The number zero was invented in Ancient Pakistan

[Beacon]

Whatever happened before 1947 is common to both india & pakistan...

This post will run into infinity as both sides are arguing their points over nothing (0)

 

[AUz]

Well,Guys nothing is there to fight over '0'.Science is not a 'property' of anyone.Arabs used 0 as 'base' which is more important.( for some people its may not).All martial civilizations like Greek,Islamic Civilization or Early European civilization did contributed to Science alot. The Father of Algebra ,Al-Khwarizmi (some say Diophantus??) had some influence of Indian mathematicians.Europeans had great influence of Arabs/Persians Scientists/Mathematicians.
The fact is now Indus valley civilization is a part of Pakistan but it wasn't before 1947. Who ever invented zero was Neither a Pakistani nor Indian

 

[Agnostic_Indian]

Whatever happened before 1947 is common to both india & pakistan...

This post will run into infinity as both sides are arguing their points over nothing (0)

Well said what ever good and bad happened before 1947 was common to todays india and pakistan..only thing is nobody should pick and choose.

 

[justanobserver]

The fact is now Indus valley civilization is a part of Pakistan but it wasn't before 1947. Who ever invented zero was Neither a Pakistani nor Indian

1.The Zero was invented in Gupta empire , how the hell does Indus valley come in this picture ?

2. The Indus valley civilization was dead at that period. Because it's people moved into the Indo Gangetic plains (changing weather patterns) !!

 

[Kinetic]

The fact is now Indus valley civilization is a part of Pakistan but it wasn't before 1947.

1) There is no Indus valley civilization now than how it is part of Pakistan?!!!! You can say that many of the sites of IVC are in Pakistan now.

Who ever invented zero was Neither a Pakistani nor Indian

2) Isn't the people of this land was Indian before 1947?? In 1947 India just got independence. But India and Indians were there for thousands of years.

 

[Rafi]

1) There is no Indus valley civilization now than how it is part of Pakistan?!!!! You can say that many of the sites of IVC are in Pakistan now.


2) Isn't the people of this land was Indian before 1947?? In 1947 India just got independence. But India and Indians were there for thousands of years.

There was no concept of indianess, People were Punjabi, Sindhi, or their religious or caste affiliation were what defined them.

The Indus based people had little or no contact with bharat - which was based around the ganges. People in Ancient Pakistan, began to convert to Islam, through the efforts of peace Muslim Sufi preachers, it was a gradual process, and was largely complete a few hundred years ago.

In fact bharati civilisation is something that we Pakistanis have no claim on, it is what the modern state of india is based on. And therefore all the Indus based culture is distinct from modern india.

 

[justanobserver]

The Indus based people had little or no contact with bharat - which was based around the ganges. People in Ancient Pakistan, began to convert to Islam, through the efforts of peace Muslim Sufi preachers, it was a gradual process, and was largely complete a few hundred years ago.

In fact bharati civilisation is something that we Pakistanis have no claim on, it is what the modern state of india is based on. And therefore all the Indus based culture is distinct from modern india.

Nice propaganda you guys feed on.

Indus Valley Culture (Harappa)
c.3300 - c.1700 BC

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c.1800 BC


In this century the cities slip into terminal decline. No one cause seems responsible, but a combination of climate change, over-cultivation, and changes in the course of the Indus may contribute. The weakening of the monsoon is probably the most important single cause. Scribes in Sumer record that rich shipments suddenly cease at around 1800 BC.


c.1700 BC


The Indus culture dies out. Its people move east into Rajasthan and the Ganges watershed. Others head south to Gujarat, where the sea port at Lothal continues to flourish for a time before being abandoned too. Its inhabitants merge with the Stone Age tribes of the Deccan Plateau in central India and others in southern India. Squatters take over the abandoned citadels, living in slum dwellings, and village life continues in the countryside. The urban heritage is passed on to the east and engenders the emergence of cities in the Ganges valley and northern India, and the civilisation's reverence for animals is also passed on.

Kingdoms of South Asia - Indus Valley Culture

 

[ARCHON]

There was no concept of indianess, People were Punjabi, Sindhi, or their religious or caste affiliation were what defined them.

Exactly which part of India is "indian- ness??

The Indus based people had little or no contact with bharat

Why? Was there any customs on "borders"? or didnt they have passports.. In old times people moved around freely for trade and for hunting.

- which was based around the ganges.

What about other rivers in India.. ???

People in Ancient Pakistan, began to convert to Islam, through the efforts of peace Muslim Sufi preachers, it was a gradual process, and was largely complete a few hundred years ago.

Islam in Pakistan- 711 AD through conquest by Muhammad bin Qasim

Islam in India- 630 AD through traders in Malabar coast of South India.

In fact bharati civilisation is something that we Pakistanis have no claim on, it is what the modern state of india is based on. And therefore all the Indus based culture is distinct from modern india.

What about Indus sites in Gujarat and present day punjab??/ Are they from Mars??

Stop the BS. Use the head.

 

[justanobserver]

@ARCHON

The people of the Indus valley migrated to the Gangetic Plains due to a shift in the monsoons.

Read this

Indus Valley Culture (Harappa)
c.3300 - c.1700 BC

.........

c.1800 BC


In this century the cities slip into terminal decline. No one cause seems responsible, but a combination of climate change, over-cultivation, and changes in the course of the Indus may contribute. The weakening of the monsoon is probably the most important single cause. Scribes in Sumer record that rich shipments suddenly cease at around 1800 BC.


c.1700 BC


The Indus culture dies out. Its people move east into Rajasthan and the Ganges watershed. Others head south to Gujarat, where the sea port at Lothal continues to flourish for a time before being abandoned too. Its inhabitants merge with the Stone Age tribes of the Deccan Plateau in central India and others in southern India. Squatters take over the abandoned citadels, living in slum dwellings, and village life continues in the countryside. The urban heritage is passed on to the east and engenders the emergence of cities in the Ganges valley and northern India, and the civilisation's reverence for animals is also passed on.

Kingdoms of South Asia - Indus Valley Culture

 

[ARCHON]

@ARCHON the people of the Indus valley migrated to the Gangetic Plains due to a shift in the monsoons.
Read this


Kingdoms of South Asia - Indus Valley Culture

No no.. not possible.. they are immovable.. like statues ,according to few here.. i am not going to believe you.

 

[LaBong]

So Indus valley people were Muslims! That's a good revelation!

 

[Rafi]

Pakicetid

Pakicetus.
Scientific classification
Kingdom: Animalia
Phylum: Chordata
Class: Mammalia
Order: Cetacea
Family: Pakicetidae
Genera
Pakicetus
Nalacetus
Ichthyolestes

Pakicetids or Pakicetidae are a carnivorous mammal family of the suborder Archaeoceti which lived during the Early Eocene to Middle Eocene (55.8 mya—40.4 mya) in Pakistan and existed for approximately 15.4 million years.[1]

Scientist acknowledge a creature that lived in Ancient Pakistan, Pakistani scientists were successful in lobbying for the creature thus, and now the world accepts the concept of Ancient Pakistan.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pakicetids

Wow! Modern science has accepted Ancient Pakistan

 

[LaBong]

Wow! There was an ancient Pakistani dinosaur as well!

 

[LaBong]

So Indus valley people were Muslims! That's a good revelation!

Come to think of it, this is not a good development at all! Some people in Pakistan surely gonna blame them of committing shirk(them worshipping pashupathi and all!) and will probably send suiciders(sic) to bomb what is left of the old civilization.

 

[Rafi]

The attempt by modern india to try to claim our heritage, which is distinct from theirs, is cultural theft.