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The most democratic Muslim nations!

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Aren't Saudi citizens paid benefits for studying, marriage, unemployment and other reasons? How can you be so sure he is not paid by the government? And the mass importation of Jewish Hollywood shows without any reciprocation is the direct result of the King of Saudi Arabia's servile attitude to the West, is not it? Considering that Jewish Hollywood is firmly anti Islamic and anti Arab as well, why should any sane, respectable Arab leader serving Arab people allow importation of Jewish Hollywood media?

Yes we should belike Taliban we should ban all music and videos and movies and only start a massive fatwa hotline for everyone that is the good idea right? So right now the King of Saudi Arabia is a western puppet evidence "He allows American TV" if you haven't noticed movies are banned. Maybe they should also ban the Internet that will be awesome too isn't it??

Let us all live in a cave while we are at it. That would be amazing. That way no contact to anyone what so ever.
 
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Anything is possible in democratic countries as long as the people want it and as long as the people/gov't is capable of doing it. If the majority of the people call for mass murder, that is also acceptable in democracy. That is the essence of democracy, which is why democracy in itself is no panacea, but better than one-man secular dictatorships, or "kings" and "queens" working against Islam to serve their Western masters.

No that is not democracy. That is mobocracy.

The basic essence of democracy is not only "by the people", but also "for the people".
 
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Anything is possible in democratic countries as long as the people want it and as long as the people/gov't is capable of doing it. If the majority of the people call for mass murder, that is also acceptable in democracy. That is the essence of democracy, which is why democracy in itself is no panacea, but better than one-man secular dictatorships, or "kings" and "queens" working against Islam to serve their Western masters.


Looking for a job?? I hear Al-Qaida s hiring. Perfect candidate.
 
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It did not help. No saudi scientific breakthroughs. Just some articles which contain these three words, not necessarily in the correct order. Once again, it shows that a kingdom that allows indecent dances fails to produce any scientific breakthroughs.


That's the thing Lathai. Without personal freedom the mind can not innovate and think outside of the box the very tight box we are FORCED to live in. Islamic golden age came because at the time "Civil liberty" and a "Civil society" system was in place. Everyone was free to do what they want. Scientific prowess comes with freedom this was the case throughout the ages. We saw it in china we saw it in Arab and Persian dynasties. We saw it in Europe. And now we are seeing it in America.

What do you mean by personal freedom? No where on earth was there total personal freedom ever, because that would result inutter chaos, and lack of civilization. We are asking for the opposite - development of civilization. Americans are backward people helped by no wars in multiple centuries on their territories, immense resources stolen from the natives of America, and huge influx of European scientists after World War II. The trend continues today, so much so that importing foreign scientists is still one of the major foci of American scientific directives.

The freer will always improve. And that is a fact. And by the way KAUST only opened very recently with still many of it's buildings are under construction like tue number 2 warehouse and Student house 3 and 4 and the Electrpnic department is still under staffed and they are hiring there. So wait for it to fully function. Oh look it opened today why is there no science glow from it one hour later??? Typical mutawaa mentality.


Did not you say you love the indecent dances? So your king allows indecent dances and all unislamic practises to please the kafir Westerners, but when you import these kafir Westerners, they still can not produce any scientific breakthroughs? Is not that a tremendous policy failure on your King's part? One of the major requirements for selection into KAUST was that the professors should be well established in their respective fields, so they have already a huge headstart over newbies from desert kingdoms. Why should not those kafir Westerners produce scientific breakthroughs?

In simple words, your country has been duped by kafir Westerners. They implemented unislamic laws, follow unislamic practises within Saudi Arabia, which your unintelligent king allowed because his knowledge of scientific research is insignificant, and in the end, they provide you with no significant output.

Looking for a job?? I hear Al-Qaida s hiring. Perfect candidate.

No logical argumentation whatsoever. We can expect no logical development in societies ruled by backward, Western foot-licking kings.
 
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They should background check every Bangladeshi before letting them to enter India, I mean some of these pdf Bangladeshi can make saudis run for their money.
 
