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The most powerful military nations 2015

A really flawed list @levina
A better ranking would be:

1.United States of America (undisputed number 1) :usflag:
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. (a really big gap)
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2. Russian federation

3.China ( may soon overtake Russian federation in 3-4 years)

4.India

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5.France

6.United Kingdom

7. Japan

8.Germany

9.Turkey

10.Israel

11.Pakistan

12. South Korea.

 
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Sweden, Switzerland, Singapore are underrated countries which are quite tough. I don't know if I missed Japan but they have the second largest surface navy in the world. Australia is a joke. White South Africa was very powerful which many people forget today. They had nukes and the best arty guns of the 80s thanks to Dr. Bull. Their SF was as good as any US SF unit and their military was extremely well-trained.
 
Only Saudi Arabia asks for Pakistani help to train troops, Egypt also provides training to a large number of Arab and friendly nations which includes Saudi Arabia and Pakistan (Pakistani students passed out of the Egyptian Staff College this year). Joint exercises and training improves interoprability and understanding between forces, it is not really a measure of who is or who isn't better, for instance US SF recieve training from many other SF units around the world (most notably Israel) but does that mean the US SF aren't the best equipped, trained, and financed on the planet?



Just because you aren't aware of the respective nations defence industries doesn't mean they don't exist!

Egypt for instance produces everything from bullets to tanks to trainer aircraft, and soon Corvettes (Gowind) and later Frigates with Chinese cooperation. The Arab Organisation for Industrilisation makes an export revenue per annum of around $1B while serving the needs of the Egyptian Armed Forces first and foremost. Although it has stagnated after the death of Field Marshal AbuGhazzallah to a large extent cooperation with the UAE which has a small but incredibly good defence industry may see its revival.

The Saudis are rapidly improving their defence industry, into perhaps the best industry in the Middle East, with licensed assembly of the Typhoon, production of parts and electronics for the F-15SA and the capability to produce its own EW and targetting pods SA is turning into a powerhouse, that is even before considering its expenditure on R&D.

While arguably no where near as strong as the Pakistani defence industry, they certainly don't "have no defence industry".





Navies that are rapidly modernising and adding potent platforms, for instance Egypt procured 4 Ambassedor MKIII FMC from the states, will produce 3 Gowind Corvettes in Egypt (one will be produced in France), a deal for 1-2 FREMM is basically done, and 2 latest Type 209 subs will be inducted in 2016 (with an option for two more) to replace the obsolete improved Sino-Romeo class subs.

As for the Saudis, they are going ahead with a massive expansion of their Navy by spending a lot of money on R&D and licensed production. With its plans to buy around 6 FREMMs and littoral combat ships (or even Burke Class destroyers) the future of the Saudi Navy looks bright, although what its doing about subs is still up in the air. A new contract to build a plethora of smaller coastal patrol boats and ships is also promising.

In essence what you have here is two navies that are modernising and growing while the PN is stagnating, proof of that is wanting to go for OHPs as a stop gap.

The BVRs argument is again flawed, the Mica IR on the M2K and the AIM-7M/P are beyond visual range missiles, the latter however lacks the modern active radar of the AMRAAM. Either way, the acquisition of Russian fighters Mig-29/35 will provide the EAF with the R-77 and the acquisition of the Rafale will provide the EAF with the radar guided Mica and in the future the MBDA Meteor. So however effective you think this (f;awed) argument is, it will be a thing of a past (and in less than a year).



What is with the butthurt over a meaningless list? I know you're here to propagate the bigoted idea 'that Arabs can't fight' (even though there is plenty of evidence that states otherwise) but do you have to be so ignorant and dickish about it, so Egypt came up on top, big deal!

Thank you so much for clearing the air.
Many here 're ignorant about the armies that exist around the world which reflects in their posts.

A really flawed list @levina
A better ranking would be:

1.United States of America (undisputed number 1) :usflag:
.

. (a really big gap)
.
.

