The most powerful military nations 2015

[thesolar65]

Let's start WWIII (Without N-Weapons) and after one year see what's the Ranking!!

 

[papertiger]

Does Australia have the resources to deploy F-18 all the way to Indonesia? You need AC for that which Australia lacks.

And that is what I am saying. Thanks to alliances Australia is as good as invincible. But credit goes to US, UK not to Australia alone.

Indonesia cannot threaten Australia. Fighting Australia means fighting New Zealand, UK, US and by default whole NATO. Nobody is going to take the risk. Australia is more a political power because of its alliances and resources, I guess you guys have some truckloads of uranium which gives you a very good leverage. Same like oil does for Saudis.

We can reach Indonesia with our F18s, we also have 2 helicopter aircraft carriers soon to be in operation (1 is already completed) who can field F35s.

However our army is too small to invade Indonesia and is only designed to fight alongside the US as a partner. Australia has fought in every major conflict the US has been involved in since WW2, this is the armies only job.

We could hold off any power from invading us without US help, aside from the US itself. This may chance soon as China develops a blue water navy.

Perhaps Japan too could force its way through our waters, but it would be precarious for them, with 6 large advanced submarines and our navy/airforce to contend with (Japan has no aircraft carriers, aside from ones fitted out for solely helicopters). Japan like us is built only for self defense, it has limited ability to invade countries (though in a prolonged war it could easily change that). Japan too is an ally of ours, we are more likely to be fighting together than against each other.

Our main allies these days are Japan and the US. The UK is too far away and not the naval power it once was. They probably could not send enough help or help in time to matter in a large conflict. But for sure politically they would try and protect us (through the UNSC etc). All western countries usually stick together these days when it matters.

Let's start WWIII (Without N-Weapons) and after one year see what's the Ranking!!

It would be interesting to see what technologies would develop.

WW1 brought us our first useful aircraft among many things.

WW2, rockets, jet engines , computers etc.

All these advancements happen in a matter or years because countries invest so much money and men into research.

A 4 year long WW3 could bring us hypersonic aircraft, quantum computers, maybe even the tech to colonize mars, ofc this would never happen because we'd destroy ourselves before we could reap the rewards.

 

[KAL-EL]

Let's start WWIII (Without N-Weapons) and after one year see what's the Ranking!!

 

[Indian Patriot]

We can reach Indonesia with our F18s, we also have 2 helicopter aircraft carriers soon to be in operation (1 is already completed) who can field F35s.

However our army is too small to invade Indonesia and is only designed to fight alongside the US as a partner. Australia has fought in every major conflict the US has been involved in since WW2, this is the armies only job.

We could hold off any power from invading us without US help, aside from the US itself. This may chance soon as China develops a blue water navy.

Perhaps Japan too could force its way through our waters, but it would be precarious for them, with 6 large advanced submarines and our navy/airforce to contend with (Japan has no aircraft carriers, aside from ones fitted out for solely helicopters). Japan like us is built only for self defense, it has limited ability to invade countries (though in a prolonged war it could easily change that). Japan too is an ally of ours, we are more likely to be fighting together than against each other.

Our main allies these days are Japan and the US. The UK is too far away and not the naval power it once was. They probably could not send enough help or help in time to matter in a large conflict. But for sure politically they would try and protect us (through the UNSC etc). All western countries usually stick together these days when it matters.

I did not think hornets can fly that far without adequate support but I will concede that point. I thought only the retired F-111 had a serious chance.

I read about Aussie SAS in Vietnam. Either the kangaroos or the kiwi SAS had the best ever kill ratio in combat 300:0.

China cannot invade Australia. Invasion is not simply deploying ships 10,000 km away. China cannot sustain an operation like that even with a blue water navy. You need ports to support ships. Even when you have tankers and support fleet a distance of X,000 kilometers means there is plenty of space for ambush.

Japanese navy is highly underrated. They are a beast. The number of destroyers they have is second only to USN. And I would place Japanese SSK over Aussies.

I read somewhere UK has its SSN patrolling Aussie waters. In any case UK involvement means NATO and nobody wants that to happen.

 

[xenon54 out]

Hello my friend. Yeah, long time. I missed you and my other friends here. I hope all is well My Dad and Grandmother both passed within a month. For a while, I was not doing very well and had basically retreated from life.

Thankfully my friends, family and spirituality helped pull me out of an abyss and I'm doing a lot better now.

My condolences dude, its always hard to loose relatives, may they rest in peace.

Good to see you around here.

 

[usernameless]

We first need to fix our economy.EU countries' economies bumped up to trillion dollars after they formed the EU. When we get into the EU, our economy will also grow a hell lot considering that of we have now.

