The man who broke Pakistan and created Bangladesh: Serazul Alam Khan

[idune]

Is it possible to move these leftists away from India, a capitalist country and increasingly allied with capitalist West, and get them to side with China, still an officially communist country? Can that be a workable strategy? These leftist idiots did not think about the consequences of getting Indian help. Is it possible to make them realize that their handiwork has turned Bangladesh into Indian vassal and slave state and that one of our best alternative is to bring Chinese intelligence in, when they are ready, to counter RAW control of Bangladesh?

Its not possible to change leftists. Good example is Sirajul Alam Khan himself; he lived and taught in US university (in Wisconsin) for many many years, yet he goes back to plot leftist game against Bangladesh. Critical point is their hatred against Islam will not go away.

But good thing is these people are few in numbers. Last of their field level goons (sorboharas) are very much eliminated during last BNP govt. That is why Prothom Alo and other leftist echo chambers were so vocal against BNP. Once these influential bunch infiltrated in media and other power corridor are identified and eliminated things should be much better for Bangladesh.

And to begin that process, Chatra Union and Udichi have to be banned in Bangladesh. These two are leftist extremist and atheist (as we saw in Shahbagh) recruiting points in Bangladesh.

 

[Spring Onion]

So was he a Bengali or a Khan?

 

[kalu_miah]

No one else broke Pakistan. We broke it ourselves. Let's give credit where it's due....

By "ourselves" do you mean both western and eastern wing prior to 1971? If you do, then you will find that that is what I am doing, trying to find who among ourselves did what to cause this to happen. The same forces are still among us, by the way, wreaking havoc in Bangladesh body politic till today. It is still very important for Bangladeshi's to find out the full range of their actions in our land mass, from the beginning till today.

So was he a Bengali or a Khan?

You should read this thread:
Rise of Islam in Bengal, role of migration

 

[Roybot]

So was he a Bengali or a Khan?

A Bangladeshi Khan

 

[punit]

Pakistan, India and BD are stable countries now after 1971 war. the real losers of jamati razakars .. dhobi ka kutta .. na ghar ka na ghat ka !!

 

[kalu_miah]

A Bangladeshi Khan

You Indians should be grateful to this scum. Without him being born, there is a good chance that there would not be a 1971 war. Mr. Khan, note how these Indians are making fun of your Dalit looks, the very Indians who you helped to achieve their strategic goal of breaking apart the largest Muslim country in the world. Talk about gratitude.

@asad71 your kind comments please about this thread.

 

[pakbrother]

Bangladeshis don't have foreign origins, this is proven by genetic tests. Only a small proportion have foreign blood and this is due to the fact that their ancestors were used in harems. People like @Al-zakir the Arab wannabe were used extensively in harems.

The only South Asian Muslims with foreign origins are Indians and Pakistanis. According to genetic tests, 40% of Muslims in UP have Persian blood. Are you jealous Bangladeshi? We even have Hindu communities with foreign origin like Rajputs and Gujjars who are descended from Huns and Jats who are descended from Scynthians.

Aside the Rajputs, Indian Hindus are hybrid of Austroasiatic and African slaves. You also have huge physical similarity with the Red Indians. Your hybridization took place in the middle ages when the Muslim rulers of India needed to increase the number of their slaves. Your ancestors were crossed with the Abyssinian slaves from Africa for their physical competence, while few women slaves had sexual relations with their masters. There were African stockmen in every Hindu village for their hybridization. Thus the race of Indian Hindus came into being.

 

[hunter_hunted]

A Bangladeshi Khan

Gandalf the Blue ????

 

[Shabaz Sharif]

Nope, that is pseudo history. All South Asians have ASI genes in them, please go to HarrapaDNA and see the results yourself. The rest of what you are saying is made up and lacks a source.
Here are the four genetic and facial groups of Indians which refutes your claims:
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And i am supposed to believe indid types look like hritick roshan

 

[pakbrother]

Nope, that is pseudo history. All South Asians have ASI genes in them, please go to HarrapaDNA and see the results yourself. The rest of what you are saying is made up and lacks a source.
Here are the four genetic and facial groups of Indians which refutes your claims:
View attachment 35236

Stop claiming to be like Pakistanis, Indian Hindus mainly fit in the Melanid and Australoid types. Few women slaves indeed had sexual relations with their Muslim masters, but their numbers are negligible. Most of the women slaves were crossed with the African slave stockmen and they are your real ancestors.

 

[Shabaz Sharif]

You mean Indid, no one in Indo-Brachid looks like Hritik Roshan. Indid is found in Punjab and Himachal with tiny groups in Haryana and Rajasthan.

Look please find me another Hritick Roshan looking like creature from India and then i will believe. After all it will be easy

 

[pakbrother]

These are all groups from India, none from Pakistan or other countries. African slaves were negligible in number, roughly around 1000 and only found in Gujarat. In fact they live a isolated existence and are not in mainstream society, fail.