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No that is not democracy. That is mobocracy.

The basic essence of democracy is not only "by the people", but also "for the people".

No. Democracy means rule of the majority. Whatever the majority want, they get it done (if they are capable).

Yes we should belike Taliban we should ban all music and videos and movies and only start a massive fatwa hotline for everyone that is the good idea right? So right now the King of Saudi Arabia is a western puppet evidence "He allows American TV" if you haven't noticed movies are banned. Maybe they should also ban the Internet that will be awesome too isn't it??

Let us all live in a cave while we are at it. That would be amazing. That way no contact to anyone what so ever.


Maybe you were trying to be sarcastic, but there is once again, no logical input from you whatsoever. Just show me what scientific breakthroughs were produced by Saudi Arabia under a king who allowed indecent dances in the holy land for Muslims, the land of Haramain Sharifain.
 
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It did not help. No saudi scientific breakthroughs. Just some articles which contain these three words, not necessarily in the correct order. Once again, it shows that a kingdom that allows indecent dances fails to produce any scientific breakthroughs.




What do you mean by personal freedom? No where on earth was there total personal freedom ever, because that would result inutter chaos, and lack of civilization. We are asking for the opposite - development of civilization. Americans are backward people helped by no wars in multiple centuries on their territories, immense resources stolen from the natives of America, and huge influx of European scientists after World War II. The trend continues today, so much so that importing foreign scientists is still one of the major foci of American scientific directives.




Did not you say you love the indecent dances? So your king allows indecent dances and all unislamic practises to please the kafir Westerners, but when you import these kafir Westerners, they still can not produce any scientific breakthroughs? Is not that a tremendous policy failure on your King's part? One of the major requirements for selection into KAUST was that the professors should be well established in their respective fields, so they have already a huge headstart over newbies from desert kingdoms. Why should not those kafir Westerners produce scientific breakthroughs?

In simple words, your country has been duped by kafir Westerners. They implemented unislamic laws, follow unislamic practises within Saudi Arabia, which your unintelligent king allowed because his knowledge of scientific research is insignificant, and in the end, they provide you with no significant output.



No logical argumentation whatsoever. We can expect no logical development in societies ruled by backward, Western foot-licking kings.

Again with the "Evil Kuffars" there is really no arguing with you lot. Really Al-Qaida is hiring you are the perfect candidate. Go now maybe you will get to blow yourself up between people who do "Indecent dances".
 
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No. Democracy means rule of the majority. Whatever the majority want, they get it done (if they are capable).

That is perfect recipe of anarchy, democracy demands you to adhere to the constitution and laws of land to which all citizens are equal.
 
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Again with the "Evil Kuffars" there is really no arguing with you lot. Really Al-Qaida is hiring you are the perfect candidate. Go now maybe you will get to blow yourself up between people who do "Indecent dances".

There is "no arguing" because in the first place you do not have any scientific breakthroughs. Your king's brutal pro Western rule has snatched all logical abilities from most Saudi people's minds, so much so that you can not make any scientific breakthroughs and regularly perform poorly in all logical, scientific, mathematical tests. That is why you are asking me to join Al Qaida, when it so happens that your kingdom is the biggest "Base" for Americans in the Middle East. You know what Al Qaida means as an Arabic speaker very well. Your kingdom and other GCC kingdoms are the biggest bases of Americans in the Middle East.

Again, provide arguments with facts, learn to think independently. You have been copying infidel Americans' advice without assessing whether they provide any commensurate benefits/losses to your society. Your king has been doing that, and you have been singing praises for your moronic king ever since you joined this forum. I think if your king is deposed and the Saudi people choose an Islamic governor, then the Saudi people can voice their true opinions on their desert king.

That is perfect recipe of anarchy, democracy demands you to adhere to the constitution and laws of land to which all citizens are equal.

Democracy means "Demos" (look it up) + "-cracy" (look it up). That's all. Do not invent new definitions.
 
