The quest of the ultra religious right and liberal left to destroy Pakistan

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Can we not abuse our own lads - stick to Indians instead.

Agreed. Will do.

 

[El Sidd]

What are the thoughts of you guys?

I believe you will graduate from the EDL university with flying green and white colors.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

I believe you will graduate from the EDL university with flying green and white colors.

Make it PDL.............

 

[airmarshal]

Well lets start from the media. Its way to free in Pakistan to be bought easily by our enemies. The EU Disinfo Lab is a dossier like Panama Papers. Its a one off opportunity to flush media people who promote anti Pakistan narrative and foreign funded NGOs. Both work hand in hand to create instability and keep nation on the boil.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Well lets start from the media. Its way to free in Pakistan to be bought easily by our enemies. The EU Disinfo Lab is a dossier like Panama Papers. Its a one off opportunity to flush media people who promote anti Pakistan narrative and foreign funded NGOs. Both work hand in hand to create instability and keep nation on the boil.

Problem is, we do NOTHING about it despite the overwhelming evidence. We accept too much flak for NOTHING. About time we started fighting for Pakistan and ALL Pakistanis regardless of religion or personal belief.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

I'm starting to lean towards NOT recognizing Israel as we will gain NOTHING from it. Like we gained NOTHING from the WOT 2001-2018. However, if the Israelis are prepared to give us the latest American military hardware including 350 F-35s then yes we should recognise Israel.

 

[EasyNow]

Pakistan should follow the path Turkey took in Erdogans early years - namely 'zero problems with neighbours'

The policy that worked for China, Turkey, Bangladesh and many others. Instead Pakistan is constantly making enemies, taking ideological positions instead of logical ones. Once you become powerful like China or Turkey, that is when you can get ideological.

Pakistan is so well placed in the world geographically and politically, they could have made money from everyone. USA, China, Middle East, Afghanistan and India all need Pakistan - yet you have managed to take zero benefit from it. All these countries would pay over the odds, to retain good relations with Pakistan - instead you sell yourself cheaply to people who don't give a damn about you.

 

[EasyNow]

This is a bullshit analogy and train of thought. Nobody is expected of you to serve anyone but it is expected of you to help your brothers of the faith this is the requirement and you owe nobody anything else except that. Example if Saudi Arabia or Gulf were in trouble it will become fard upon you to enter and assist them

Following your train of thought, why don't all Muslim countries offer each other visa free travel? Maybe Pakistan should open its doors fully to Afghanistan? Is that not a legitimate 'need of brothers'?

Or is your help limited to poor Muslim countries fighting for rich ones only?

Palestine has a population of 5million people - in Pakistan 40m people are malnourished. So what kind of caring are you talking about?

Your entire argument is so stupid and naive. Use your logic rather than your emotions - if you are for Muslims than do what helps them the most - make Pakistans economy better.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Following your train of thought, why don't all Muslim countries offer each other visa free travel? Maybe Pakistan should open its doors fully to Afghanistan? Is that not a legitimate 'need of brothers'?

Or is your 'help' limited to poor Muslim countries fighting for rich ones only?

Palestine has a population of 5million people - in Pakistan 40m people are malnourished. So what kind of caring are you taking about?

Your entire argument is so stupid and naive. Use your logic rather than your emotions - if you are for Muslims than do what helps them the most - make Pakistans economy better.

Even Somalia doesn't have as many starving as Pakistan does. The so-called "oppressed" Palestinians have a FAR greater standard of living compared to Pakistanis. In fact the gdp per capita for the Palestinians is MORE than DOUBLE that for Pakistanis:

Countries by GDP (nominal) per capita 2022 - StatisticsTimes.com

GDP (nominal) per capita of 195 countries by IMF. Changes in gdp per capita and their respective ranking of economies. Data from World bank includes gdp and year estimated for.

m.statisticstimes.com

State of Palestine - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[Unite & Defend]

Law & Order in Pakistan is a joke - the country needs to get its shit together and toughen-up.

Today I show a video of women in Pakistan slapping a Police officer and not just once. The police officers facial expressions looked to me like he is used to being a bit.h for public amusement. I was shocked - they all looked so pathetic. Another officer attempted to arrest one of her friends and looked to be doing a horrible job at that to. Embarrassing!

