The real solution to the Afghanistan problem

[Azadkashmir]

we will smash indians against boulders if the come for ajk.

 

[lastofthepatriots]

we will smash indians against boulders if the come for ajk.

That’s why I think we should hand over AJK to the bhartoads…

Once Mirpuris are unleashed on the bhartis, these gangu ram’s might become civilized…

It will be like Leicester but on a grand scale.

 

[hussain0216]

Mallapuram bhi le jao while you're at it

and the Lakshadweep (full muslim majority)

and a few neighborhoods in all our major cities lol

Mini Pakistans inside India, as India turns hindutva you will see these areas expand and become bastions for Indian Muslims

 

[-=virus=-]

Mini Pakistans inside India, as India turns hindutva you will see these areas expand and become bastions for Indian Muslims

More kebabchis and puncture wallas, np.

 

[hydrabadi_arab]

This thread shows how uninformed and devoid of ground realities most of the keyboard warriors are. Terrorism is something we exported to Afghanistan. Anyone seen pics of 60s and 70s Afghanistan? They were liberal and we made 70,000 medrassas around the border areas, trained and brainwashed mujahideen and religious extremists and now keyboard warriors here crying about terrorism. You cannot fix a problem untill u really understand it. People of Afghanistan see taliban as Pakistani proxies and those proxies play gimmicks to show they hate Pakistan. Just like PPP here doing drama baazi to show they r anti india or something oir army does to show as if they hate india.
That map is also stupid because the guy doesnt even knkw what he is talking about, he doesn't even know demographics of Afghanistan and drawing maps while jumping in his chair. The south, west and east of Afghanistan is all pashtuns, how will u divide them? The other ethnicities are mostly in north west and central Afghanistan.

Actually its you who don't know reality of Afghanistan, that map if anything exagerate pashtun majority areas. Only Tajiks/hazaras see taliban proxie of Pakistan and that map will make them very happy.

It will also afghan pashtun delusions of pashtunistan once only border they will have is with Pakistan.

 

[hydrabadi_arab]

Biggest problem with @TNT like pashtun nationalists is they blame Islam for taliban primitive behavior while in reality the reason taliban is banning women education is pashtunwali. They bring bad name to Islam all over the world. Making it seem like what they are doing is Islamic and rest of the islamic world is going against Islam by allowing women to educate.

 

[Mirzali Khan]

Biggest problem with @TNT like pashtun nationalists is they blame Islam for taliban primitive behavior while in reality the reason taliban is banning women education is pashtunwali. They bring bad name to Islam all over the world. Making it seem like what they are doing is Islamic and rest of the islamic world is going against Islam by allowing women to educate.

He's not even a Pashtun nationalist. He's a PTI supporter.

 

[hydrabadi_arab]

He's not even a Pashtun nationalist. He's a PTI supporter.

Thats not saying much, its the content of his posts that matter.

 

[Mirzali Khan]

Thats not saying much, its the content of his posts that matter.

Nothing of his posts say anything Pashtun Nationalist.

Defending Afghans ≠ Pashtun Nationalism

 

[hydrabadi_arab]

Nothing of his posts say anything Pashtun Nationalist.

Defending Afghans ≠ Pashtun Nationalism

Defending afghan crimes by putting blame on madrassa/islamic education supposedly funded by Pakistan, as if madrassa only came after 1980's. Indirectly implying islam is the reason otherwise afghans were very liberal. This BS will fly to white western trash who he want to please with his Afghan naked women of 60's liberal BS but we know the ground reality.

Thats typical pashtun nationalist narrative of blaming Islam for crimes comitted by pashtun walis. Anyone who does that is kaffir.

 

[Mirzali Khan]

Defending afghan crimes by putting blame on madrassa/islamic education supposedly funded by Pakistan, as if madrassa only came after 1980's. Indirectly implying islam is the reason otherwise afghans were very liberal. This BS will fly to white western trash who he want to please with his Afghan naked women of 60's liberal BS but we know the ground reality.

Thats typical pashtun nationalist narrative of blaming Islam for crimes comitted by pashtun walis. Anyone who does that is kaffir.

Pashtun nationalists are also Islamist so idk where you are going where that.

Just say liberal/communist narrative as they parrot that.

 

[Indos]

The problem in Afghanistan is their refusal to accept the international border and decades long support for terrorism in Pakistan. The assumed solution was to put a friendly government in Afghanistan, but that has proven more difficult than expected, or even close to impossible. The reason being, hate for Pakistan in Afghanistan is ingrained deep into their psyche, as hate for India is in Pakistan. And their desire to conquer KP/Balochistan is just as strong as ours to take Kashmir. This is something which will not be disappearing anytime soon, and we shouldn't bet on it. They may be friends today, but then enemies tomorrow (in the future when developed).