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R&DC develops fuel formula to cut gas engines

Saudi Gazette - Saudi student discovers two new breast cancer genes

These are just two that come to mind. And much more to come. With greater personal freedom comes greater science. They always came hand in hand because simply the educated refuse to live in a place that is the closest thing to a dumb available.

There is "no arguing" because in the first place you do not have any scientific breakthroughs. Your king's brutal pro Western rule has snatched all logical abilities from most Saudi people's minds, so much so that you can not make any scientific breakthroughs and regularly perform poorly in all logical, scientific, mathematical tests. That is why you are asking me to join Al Qaida, when it so happens that your kingdom is the biggest "Base" for Americans in the Middle East. You know what Al Qaida means as an Arabic speaker very well. Your kingdom and other GCC kingdoms are the biggest bases of Americans in the Middle East.

Again, provide arguments with facts, learn to think independently. You have been copying infidel Americans' advice without assessing whether they provide any commensurate benefits/losses to your society. Your king has been doing that, and you have been singing praises for your moronic king ever since you joined this forum. I think if your king is deposed and the Saudi people choose an Islamic governor, then the Saudi people can voice their true opinions on their desert king.



Democracy means "Demos" (look it up) + "-cracy" (look it up). That's all. Do not invent new definitions.

What does a moronic mutawaa religious nut job know a thing about scientific break through anyways?? Seriously. Yeah we do very poorly on mathamtocs because of "Pro-Western attitude" really??? And you dare talk about science after that?? Infidel America assess praise the Loooooord. You lot are not even worth a torn out shoe. Loved how you linked American bases with "Al-Qaida" to make it look like it is the same thing. And you dare talk about science after that.

Oh and your definition of democracy demos + cracy. Really?. And yet you dare talk about science after that?? Really don't bring the holy word of science in your mouth again.
 
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and huge influx of European scientists after World War II. The trend continues today, so much so that importing foreign scientists is still one of the major foci of American scientific directives.
That's absolutely true, watch this video:
 
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R&DC develops fuel formula to cut gas engines

Saudi Gazette - Saudi student discovers two new breast cancer genes

These are just two that come to mind. And much more to come. With greater personal freedom comes greater science. They always came hand in hand because simply the educated refuse to live in a place that is the closest thing to a dumb available.

None of these are scientific breakthroughs. It's like posting some random scientific paper published by Saudi Arabia, Bangladesh or some random country during the last calendar year. I am willing to publicly accept that my claim was wrong IF ten years from now, either one of these two 'discoveries' are even mentioned by anybody outside Saudi Arabia for their importance. There are millions of papers published by Western countries every year, which are mostly worthless, because ten years down the line, they are not even worth 'toilet papers' in their respective academic circles, while there are also important breakthroughs like General and Special Theories of Relativity, that were way too advanced for most scientists of their time to be understood relatively well.
 
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There is "no arguing" because in the first place you do not have any scientific breakthroughs. Your king's brutal pro Western rule has snatched all logical abilities from most Saudi people's minds, so much so that you can not make any scientific breakthroughs and regularly perform poorly in all logical, scientific, mathematical tests. That is why you are asking me to join Al Qaida, when it so happens that your kingdom is the biggest "Base" for Americans in the Middle East. You know what Al Qaida means as an Arabic speaker very well. Your kingdom and other GCC kingdoms are the biggest bases of Americans in the Middle East.

Again, provide arguments with facts, learn to think independently. You have been copying infidel Americans' advice without assessing whether they provide any commensurate benefits/losses to your society. Your king has been doing that, and you have been singing praises for your moronic king ever since you joined this forum. I think if your king is deposed and the Saudi people choose an Islamic governor, then the Saudi people can voice their true opinions on their desert king.



Democracy means "Demos" (look it up) + "-cracy" (look it up). That's all. Do not invent new definitions.
Maybe you need to look up common sense, but don't look up common and sense separately genius.
 
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False, democracy means the rule of the majority.

Rule of the majority for the entire set of people - including minority guaranteeing equality of all.

Democracy is not rule of the majority for the majority.

Dont just shoot from the hip.
 
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