tourism, I can say that If we are compared to Malaysia, Indonesia is actually much much more interesting place, even when my cousin visited Malaysia for holiday last year, a Malaysian asked him of why he visited his country since not many can be seen there according to that Malaysian....... :partay:
 
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I dont think so brother........well, usually we only report our President if he wants to do umrah or Hajj, never report our businessmen trip. But if actually you asked about his Inter Milan presidency, yup he is quite famous here because of his decision to buy Inter Milan majority stocks.



In term of military cooperation, your parliament already back Indonesia-Saudi strategic defense agreement not long time ago.

And talking about tourism, I can say that If we are compared to Malaysia, Indonesia is actually much much more interesting place, even when my cousin visited Malaysia for holiday last year, a Malaysian asked him of why he visited his country since not many can be seen there according to that Malaysian....... :partay:

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You must be referring to official state agencies here? You must have plenty of gossip media like in the Arab world and West. I am sure that they have uncovered it.

Yes, that was a little more than 1 year ago. I remember us and many other users discussing that encouraging news. I wish for more such news.

Yes, Indonesia is definitely more interesting by virtue of your size and all those beautiful islands but I think that people might be scared of traveling to Indonesia. You know how most people are. They are ignorant. All it takes is more exposure and then I am sure that many more will travel. Many already do after all.
 
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Palestinians are in a very difficult situation that no other people in the ME are or can quite frankly really relate too. So it is only logical that there will be fractions within the Palestinians. Can you name 1 single country without fractions especially one with the history of the Palestinians and the unique situation they are in? Probably not. Or in fact I am sure that you nor anybody else can.

Problems are found among the Israeli regime, Hamas, Abbas and other fractions. Meanwhile the average man and woman suffers regardless of being Muslims, Christians or Atheists.

All this does not give users here any reason to spread their venom by abusing Palestinians (unmotivated) just because they have a problem with Hazzy. Those individuals are likely to know close to nothing about the Palestinian people, their history, the history of their land etc. To them it's Palestinian = Arab = Muslim = bad. I can detect such people from miles away instantly. Nobody is able to fool me here on PDF at least. The patterns of each "camp" here and their logic/arguments etc. have been detected long ago.

@Wahhab2701

Long time no see brother. This thread might interest you and my discussion with brother @Indos

To be honest with you, Palestinians(especially terror group Hamas) are the most famous backstabbers ever. lool :rofl:
If not we wont hearing news like this from the telegraph:


Iran cuts Hamas funding over Syria
Iran has cut up to £15 million a month in funding for Hamas as punishment for the movement's backing for the uprising in Syria, the Palestinian Islamist group's leaders have admited.


Ghazi Hamad described relations with Iran frankly as 'bad' before adding: 'Diplomatically, I have to use other words' Photo: AFP

By Robert Taiz, Gaza City

3:07PM BST 31 May 2013


The two former close allies have also ceased military cooperation, effectively ending a warm relationship that saw Tehran provide weapons, technical know-how and military training to Hamas fighters.

The rupture has been caused by Hamas's refusal to toe the Iranian line by supporting President Bashar al-Assad, whose Alawite regime is religiously loosely related to the Shia Islam practiced by Iran's ruling theocracy.

Hamas - which runs the Gaza Strip - has sided with its Sunni co-religionists trying to unseat Mr Assad, in common with other mainly Sunni countries like Turkey, Egypt and Saudi Arabia.

Ghazi Hamad, Hamas's deputy foreign minister, described relations with Iran frankly as "bad" before adding: "Diplomatically, I have to use other words."

Asked about Iranian funding, he said: "I can say it is not like the past. I cannot give you the exact amount. For supporting the Syrian revolution, we lost very much.

"I cannot deny that since 2006 Iran supported Hamas with money and many [other] things. But the situation is not like the past. I cannot say that everything is normal."

He added: "I cannot say there is military cooperation."

While Hamas officials have previously said they would not retaliate on Iran's behalf if Israel attacked the Islamic Republic's nuclear facilities - citing disagreements over Syria - they have previously been coy about funding from a country that is Shia and non-Arab.

Iran gave Hamas an estimated £13-15 million a month after its victory in the 2006 Palestinian legislative elections - enough to cover its governing budget, said Dr Adnan Abu Amer, assistant professor of political science at Gaza City's Ummah University.

Tehran still sends a "tiny amount" to maintain ties and keep its much-trumpeted support of the Palestinian cause alive, he said. But relations have been all but severed.