I said you are hybrid of Austroasian people and African slaves. African slaves were only used as stockmen for the hybridization of your ancestors as the Muslim masters needed more number of slaves and physically more capable. Those African slaves might have left your land after mating with the women slaves, that's why there are now few Africans. But they are your real ancestors.

 

[Shabaz Sharif]

I said you are hybrid of Austroasian people and African slaves. African slaves were only used as stockmen for the hybridization of your ancestors as the Muslim masters needed more number of slaves and physically more capable. Those African slaves might have left your land after mating with the women slaves, that's why there are now few Africans. But they are your real ancestors.

Couple of facts. Himachalis have Chenges Khan gene, mongloid. Rajasthanis rajputs 45+ ASI, similar to punjabi dalits. The only population where you will find those type of indid is upper caste punjabis which make minuscule % of Indian population. Not more then 2% at best.

 

[A Town]

Couple of facts. Himachalis have Chenges Khan gene, mongloid. Rajasthanis rajputs 45+ ASI, similar to punjabi dalits. The only population where you will find those type of indid is upper caste punjabis which make minuscule % of Indian population. Not more then 2% at best.

We have established that this is simply not true, the Harrapa DNA sample is based of one person who is unverified. Here are the real results for Rajasthan Rajputs:
The 2006 study by Sanghamitra Sengupta has some Y-DNA data on the Rajputs. However, we should consider that many people in Rajasthan claim to be so called Rajputs, even instrument players, camel herdsman and nomads at that! These geneticists can't really authenticate which individuals are real Rajputs and which ones are fake Rajputs, thus the data must misrepresent the over all Rajput Y-DNA demographics. Also, the Rajputs are an elite who aren't easily discernible to the average person or tourist in Rajasthan as they are not seen as average folks on the street, etc. Regardless, Sengupta's data mainly shows an R1-R2-J2 assortment, which is rather typical for upper caste/dvija Hindus in general.

Rajput (India, North, South Asia; High Caste, Indo-European)

• 5/28 = 17.8% H1–M052
• 1/28 = 3.57% H-M069
• 9/28= 32.14 % R1a1-M017
• 1/28 = 3.57% C5-M356
• 3/28 = 10.71% J2b2-M241
• 1/28= 3.57% J2a-M410
• 2/28 = 7.14% L3-M357
• 1/28= 3.57% F*-M089/M213
• 1/28 = 3.57% J1-M267
• 4/28= 14.28% R2- M124

The link to the study is here, I believe that it is more significant then the Harrapa DNA results as it is based of multiple participants
Polarity and Temporality of High-Resolution Y-Chromosome Distributions in India Identify Both Indigenous and Exogenous Expansions and Reveal Minor Genetic Influence of Central Asian Pastoralists

 

[Shabaz Sharif]

Himachalis are not mongoloid, only the border regions of Himachal have those features. Himachalis are Pahari and Dogri people. I find that hard to believe about Rajasthan Rajputs, I will do more research on that. Jammu Dogras also have those features.

Indian paharis/dogri nasal have mongloid genes, it shows in their face.

We have established that this is simply not true, the Harrapa DNA sample is based of one person who is unverified. Here are the real results for Rajasthan Rajputs:
The 2006 study by Sanghamitra Sengupta has some Y-DNA data on the Rajputs. However, we should consider that many people in Rajasthan claim to be so called Rajputs, even instrument players, camel herdsman and nomads at that! These geneticists can't really authenticate which individuals are real Rajputs and which ones are fake Rajputs, thus the data must misrepresent the over all Rajput Y-DNA demographics. Also, the Rajputs are an elite who aren't easily discernible to the average person or tourist in Rajasthan as they are not seen as average folks on the street, etc. Regardless, Sengupta's data mainly shows an R1-R2-J2 assortment, which is rather typical for upper caste/dvija Hindus in general.

Rajput (India, North, South Asia; High Caste, Indo-European)

• 5/28 = 17.8% H1–M052
• 1/28 = 3.57% H-M069
• 9/28= 32.14 % R1a1-M017
• 1/28 = 3.57% C5-M356
• 3/28 = 10.71% J2b2-M241
• 1/28= 3.57% J2a-M410
• 2/28 = 7.14% L3-M357
• 1/28= 3.57% F*-M089/M213
• 1/28 = 3.57% J1-M267
• 4/28= 14.28% R2- M124

The link to the study is here, I believe that it is more significant then the Harrapa DNA results as it is based of multiple participants
Polarity and Temporality of High-Resolution Y-Chromosome Distributions in India Identify Both Indigenous and Exogenous Expansions and Reveal Minor Genetic Influence of Central Asian Pastoralists

We are not talking about haplogroups but ASI-ANI.