The Reason IAF Failed - BS Dhanoa

[Mav3rick]

DG ISPR has already clarified, there was no second pilot and the information fed to him on that day which he announced regarding the second pilot in custody was incorrect.

And you accept that? An organization that prides itself in professionalism and meticulous verification made such a massive blunder?

 

[Pakistan Space Agency]

Please watch from 3:58 onwards DG ISPR clarifying that he assumed two pilots were captured because two aircrafts had been shot downed. However, it was Abhinandan's capture that was reported to him from two sources.

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[macnurv]

The mystery of the 2nd pilot HAS to be solved. And a voluntary official audit count of F-16's must be carried out by neutral assessors with a challenge to IAF to do the same with SU-30MKIs.

And what exactly will that achieve? Do you think that India will stop with the lies? By doing such we will again hand over the power to set narrative, Pakistan needs no such thing or exercise to prove Indian non-sense. Its your choice to accept Pakistans POV, even after all the prove that had been provided by PAF and you are still a skeptic then it is your problem not that of PAF or Pakistan Armed forces.

Which one exactly, there were so many articles on the engagement b/w PAF & IAF. And I am NOT calling anyone a liar, I merely want proof before I accept the events as described by either side.

And how many of those so called analysis are written by neutral observers? Truth is the first casuilty of war but Indians had out done this saying, they started with 300 dead terrorists and then crossed 400, yet there was no prove of that. Again its your choice to not accept all that had been presented to you by PAF, yet you still insist otherwise. This is your problem not that of the whole country.

 

[Mav3rick]

And what exactly will that achieve? Do you think that India will stop with the lies? By doing such we will again hand over the power to set narrative, Pakistan needs no such thing or exercise to prove Indian non-sense. Its your choice to accept Pakistans POV, even after all the prove that had been provided by PAF and you are still a skeptic then it is your problem not that of PAF or Pakistan Armed forces.



And how many of those so called analysis are written by neutral observers? Truth is the first casuilty of war but Indians had out done this saying, they started with 300 dead terrorists and then crossed 400, yet there was no prove of that. Again its your choice to not accept all that had been presented to you by PAF, yet you still insist otherwise. This is your problem not that of the whole country.

How do we prove 1 Billion Indians to be liars? With proof, undeniable, neutrally assessed proof and evidence.

 

[macnurv]

How do we prove 1 Billion Indians to be liars? With proof, undeniable, neutrally assessed proof and evidence.

So in your mind the only way to validate truth is the number of people believing in it! As I said earlier this is your problem not PAF or rest of Pakistan. Feel free to believe what you wish, enough evidence had been presented by us. One advise stop watching Indian media, if you wish to remain sane.

 

[SIPRA]

How do we prove 1 Billion Indians to be liars? With proof, undeniable, neutrally assessed proof and evidence.

This is war. Misstatements, concealment, subterfuge and deception are essential ingedients of war, as are inadvertant mistakes and errors. Try to live with it. Regarding Feb 26/27, Pakistan's narrative as far more stronger and well founded, than the Indian one. That is why, Indian public is quite on the back foot.

 

[SingHee]

The incompetent air chief mentioned night time operations by the U.S. during the Gulf War as a point of reference, and also insisted that apparent superior equipment made his operation just as, while implying more so, effective. However, he conveniently left out the part that day raids are much more difficult, and therefore provide a clearer image of overall operating capability of pilots and mission command.

The Gulf War provided the opportunity to see both the extent and limitations of
United States air power, particularly when applied at night. As an F-15E “Strike Eagle”
instructor pilot and mission commander, it became obvious that some missions, though
risky at night, would have been significantly more perilous in daylight

Night air combat: a united states military-technical revolution

The only other part worth mentioning is about how India apparently caught Pakistan by surprise in 1965, which is again an opinion that ignores the existence of tactical or strategic realities at the time. Of course, Pakistan must have learnt from that experience, and would therefore appropriately adjust future operations while staying within their capabilities.

Personally, my opinion is that Pakistan simply didn't expect India to throw away so many human lives by opening up a front on the international border where there was little or limited chance of success. The lesson being that India is capable and willing to throw away human life without conscience, and this is clearly in line with their now apparent apartheid system.

