There was probably a small window with Vajpayee, who played spoilsport ?
If you mean the Agra summit, the story is well known. It is not Kashmir or territory that is the problem. Even if Pakistan gave up Azad Kashmir or lost it in a war there still would be no peace. You have a deep state domestic constituency that co-opts Pakistan, Kashmir, Muslim
, Indian Muslims, Revenge for 1000 years of oppression... etc. into one twisted logic that thrives on hatred. Peace will kill your constituency. It is not territory you crave but the obliteration of a people who populate it. If India had neutron bomb technology to kill all the people of Pakistan, and leave the territory unscathed it would be used.
Your country is riding a tiger of fascist communal hysteria that will not end well. We have no illusions about peace with India. Trust us.. we know how difficult it is to cage the genie of extremism, once it is out of the bottle. We are still wrestling with it.
In the past through Hindu Muslim unity, we survived the repeated Mongol invasions over a century , which was the greatest threat our South Asian civilization had ever faced. We will destroy that civilization which we preserved and nurtured in a very short time.
Wish you luck in our mutual "next thousand year" war. Let's hope it does last that long.
We hope at least one of our nations survives...anyone.
Why should I care who it is offensive to, much less the leadership on Israel lol ? .. just a random guy on a forum.
Nothing's changed for Palestine, agree, only that more and more Arab states have started looking beyond Palestine and building bridges with the Israelis. Peace is a good thing.
Ironically, the Arab and Palestinian woes are self inflicted because they staged the Great Arab Revolt in 1916 putting their parochial, ethnic tribal chauvinism at the disposal of British Imperialism to be used against the Ottoman Empire. The collapse of the 600 year Ottoman Empire and the emergence of Zionism, displacement of European Jews brought about the establishment of Israel. Middle Eastern ethnic Jews, Muslims and Christians had been getting along fairly well for 600 years.
So callous as it may sound the Arabs (
all Arabs which includes, all faiths from Chaldean Christians, Druze, Alawites, Hashmis ) brought this on themselves. I still think that the generation of Palestinians who got displaced had no part in the breakup of the Ottoman Empire and didn't deserve the fate. Along with the Jews of the region the Palestinians have an equal right to the land. Still the differences are over territory not religion.
Of course Peace is a Good Thing ! This
will be resolved.
I am more hopeful of peace between Arabs and Jews than I am hopeful of peace between Hindus and Muslims.
What good does it do for Pakistani state to continue denying the legitimacy of Israel ? They're not even in our region ffs.
In fact Pakistan was on the verge of recognizing Israel way back in 1948.
There were still some old fashioned die hard Khilafat movement types who deplored the Arab betrayal of the Ottoman Empire ( an issue that deeply polarized the Indian domestic political scene in the 1920s). Israel made an outreach to Pakistan highlighting the founding of both nations as homelands for peoples fleeing persecution. David Ben Gurion wrote to Jinnah in May 1948. Relations were nearly established by 1949 and Israel sought Pakistan's help in arranging the passage of Jews from Central Asia ( then under the Soviet Union) to Israel via Afghanistan.
Pakistan declined under pressure from the Arab lobby citing the exodus of Palestinians as a reason.
Pakistan
should recognize Israel. Pakistan's two most important allies, China and Turkey both have diplomatic relations with Israel. This will dispel Israel's fear of being unwittingly dragged into a nuclear showdown between India and Pakistan.
It is finished, how long do you think this farmer thing is going to linger ? Clever bastards, the BJP under the wily leadership of Amit Shah, might even withdraw for sake of optics but will sneak in reforms in subtle ways and get the job done anyway. You watch.
The farmer's movement is not a Khalistan movement. The farmers are masquerading as Khalistanis, thinking the government and media will brand them as terrorists so they couid polarize opinion, and also play the victim card of unfair branding. This way any Sikh or Jat farmer will lambaste the BJP government of "divisive politics ", and the stance will attract more anti-government allies. The farmers are clever b***$tards too.
The residual Khalistan movement has more sense than to expose it self in India. Its base is tiny to non-existent operationally, though the psychological sympathy is there. The Khalistani bases are in Canada and UK mostly, which is why Gen. K.S. Brar was attacked when he visited London.
Maybe I missed it, but has Jaishankar or anyone of significance in an official capacity in the Indian government made statements about the Uighur thing in China ? Arnab and Jee news etc don't count among said people of significance.
No, India wouldn't dare make an official statement on Uighurs. It can make plenty of statements only on Baluchistan. The response from China would be overwhelming with direct support for Naga, Mizo, and Manipuri insurgencies. The Arnab Goswami's can be left to fill in the narrative.
Anyway, im not being serious a lot of the times here, just looking for people's reactions throwing things out there. (a white hat hacker like good troll)
dunia gai tel lene, apni life jio, be nice to people you meet, even try being nice online anonymous mode mein (tough around these parts for us Indians, still fun to hang out). Aap to zabardast well researched bandey ho, I'd defer to other more cerebral members here from our team to take you head on in a serious debate.
peace out ✌
Thank you for your compliments. Enjoy interacting as always.
✌Peace !
. Wonder why ?