This brings me to my point that Afghanistan is too unreliable and a security risk for Pakistan in the long-term, you can never have a pro-Pakistan government for too long. What if they are friendly until they build an economy and military then do the same thing as 1947? Invasion and more concrete support for terrorism? We cannot risk a 2-front-war.

Dividing Afghanistan by giving Khorosan freedom is the solution, and most importantly it is a long term solution. The newer and smaller Afghanistan state won't have the potential to rival us, regardless of how much they develop due to it's smaller size, tiny population and land mass. This makes it easily managable - even if it is staunchly against Pakistan.

Also they may begin to focus their chauvinistic expansism on the new border with Khorosan, so it will decrease focus on us by splitting it between both Khorosan and Pakistan's borders, and we can have joint operations to control terror elements. Khorosan may even be used as a medium to control the terrorism from smaller Afghanistan which gives it international support and purpose.

This would also help the Tajiks and Hazara populations as they have historically and today face ethnic genocide and persecution in that country by Afghans, and still do to this day, their nationalism is rising and if we ignite Khorosani nationalism and provide support, we can give them freedom and secure our safety for the long term.

It would also be good payback against Afghans who dream of dividing our country.

@Areesh @Mrc @Maula Jatt @villageidiot @Menace2Society

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Pakistan is probably too broke to do this though, and likely won't have the support of other powers who may staunchly work against it! Although it should work to secure the safety of Pakistan on a long-term basis.

China would also significantly benefit as Tajiks/Hazaras are more progressive and not terror-prone, they'll be receptive to diplomacy and economic co-operation. And terrorism would significantly decrease in the entire region and be easily managed. It would prevent spill-over into Xinjiang completely!

If you want to decrease Irànian influence in new Khorosan, make it a sunni state and remind them that we can also retaliate just as we always have.

Your idea is dangerous, it can create long war and destroy Pakistan economy if this idea is followed by Stupid Leader. Dont you think that posting this idea alone can make you get huge sins ? You have made an effort, not inside your mind anymore, meaning in Islam your writing has already passed the requirement to be judged by God.

By understanding the outcome that this can lead to many deaths among Muslims and Non Muslims, economic destruction of Pakistan and Afghanistan, then I would think that this could be regarded as a major sin that you have made

Communism is also first introduced in the form of idea by Karl Max in German that later is followed by Russians that can make the idea become reality

 

[Erieye]

Your idea is dangerous, it can create long war and destroy Pakistan economy if this idea is followed by Stupid Leader. Dont you think that posting this idea alone can make you get huge sins ? You have made an effort, not inside your mind anymore, meaning in Islam your writing has already passed the requirement to be judged by God.

By understanding the outcome that this can lead to many deaths among Muslims and Non Muslims, economic destruction of Pakistan and Afghanistan, then I would think that this could be regarded as a major sin that you have made

Communism is also first introduced in the form of idea by Karl Max in German that later is followed by Russians that can make the idea become reality

Where did he mention anything about communism?

Also judging by Afghanistan's history he's completely right, they hate and butcher each other, so that does seem like a valid solution to prevent any further blood shed permanently.

But you're right about Pakistan's economic capacity to sustain such a movement, it would probably require the support of China they may be onboard for due to reasons stated but ultimately their preferences are unknown.

 

[TheSolution]

Your idea is dangerous, it can create long war and destroy Pakistan economy if this idea is followed by Stupid Leader. Dont you think that posting this idea alone can make you get huge sins ? You have made an effort, not inside your mind anymore, meaning in Islam your writing has already passed the requirement to be judged by God.

By understanding the outcome that this can lead to many deaths among Muslims and Non Muslims, economic destruction of Pakistan and Afghanistan, then I would think that this could be regarded as a major sin that you have made

Communism is also first introduced in the form of idea by Karl Max in German that later is followed by Russians that can make the idea become reality

My solution is to permanently put an end to the bloodshed in the region, the way it's going right now it won't stop until many groups are genocided into the future at least in Afghanistan.

I understand your concern about the economy and I agree, it's likely not something Pakistan can fund at all in a sustained long-term manner. It would probably need a world power on board like China and while it could be beneficial to China, it's hard to know their true preference.

But I think China severely underestimates the stability in Afghanistan and how long it could last, and this could bring stability and peace especially in the Khorosan region who are generally progressive and would be much more receptive to Chinese co-operation.

 

[Muhammad Saftain Anjum]

How Afghanistan was created by God?