There will always be some differences in capabilities, but operational effectiveness depends on many factors. In reality, all we're getting throughout is demented logic based on conceptualised superiority, and assumed past successes that were unavoidable or no longer relevant. On the other hand, the current situation is clear to see based on evidence.

 

[delta2]

Pakistan did not use any F-16 jets that day. The confusion about which jets were used is intentional.

Most of the world powers however have the information about what Pakistan did that day, and how it was done. Everyone that matters knows Pakistan did not use any F-16 jets.

As I said it before, many entities went into complete shock that day.

Pakistan wasn't and isn't supposed to have any capabilities to jam, out maneuver and defeat India's foreign backed aerial defenses. This wasn't what India was promised. The Indians were angry at many countries that day.

 

[Ultima Thule]

First of all, let me thank you for your efforts and all the gestures. They were very helpful for me when I was trying to get a sense of you.

Please search for US sources, official sources, which state that the US conducted a count of our F-16's. You will NOT find any, there was no official US count of our F-16's.

As I said above, there is NO evidence that Pentagon or any other US agency conducted any count of our F-16's. It is just 1 article by a person mentioning unnamed Pentagon officials, how authentic.

And corespondent of Pentagon for Foreign Policy is not official source to you, and what do you want, wanna hear from the mouth of Mr, President of UNITED STATES or DEFENSE SECRETORY OF UNITED STATES then i have to sorry to you, this job is not for them, so you believe that our F-16 was shot down by IAF MIG-21 Bison, Please explain me @Mav3rick

 

[Mav3rick]

And corespondent of Pentagon for Foreign Policy is not official source to you, and what do you want, wanna hear from the mouth of Mr, President of UNITED STATES or DEFENSE SECRETORY OF UNITED STATES then i have to sorry to you, this job is not for them, so you believe that our F-16 was shot down by IAF MIG-21 Bison, Please explain me @Mav3rick

Mate, I don't know how old you are and how much you understand things but I am increasingly getting impatient at your blind trust in anything that is in your favor. Foreign Policy is a magazine and the writer who wrote the article is an independent writer. Please learn to differentiate between official statements and articles printed in magazines.

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

The worst part is Pak has to fight these folks with such a girlish voice!!! Something is very much like a Na-Mert in their postures, body language, talking, presenting ideas etc.....

 

[Ultima Thule]

Mate, I don't know how old you are and how much you understand things but I am increasingly getting impatient at your blind trust in anything that is in your favor. Foreign Policy is a magazine and the writer who wrote the article is an independent writer. Please learn to differentiate between official statements and articles printed in magazines.

do you have comprehension problem i am not talking about any magazine or something But Sara Linger A CORESPONDENT OF PENTAGON FOR FOREIGN POLICY in her twitter account she said no PAF F-16 were Missing on 27 FEB, i suspect how old you're not try to understand in simple words @Mav3rick

 

[Xestan]

His laugh is so annoying. Also, if H-4 imagery is outdated, he might want to show us footage from his weapons.

 

[Mav3rick]

do you have comprehension problem i am not talking about any magazine or something But Sara Linger A CORESPONDENT OF PENTAGON FOR FOREIGN POLICY in her twitter account she said no PAF F-16 were Missing on 27 FEB, i suspect how old you're not try to understand in simple words @Mav3rick

I believe you are focusing more on your dislike of my position vis-a-vis the matter at hand.

I have no idea who Sara Linger is and I have not come across any official US statement released through their official press release. However, there is a piece by a "Lara Seligman" on Forign Policy Publication on the count of F-16's being conducted where she refers to unnamed sources. Again, nothing official.

 

[Ultima Thule]

I believe you are focusing more on your dislike of my position vis-a-vis the matter at hand.

I have no idea who Sara Linger is and I have not come across any official US statement released through their official press release. However, there is a piece by a "Lara Seligman" on Forign Policy Publication on the count of F-16's being conducted where she refers to unnamed sources. Again, nothing official.

What is her name i can't remember correctly but go to her Twitter account she is current Pentagon correspondent for foreign policy,why do you live in your delusional world,so you think/believe our f16 shot down by IAF be real don't live in your delusional world any more @Mav3rick