Hamas' bureau in Tehran, just off the city's main boulevard and long treated as a de facto embassy, no longer has a permanent representative and is run by a skeleton staff.

"The Iranian support for Assad was the kiss of death to the relationship," said Dr Abu Amer, who is close to Hamas. "Hamas has lost from the disagreement financially and military and so far, no-one has replaced the Iranian support.

"Iran has lost its influence not only in Gaza but in Palestine as a whole and across the Arab world because it backed the Assad regime. Iran successfully presented itself after the 1979 Islamic Revolution as the champion of the poor and the oppressed and an opponent of imperialism and American influence. They have lost in two years what they gained in 30 and I think it won't be properly repaired."

Ahmed Yousef, an adviser to Ismail Haniyeh, Hamas' prime minister in Gaza, called Iran's support for Mr Assad "shocking" and accused it of acting out of "sectarian" motives.

"We never expected that a country like Iran, which talked about oppressed people and dictatorial regimes, would stand behind a dictator like Assad who is killing his own people," he said. "To us, it shakes the basis of the Islamic principles that Iran has recited all these years after the Islamic Revolution."

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To be honest with you, Palestinians(especially terror group Hamas) are the most famous backstabbers ever. lool :rofl:
If not we wont hearing news like this from the telegraph:


Iran cuts Hamas funding over Syria
Iran has cut up to £15 million a month in funding for Hamas as punishment for the movement's backing for the uprising in Syria, the Palestinian Islamist group's leaders have admited.


Ghazi Hamad described relations with Iran frankly as 'bad' before adding: 'Diplomatically, I have to use other words' Photo: AFP

By Robert Taiz, Gaza City

3:07PM BST 31 May 2013


The two former close allies have also ceased military cooperation, effectively ending a warm relationship that saw Tehran provide weapons, technical know-how and military training to Hamas fighters.

The rupture has been caused by Hamas's refusal to toe the Iranian line by supporting President Bashar al-Assad, whose Alawite regime is religiously loosely related to the Shia Islam practiced by Iran's ruling theocracy.

Hamas - which runs the Gaza Strip - has sided with its Sunni co-religionists trying to unseat Mr Assad, in common with other mainly Sunni countries like Turkey, Egypt and Saudi Arabia.

Ghazi Hamad, Hamas's deputy foreign minister, described relations with Iran frankly as "bad" before adding: "Diplomatically, I have to use other words."

Asked about Iranian funding, he said: "I can say it is not like the past. I cannot give you the exact amount. For supporting the Syrian revolution, we lost very much.

"I cannot deny that since 2006 Iran supported Hamas with money and many [other] things. But the situation is not like the past. I cannot say that everything is normal."

He added: "I cannot say there is military cooperation."

While Hamas officials have previously said they would not retaliate on Iran's behalf if Israel attacked the Islamic Republic's nuclear facilities - citing disagreements over Syria - they have previously been coy about funding from a country that is Shia and non-Arab.

Iran gave Hamas an estimated £13-15 million a month after its victory in the 2006 Palestinian legislative elections - enough to cover its governing budget, said Dr Adnan Abu Amer, assistant professor of political science at Gaza City's Ummah University.

Tehran still sends a "tiny amount" to maintain ties and keep its much-trumpeted support of the Palestinian cause alive, he said. But relations have been all but severed.

Hamas' bureau in Tehran, just off the city's main boulevard and long treated as a de facto embassy, no longer has a permanent representative and is run by a skeleton staff.

"The Iranian support for Assad was the kiss of death to the relationship," said Dr Abu Amer, who is close to Hamas. "Hamas has lost from the disagreement financially and military and so far, no-one has replaced the Iranian support.

"Iran has lost its influence not only in Gaza but in Palestine as a whole and across the Arab world because it backed the Assad regime. Iran successfully presented itself after the 1979 Islamic Revolution as the champion of the poor and the oppressed and an opponent of imperialism and American influence. They have lost in two years what they gained in 30 and I think it won't be properly repaired."

Ahmed Yousef, an adviser to Ismail Haniyeh, Hamas' prime minister in Gaza, called Iran's support for Mr Assad "shocking" and accused it of acting out of "sectarian" motives.

"We never expected that a country like Iran, which talked about oppressed people and dictatorial regimes, would stand behind a dictator like Assad who is killing his own people," he said. "To us, it shakes the basis of the Islamic principles that Iran has recited all these years after the Islamic Revolution."

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An organiation with a few thousand members at most does not equal the entire Palestinian people which number 15 million people or so if the diaspora is included. Besides Hamas only has power in tiny Gaza and no power in the West Bank which makes up the majority of the "Palestinian State".

