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By Aakar Patel
Published: August 23, 2015

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It is not easy being a television analyst in times, such as they are now, when India is at war with Pakistan.

Not a real war of course, because we can no longer have such a thing after the mindless fireworks of Pokhran and Chaghi. I mean this childish sparring over whether or not we should have talks. To me it is difficult to understand why we are stopping people from meeting in this day and age when they can communicate whatever they want to over Skype and telephone and email and the rest. But perhaps, I do not understand the subtleties of international diplomacy. What appears to me to be stupidity and stubbornness might well actually be some stroke of Chanakyan genius.

Anyway, what I was saying was that it is not easy to be an analyst in these times when one is independent-minded. It is not possible for me to take the party line or the national line as seems to come so easily to others in the studio. To me, fact and context are important. I was blindly nationalistic for a long time, but one matures as one reads and encounters the world.

One understands the nature of regional nationalism as being a zero-sum game. Meaning I can only win if you lose and are seen to lose, and any benefit to you necessarily comes at a loss to me.

What is the nature of our nationalism here in India? It is anti-Pakistan and anti-China. It does not allow for nuance or shade. We have to fully subscribe to it or be seen as defiant if not outright hostile. We always have to be anti-Pakistan even if there is damage to us or no benefit to India in such a position (and there is zero benefit to India in not allowing old Sartaj Aziz to meet the blowhards of the Hurriyat).

We belittle India — ‘the world’s largest democracy’ as we do not tire of reminding people — when we lock up our own citizens for fear that they will gossip with the enemy. We show ourselves as not a confident republic by such actions. This must be obvious to the most closed minded analyst. And yet to say this on television is to elicit gasps of astonishment and accusations of being anti-national.

The other thing is being labelled when one holds a particular view in a particular instance. This comes from our conviction that all of us are dyed in some sort of ideology that cannot be escaped through logic and reason. We loosely use terms like ‘left’ and ‘liberal’ and ‘right’ without properly understanding them. I suppose one reason is that we have categories that are based on hate, like Hindutva, which offers nothing positive to Hindus, only anger and bitterness against Muslims and Christians.

People who have this sort of hatred will find it difficult to separate their mindset and their emotion from the issue at hand, whatever it may be. But why must we all line up in agreement behind them? I do not and cannot.

One anchor said during the debate that “we all are agreed in the studio that Pakistan is to blame if the talks collapse”. But I did not agree. It was just assumed that because this was an India versus Pakistan issue, all Indians would or should back the government position.

The assumption is that the lines have been drawn and the two sides have gone to battle. All of us, whether analysts or politicians or citizens or cricketers or housewives, must see the other side as an enemy and must reject everything it says or does even if we gain nothing from it. I am no longer able to subscribe to this stupidity. This makes TV appearances difficult for me.

The clever ones will ask why I continue to do them if I hate them so much or at least find them unpleasant, which I do. The reason is, of course, that I am paid to do this work. And sometimes, not often, it is enjoyable. The other reason is that there are some who may also think in the same way as I do. It may not be a large number, but I would like to believe that there is a group of us who reject the madness and the pettiness.

The last refuge of a scoundrel - The Express Tribune
 
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The author is a arm chair rogue scoundrel sitting in AC room , he is not facing any bullets from terrorists in kashmir or punjab rt? So he is welcome to give all sorts of bullsh***. Lets put him in front of the barrel and know what his opinion is.
 
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The author is a arm chair rogue scoundrel sitting in AC room , he is not facing any bullets from terrorists in kashmir or punjab rt? So he is welcome to give all sorts of bullsh***. Lets put him in front of the barrel and know what his opinion is.

Don't bother.

@MBI Munshi and @RiazHaq earn their daily bread posting anything and everything negative every written, analysed, painted, portrayed, 'you get the picture' about India.

There was a time when I used to get pissed off, corner them and watch them squirm.For a while I used to sit back and get amused. Now I am plain bored.

What I have realised is, that they rave and rant because all their bile and hatred that keep piling up, has no place to go.

No we are not disintegrating as so many PDF hopefuls and think tanks have been prophesizing for ages.

Our apparently "call centre" economy is not collapsing as predicted but is growing faster than China now.

National integrity remains the strong with the majority of populace choosing nationalism over petty regionalism or casteism.

Our defence acquisitions are a major cause for heartburn in the region.


Our leadership is well, hated by the haters and loved across the planet.

I sympathize with the haters. I really do. But they to have a job to do. It's alright.

We Indians can now afford to be magnanimous. Take a pause and take a bow gents, we have come a long away indeed from 1947.
 