2. Russian federation

3.China ( may soon overtake Russian federation in 3-4 years)

4.India

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5.France

6.United Kingdom

7. Japan

8.Germany

9.Turkey

10.Israel

11.Pakistan

12. South Korea.

I did not any notification for this one.
But i like your list, now tell me what were the factors considered??
 
when u know u r on my IGNORE list then I expect to show some decency and stay out of my threads.
 
these threads are full of shit... taking into account unreliable numbers,economy,resources n bullshit.

Oh come on; refute the points raised by Frogman...make it an interactive thing ! :)

I was interested to read that Pakistanis have graduated from Egyptian military academies !
 
The BVRs argument is again flawed, the Mica IR on the M2K and the AIM-7M/P are beyond visual range missiles,
I think i have considerable knowledge on weapons. You are right that the Sparrow (Aim 7p) is a BVR missile, but it as you mentioned it is Active Radar seeking missile. Considering Egypt's likely opponent will be AMRAAMs, it will be suicide for EAF to go up agains them. Since you need to manage a lock on the enemy plane, you will not be able to perform evasive maneuvers (performing these disrups the radar-guidance) when AMRAAMS are launched against your planes. Although the Sparrows have twice the range of AMRAAMs, they are so out-dated that even if you were able to maintain a lock, jamming them will be child's play.
That said going for R-77s' is a smart move. Maybe you guys can even modify the F-16s' to carry them.

You stolen our wealth to expand ur empire.
Not to forget Americas' wouldnt even be discovered if the world wasn't crazy about our spices.

And we have exocets.
Exocets are useless, as proven in Falklands.
 
I think i have considerable knowledge on weapons. You are right that the Sparrow (Aim 7p) is a BVR missile, but it as you mentioned it is Active Radar seeking missile. Considering Egypt's likely opponent will be AMRAAMs, it will be suicide for EAF to go up agains them. Since you need to manage a lock on the enemy plane, you will not be able to perform evasive maneuvers (performing these disrups the radar-guidance) when AMRAAMS are launched against your planes. Although the Sparrows have twice the range of AMRAAMs, they are so out-dated that even if you were able to maintain a lock, jamming them will be child's play.
That said going for R-77s' is a smart move. Maybe you guys can even modify the F-16s' to carry them.

Much like Pakistan did before its acquisition of the AIM-120 (in 201 I believe) the EAF is primarily focused on getting enemy fighters into a merge and into a dog fight. The AIM-120 or any other AMRAAM for that matter will never be tossed from its maximum publicized range, pilots will generally wait until the missiles 'no escape zone' which in the case of the AIM-120 is well within the range of the AIM-7. If a pilot fires the AIM-120 out of this zone, its probability of kill will be well below 50% and that's is before taking into account other variables such as aspect, speed, chase etc. etc. in any case the advantage will still be with the AMRAAM, but it isn't as simple as a lot of people believe, but this is just according to my limited knowledge.

Another thing I wanted to point out is that Egyptian skies are not only defended by the Air Force, the Egyptian Air Defence command is one of (if not) the most experienced out there which deploys absolutly lethal and varied surface to air missiles and platforms, from strategic systems such as the PAC-3 and S-300VM, to the Buk-M2 Tor-M2 etc. etc.
 
Hey dude long time not seen, everything alright? Hows your dad doing? :)

Hello my friend. Yeah, long time. I missed you and my other friends here. I hope all is well :) My Dad and Grandmother both passed within a month. For a while, I was not doing very well and had basically retreated from life.

Thankfully my friends, family and spirituality helped pull me out of an abyss and I'm doing a lot better now.
 
Hello my friend. Yeah, long time. I missed you and my other friends here. I hope all is well :) My Dad and Grandmother both passed within a month. For a while, I was not doing very well and had basically retreated from life.

Thankfully my friends, family and spirituality helped pull me out of an abyss and I'm doing a lot better.

Bro, are you continuing on with your undergrad in Political Science ?
 
Bro, are you continuing on with your undergrad in Political Science ?

Not at the moment. Without really going into it, things got really bad, so I had to drop my classes. I will be going back eventually. Just not sure if that's now the direction I will head in. Time will tell.
 
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