Having said that then it's no secret that the Palestinian leadership have committed mistakes on this front in countries such as Lebanon, Jordan, Kuwait etc. Hopefully their leaders will learn.
 
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LOOL your extremists(together with your sunni terror groups Hamas think otherwise), they will kill any jew giving the chance/opportunity, to them they are all legitimate targets.:butcher::lol:

By the way its funny to hear that a holy book like the Quran will label members from another religion/ethnic group as ennemies for its followers. Strange indeed.lool Anyway Iran should keep it up its 'muslim superman' job.:enjoy: Tough its funny to read news like this from the new york times:


OP-ED CONTRIBUTOR
The Enemy of My Enemy Is Still My Enemy
By BERNARD HAYKEL

WITH Israel at war with Hezbollah, where, you might wonder, is Al Qaeda? From all appearances on the Web sites frequented by its sympathizers, which I frequently monitor, Al Qaeda is sitting, unhappily and uneasily, on the sidelines, watching a movement antithetical to its philosophy steal its thunder. That might sound like good news. But it is more likely an ominous sign.

Stephen Savage
Al Qaeda’s Sunni ideology regards Shiites as heretics and profoundly distrusts Shiite groups like Hezbollah. It was Al Qaeda that is reported to have given Sunni extremists in Iraq the green light to attack Shiite civilians and holy sites. A Qaeda recruiter I met in Yemen described the Shiites as “dogs and a thorn in the throat of Islam from the beginning of time.”
But now Hezbollah has taken the lead on the most incendiary issue for jihadis of all stripes: the fight against Israel.

Many Sunnis are therefore rallying to Hezbollah’s side, including the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt and Jordan. The Saudi cleric Salman al-Awda has defied his government’s anti-Hezbollah position, writing on his Web site that “this is not the time to express our differences with the Shiites because we are all confronted by our greater enemy, the criminal Jews and Zionists.”

For Al Qaeda, it is a time of panic. The group’s Web sites are abuzz with messages and questions about how to respond to Hezbollah’s success. One sympathizer asks whether, even knowing that the Shiites are traitors and the accomplices of the infidel Americans in Iraq, it is permissible to say a prayer for Hezbollah. He is told to curse Hezbollah along with Islam’s other enemies.
Several of Al Qaeda’s ideologues have issued official statements explaining Hezbollah’s actions and telling followers how to respond to them. The gist of their argument is that the Shiites are conspiring to destroy Islam and to resuscitate Persian imperial rule over the Middle East and ultimately the world. The ideologues label this effort the “Sassanian-Safavid conspiracy,” in reference to the Sassanians, a pre-Islamic Iranian dynasty, and to the Safavids, a Shiite dynasty that ruled Iran and parts of Iraq from 1501 till 1736.

They go on to argue that thanks to the United States (the leader of the Zionist-Crusader conspiracy), Iraq has been handed over to the Shiites, who are now wantonly massacring the country’s Sunnis. Syria is already led by a Shiite heretic, President Bashar al-Assad, whose policies harm the country’s Sunni majority.

Hezbollah, according to these analyses, seeks to dupe ordinary Muslims into believing that the Shiites are defending Islam’s holiest cause, Palestine, in order to cover for the wholesale Shiite alliance with the United States in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Ultimately, this theory goes, the Shiites will fail in their efforts because the Israelis and Americans will destroy them once their role in the broader
Zionist-Crusader conspiracy is accomplished. And then God will assure the success of the Sunni Muslims and the defeat of the Zionists and Crusaders.

In the meantime, no Muslim should be fooled by Hezbollah, whose members have never fought the infidel on any of the real battlefronts, like Afghanistan, Bosnia, Chechnya or Kashmir. The proper attitude for Muslims to adopt is to dissociate themselves completely from the Shiites.

This analysis — conspiratorial, bizarre and uncompelling, except to the most diehard radicals — signals an important defeat for Al Qaeda’s public relations campaign. The truth is that Al Qaeda has met a formidable challenge in Hezbollah and its charismatic leader, Sheik Hassan Nasrallah, who have made canny choices that appeal to Al Qaeda’s Sunni followers. Al Qaeda’s improbable conspiracy theory does little to counter these adavntages.

First, although Sheik Nasrallah wears the black turban and carries the title of “sayyid,” both of which identify him as a Shiite descendant of the Prophet Muhammad, he preaches a nonsectarian ideology and does not highlight his group’s Shiite identity. Hezbollah has even established an effective alliance with Hamas, a Sunni and Muslim Brotherhood organization.