Russia, Iran and Saudi Arabia. All of these three countries' economies are mostly dependent on natural resources. We do not have that luxury.

If we can really make up to a $2.000.000.000.000 worth of GDP till 2023, before we join the EU, then we will break all the limits after we join it!

And then we will have more flexibility regarding adjusting our defense budget.

my views; The EU part is most probably not going to happen, unless in the future the EU comes begging to us with offers, which Turkey should decline imo. Turkey already has special trade treaties with the EU and imo the EU's democratic reforms were/are a good guideline, I just don't see what critical advantages we can can gain from entering the EU. Plus if Turkey keeps rising the EU will be an economical collective burden. Also, too much affiliation with one side is not good for the strategic geopolitical positioning of Turkey.

we should maintain a strong army and at the same time keep playing our cards with the US and Russia. I agree with you that our economy first must improve much more. When we were weak, no one really wanted us and above all they were messing with us diplomatically or through supporting factions against us. Once Turkey achieves a respectable level of economy and military, it will be others that will come to us with offers and requests to resolve the existing issues asap for more trade and/or co-op in whatever field, and in such cases it's better to be a rather neutral player than entrenching yourself more in the EU/West camp or any other camp.

Hello my friend. Yeah, long time. I missed you and my other friends here. I hope all is well My Dad and Grandmother both passed within a month. For a while, I was not doing very well and had basically retreated from life.

Thankfully my friends, family and spirituality helped pull me out of an abyss and I'm doing a lot better now.

condolences. your presence was missed in the Turkish section. Hope everything will be alright for you from now.

 

[KAL-EL]

condolences. your presence was missed in the Turkish section. Hope everything will be alright for you from now.

Thank you! It's nice to see you again friend. I missed my all PDF buds and hanging out in the Turkish section. Still looking like it's the most rational section

 

[Zarvan]

Which retard collected this data most stats are wrong

 

[New World]

read the factors considered

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If your are making selection on these factors, then you should place Israel on no.1 position.
according to her Geographical location..

 

[Indian Patriot]

If your are making selection on these factors, then you should place Israel on no.1 position.
according to her Geographical location..

They do have the best pilots.

 

[SouI]

Turkey already has special trade treaties with the EU and imo the EU's democratic reforms were/are a good guideline, I just don't see what critical advantages we can can gain from entering the EU.

We get 35-40 million tourists every year, and that would escalate to 100 million all of a sudden.

And because 'EU' is a trademark, our relationships in every kind with every nation on earth would improve dramatically, all of which would dramatical improvements on our economical relationships with all those nations.

Our foreign currency reserves would also rock n roll as there would be systems for every businessman in Turkey that allows direct-EURO-payment from people (mainly EU citizens), which would improve our economy far and far more.

Plus if Turkey keeps rising the EU will be an economical collective burden.

How? The EU right now is what mostly makes our tourism and trades. And these two aspects will only increase by the accession of Turkey into the EU.

Also, too much affiliation with one side is not good for the strategic geopolitical positioning of Turkey.

How come? We are like.. you know... IN NATO!! And look, we are already allied with Russia and China.

And there is literally no law saying that members of the EU cannot be members of Eurasia or SCO.

Mind you, we are already like members of both of those organizations. We are a participant in SCO and act like a member of Eurasia.

What we will get is a huge part of EU congress with our representatives, which will make the EU unable to pass a law/decision without our support.

 

[New World]

They do have the best pilots.

yes, your are right they have best pilots second to none...

and the other which i want to know that UK and France have tanks just under 500? Is that right?

 

[xenon54 out]

How come? We are like.. you know... IN NATO!! And look, we are already allied with Russia and China.

And there is literally no law saying that members of the EU cannot be members of Eurasia or SCO.

Mind you, we are already like members of both of those organizations. We are a participant in SCO and act like a member of Eurasia.

What we will get is a huge part of EU congress with our representatives, which will make the EU unable to pass a law/decision without our support.

Russia became kind because the sanctions hit them hard, you can only trust if they maintain their attitude also in good times and not only when they need trade partners, they were planning a opposite pipeline to Nabucco before Ukraine crisis after all.

And about China, our relations with them is purely economical.

 

[PlanetWarrior]

These stats are totally wrong !!!!

Zimbabwe is nowhere on the list and they have the world's most powerful navy, comparable only to the USA

 

[Neptune]

Both Turkey and Pakistan have close military ties. Does Pakistan have its officers training in Turkey or vice-versa?

IDK the Land Forces and the Air Force but we were trained alongside with PN officer cadets as well during my time in the Naval Academy.