@PAKISTANFOREVER - I'm telling you mate, there was nothing religious about her; I think she was a little tipsy too.

The point I'm making is governance is shocking in Pakistan, their so many loopholes. Pakistans system was not designed to create the right levels of deterrence amongst the public and other organised groups that arerequired. This has now led to what we all see today; extremist groups from ((BOTH ends)) taking advantage of the environment leading to terrorism, treachery, crime, poverty and so on.

We need strong Administrators in power ONLY - Unfortunately, this process will take ages.

Strong Governance/Strong Military equals a functioning/viable economy. We should now be heading that way; long road still.

 

[masterchief_mirza]

Law & Order in Pakistan is a joke - the country needs to get its shit together and toughen-up.

Today I show a video of women in Pakistan slapping a Police officer and not just once. The police officers facial expressions looked to me like he is used to being a bit.h for public amusement. I was shocked - they all looked so pathetic. Another officer attempted to arrest one of her friends and looked to be doing a horrible job at that to. Embarrassing!

@PAKISTANFOREVER - I'm telling you mate, there was nothing religious about her; I think she was a little tipsy too.

The point I'm making is governance is shocking in Pakistan, their so many loopholes. Pakistans system was not designed to create the right levels of deterrence amongst the public and other organised groups that arerequired. This has now led to what we all see today; extremist groups from ((BOTH ends)) taking advantage of the environment leading to terrorism, treachery, crime, poverty and so on.

We need strong Administrators in power ONLY - Unfortunately, this process will take ages.

Strong Governance/Strong Military equals a functioning/viable economy. We should now be heading that way; long road still.

Solid post. Our biggest problem is the sense of entitlement of Pakistanis.

Ask not what your country can do for you...etc

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Law & Order in Pakistan is a joke - the country needs to get its shit together and toughen-up.

Today I show a video of women in Pakistan slapping a Police officer and not just once. The police officers facial expressions looked to me like he is used to being a bit.h for public amusement. I was shocked - they all looked so pathetic. Another officer attempted to arrest one of her friends and looked to be doing a horrible job at that to. Embarrassing!

@PAKISTANFOREVER - I'm telling you mate, there was nothing religious about her; I think she was a little tipsy too.

The point I'm making is governance is shocking in Pakistan, their so many loopholes. Pakistans system was not designed to create the right levels of deterrence amongst the public and other organised groups that arerequired. This has now led to what we all see today; extremist groups from ((BOTH ends)) taking advantage of the environment leading to terrorism, treachery, crime, poverty and so on.

We need strong Administrators in power ONLY - Unfortunately, this process will take ages.

Strong Governance/Strong Military equals a functioning/viable economy. We should now be heading that way; long road still.

EXACTLY!!!!.............We need to solve THESE problems FIRST and FOREMOST before we start crying for those whose standard of living is more than twice better than ours and who also don't give a damn about Pakistan and Pakistanis. We Pakistan are not even an AFTERTHOUGHT for the Palestinians and Arabs.


PS Had she slapped an Arab or American police officer, they would have shot her dead.

 

[EasyNow]

Even Somalia doesn't have as many starving as Pakistan does. The so-called "oppressed" Palestinians have a FAR greater standard of living compared to Pakistanis. In fact the gdp per capita for the Palestinians is MORE than DOUBLE for that of Pakistanis:

Countries by GDP (nominal) per capita 2022 - StatisticsTimes.com

GDP (nominal) per capita of 195 countries by IMF. Changes in gdp per capita and their respective ranking of economies. Data from World bank includes gdp and year estimated for.

m.statisticstimes.com

State of Palestine - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

That is absolutely true. Most Palestinians live a better quality of life than poor Asians. If it's about justice, poor Asians suffer more injustice every single day than Palestinians.

The number of Palestinians killed in 50 years, is less than killed by TTP in Pakistan in 5 years.

The comparison is a total joke, but for these people Pakistan etc are not cool enough to campaign for. They'd rather let their own countrymen starve so they can look good as an SJW online.

 

[El Sidd]

Make it PDL.............

No force can undo Pakistan.

So it don't need your white knight defense.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

No force can undo Pakistan.

So it don't need your white knight defense.

But I'm still ready to serve my race and nation nevertheless.