Second, Hezbollah’s statements focus on the politics of resistance to occupation and invoke shared Islamic principles about the right to self-defense. Sheik Nasrallah is extremely careful to hew closely to the dictates of Islamic law in his military attacks. These include such principles as advance notice, discrimination in selecting targets and proportionality.

Finally, only Hezbollah has effectively defeated Israel (in Lebanon in 2000) and is now taking it on again, hitting Haifa and other places with large numbers of rockets — a feat that no Arab or Muslim power has accomplished since Israel’s
founding in 1948.

These are already serious selling points. And Hezbollah will score a major propaganda victory in the Muslim world if it simply remains standing in Lebanon after the present bout of warfare is over and maintains the relationships it is forging with Hamas and other Sunni Islamist organizations.

What will such a victory mean? Perhaps Hezbollah’s ascendancy among Sunnis will make it possible for Shiites and Sunnis to stop the bloodletting in Iraq — and to focus instead on their “real” enemies, namely the United States and Israel. Rumblings again:cheesy:st Israeli actions in Lebanon from both Shiites and Sunnis in Iraq already suggest such an outcome.

That may be good news for Iraqis, but it marks a dangerous turn for the West. And there are darker implications still. Al Qaeda, after all, is unlikely to take a loss of status lying down. Indeed, the rise of Hezbollah makes it all the more likely that Al Qaeda will soon seek to reassert itself through increased attacks on Shiites in Iraq and on Westerners all over the world — whatever it needs to do in order to regain the title of true defender of Islam.


Bernard Haykel, an associate professor of Islamic Studies at New York University, is the author of “Revival and Reform in Islam.”




This is an intereting article from the new york times few years ago, ut still relevant. All these was before Hezbollah and Irn intervened in Syria and the rise of ISIS though.


because the Palestinian are victim of child killer regime
if some one kill one or two person in your family (god forbid),What do you do?
you will do the same Thing (Usually) , Even if it is immoral........Bloody Revenge
well...... that's a sad part of every conflict

By the way killing civilians/children and POWs is forbidden in Islam
And anyone who does this sin .......will be burn in hell Whether he is Palestinian or Israeli
 
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There is an interesting article in the "WELT" today that says nobody can take protests of muslims against israel and for palestine serious anymore.

They rally mass demonstrations for evry palestinian killed from israel but stay silent while ISIS murders thousands of Palestinians now in Yarmuk, behead them and play soccer with their heads. The UN calls the recent events there as simpley "Heart of darkness".+

Yet you see not one comment about it from the muslim world. Where is Hamas while their fellow countrymen are being slaughtered? Where the typical mass rallies in Iran and Pakistan?

Of course evryone knew that the palestinian question is just used for political gains in the muslim world and nobody there gives a shit about them.

But its good that the recent acting of the muslim world finally shows it in public
generally agree with your thread but I have strong objection to your last sentence

where you are expressing gratitude over a human tragedy just because it shows the Muslims badly.
this my dear is called bigotry and thats what the terrorists, xenophobes and fascists feed on
 
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understand this kind of politics. It was invented from my nation. It is called Machiavellism.
Umm...Machiavellism was not invented in Italy. There have been similar works and treatises thousands of years before, in India, China and a few other places. Check out the works of Chanakya, especially his "Arthashastra".
 
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There is an interesting article in the "WELT" today that says nobody can take protests of muslims against israel and for palestine serious anymore.
Probably this one (Google translation):


Opinion
Comments
There are always two kinds of death

OPINION
YARMUK
11/04/15
Why Muslims do not protest this time?
The suffering of the Palestinians in the Yarmouk refugee camp cries to heaven. Except that most Arabs do not care. You just take care of Palestinian victims when Israelis are in the game.

  • There are two types of dead - those whose fate be exploited politically and their tragedy can mourn loudly, and those who are just died. In the Syrian Yarmouk this hypocrisy can currently observe particularly haunting. For months, Palestinian refugees there are gunned down, beaten and starved.

But neither from the Gaza Strip and the West Bank still one hears of mass demonstrations and calls to hasten the approximately 16,000 brothers and sisters to help fight in Yarmuk with death. That the Palestinians to otherwise be able to quickly all international fora - from the United Nations to the International Criminal Court - know how to use them to give their concerns force suspects anyone who remembers what happens when only a single Palestinian victims of the Israelis.

Why Hamas smuggles weapons into the neighboring country? The illicit trade in the opposite direction but works well? Why does not engage Hezbollah to rescue the trapped? Otherwise, she is also so quick to take the side of the Palestinian victims in Israel?



The eternal hypocrisy


For whatever reason finally find the Muslims in Germany no common day for a mass protest against the human rights violations that are happening in Syria? In the case of Gaza war, it still went well? The answers to all these questions is clear: The Mentioned is the fate of these people indifferent. Some of her death comes even benefit.

While the Syrian government it would be under their tyrants , get rid of the Palestinians, who have set themselves against them, the Shiite Hezbollah keeps their Syrian allies - and the Sunni and Christian Palestinians for a worthwhile goal. The majority of Muslims in Germany discharges rather turn their hatred of Jews and Israel, but to complain intra-Muslim war.

The fate of the Palestinians has always been taking care of most of them little.Sadly, this can be cold for many Arab governments find. Otherwise, it can not explain why there are Palestinian refugee camp nearly 70 years after escaping and partial expulsion of Palestinians from the Jewish state itself even in the Gaza Strip. Also Yarmuk existed for an eternity.

For what reason Arabs - otherwise the Palestinians - since 1957 have to live in this Syrian Arab refugee camp, opens only one who knows the story of hypocrisy and heartlessness. It will even now do not turn into its opposite. Yarmuk remains the battlefield - not the devil, but man's .

But its good that the recent acting of the muslim world finally shows it in public
where you are expressing gratitude over a human tragedy just because it shows the Muslims badly. this my dear is called bigotry and thats what the terrorists, xenophobes and fascists feed on
Explain, please.
 
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Someone should explain how ISIS was able to get 100s of fighters in Yarmuk Camp when allbof the surrounding area is controled by regime and militias allied with it? How ISIS is able to survive this long while geographically surrounded and supposedly having no supply line?
 
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Someone should explain how ISIS was able to get 100s of fighters in Yarmuk Camp when allbof the surrounding area is controled by regime and militias allied with it? How ISIS is able to survive this long while geographically surrounded and supposedly having no supply line?

Al-Assad is punishing the Palestinian community in Damascus for siding against his barrel bombings and brutal rule. Before ISIS arrived on the scene he and his regime were starving the Palestinians.

Syrian forces 'committing war crimes by starving Palestinian camp' - Telegraph

I did not invent this.

Those are the words of Amnesty International.

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Those as you can see are all ordinary people, elders, children, women etc.

It's a giant mess really. Getting tiring/pathetic is it not?
 
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first they are much more non Iranians having said this bullshit and having supported the radicals in Syria for exemple in this forum.
one Iranian doesn't represent Iranians . i understand it is convenient to believe ultra ultras represent Iranians but they are not, by far.
We have more Jews than any country in ME except Israel.

Personnaly i am not against Israel except their blind perception of Iran and Iranians .
We have stupid radicals in Iran but far less than in Jordan , KSA of course, and so.

Iran has always been anti "israel" (zionist is the propaganda word) since Khomeiny.
for me a stupid choice. we can totally disagree and condemn actions by Israel but we still can accept the fact they are a nation. And our worst ennemy is clearly by far KSA right now: supporting radicals , doing propaganda against Iran, supporting MeK, asking USA to attack Iran (wikileaks )
Indeed the best to do is ignore one country in the world: KSA until they are not led by fanatics. no other country is ennemy except for the radicals in Iran.

Agree, Iran's mullah's and radicals have been the biggest enemy of Iran. , not Israel not Saudi Arabia. They are the reason has been sanctioned/isolated for so long. Again relying on ideology/religion for shaping your foreign policy is always wrong and never serves a country's interests, since it makes people take decisions that are contrary to their own national interests..china under Mao learned that the hard way. :bounce: . I could be an even better foreign policy maker for Iran than their current ayatollahs.lool

Al-Assad is punishing the Palestinian community in Damascus for siding against his barrel bombings and brutal rule. Before ISIS arrived on the scene he and his regime were starving the Palestinians.
aI did not invent this.

Those are the words of Amnesty International.

Those as you can see are all ordinary people, elders, children, women etc.

Agree, Assad regime as well has committed war crimes obviously, since this is now a brutal civil war not a revolution. However, I don't think me myself i will allow foreigners whom I provided and refuge in my house to side with my enemies- against me, do you expect me to buy them lollipops as a thank you? Lool :lol: Every action has consequences, so they have to assume it. Once such things happen(civil war ) its better you remain silent/neutral, else you invite yourself for more trouble. Guess their sectarian sunni allegiance was too strong to resist, so they had to side with their sunni rebel groups/terrorists. :devil:
 
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