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The author is a arm chair rogue scoundrel sitting in AC room , he is not facing any bullets from terrorists in kashmir or punjab rt? So he is welcome to give all sorts of bullsh***. Lets put him in front of the barrel and know what his opinion is.

well off course you gonna whinge about it, as he is right to say this about the people like you "The other thing is being labelled when one holds a particular view in a particular instance. This comes from our conviction that all of us are dyed in some sort of ideology that cannot be escaped through logic and reason. We loosely use terms like ‘left’ and ‘liberal’ and ‘right’ without properly understanding them. I suppose one reason is that we have categories that are based on hate, like Hindutva, which offers nothing positive to Hindus, only anger and bitterness against Muslims and Christians." you guys really need to open up your dumb Hindutva brains. If you really wana have a war than be it, we are always ready for it. Because peace is not an Ideology of a Hindutva, their is no difference between you guys and the Zionists.
It's all about the China Pakistan Economic Corridor, you hypocrites don't want Pakistan to prosper, because if we do you will not be able to handle us as an economic rivals. And we are completely aware of our foes who are as much jealous as you are about the china and Pakistan economic Corridor. If you wana have a war, than come right in front of us like a man, not like a pimps who hide behind the back of bit*es.
 
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Don't bother.

@MBI Munshi and @RiazHaq earn their daily bread posting anything and everything negative every written, analysed, painted, portrayed, 'you get the picture' about India.

There was a time when I used to get pissed off, corner them and watch them squirm.For a while I used to sit back and get amused. Now I am plain bored.

What I have realised is, that they rave and rant because all their bile and hatred that keep piling up, has no place to go.

No we are not disintegrating as so many PDF hopefuls and think tanks have been prophesizing for ages.

Our apparently "call centre" economy is not collapsing as predicted but is growing faster than China now.

National integrity remains the strong with the majority of populace choosing nationalism over petty regionalism or casteism.

Our defence acquisitions are a major cause for heartburn in the region.


Our leadership is well, hated by the haters and loved across the planet.

I sympathize with the haters. I really do. But they to have a job to do. It's alright.

We Indians can now afford to be magnanimous. Take a pause and take a bow gents, we have come a long away indeed from 1947.
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well off course you gonna whinge about it, as he is right to say this about the people like you "The other thing is being labelled when one holds a particular view in a particular instance. This comes from our conviction that all of us are dyed in some sort of ideology that cannot be escaped through logic and reason. We loosely use terms like ‘left’ and ‘liberal’ and ‘right’ without properly understanding them. I suppose one reason is that we have categories that are based on hate, like Hindutva, which offers nothing positive to Hindus, only anger and bitterness against Muslims and Christians." you guys really need to open up your dumb Hindutva brains. If you really wana have a war than be it, we are always ready for it. Because peace is not an Ideology of a Hindutva, their is no difference between you guys and the Zionists.
It's all about the China Pakistan Economic Corridor, you hypocrites don't want Pakistan to prosper, because if we do you will not be able to handle us as an economic rivals. And we are completely aware of our foes who are as much jealous as you are about the china and Pakistan economic Corridor. If you wana have a war, than come right in front of us like a man, not like a pimps who hide behind the back of bit*es.
You are cowards , you can do nothing except agitating Kashmiris and making their life hell

You want Kashmir, is that right hmmmm??????
Who is stopping you, why not come and take it
Are you afraid of cowards Hindutva baniya Dalit army, is that so
I thought 1muslim=10 kaffir hmmm?? Are you afraid of war with us black short yindu people??
Enough of your bravado..... I'm tired of this daily bitching of you martial race and superior religion people
I am again saying you are cowards and always will be
 
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You are cowards , you can do nothing except agitating Kashmiris and making their life hell

You want Kashmir, is that right hmmmm??????
Who is stopping you, why not come and take it
Are you afraid of cowards Hindutva baniya Dalit army, is that so
I thought 1muslim=10 kaffir hmmm?? Are you afraid of war with us black short yindu people??
Enough of your bravado..... I'm tired of this daily bitching of you martial race and superior religion people
I am again saying you are cowards and always will be

oh so we are the ones now who are agitating kashmiris? Wow u guys truly are the masters of liars. Who has killed more than hundred thousand kashmiris? Pakistanis? is that what you think? Who killed more than 50000 Sikhs? Pakistanis?

I mean who let you to even join this forum? how old are you 8 years or 4 years? I reckon you are 9 years old.

Yes we do want Kashmir thats the reality, but what is the most amazing reality is that Kashmiris want us, they always chant that we are Pakistanis and Pakistan is ours. What do you wana say about this? Is this a Pakistani propaganda?

Who is stopping us? good relations with rest of the world. But, patience has limits anyway.

No, we are not afraid of a smelly cowards hindutva army, we have confronted them many times, and they know how good we are, infect you can ask one pf them who has fought any war with us and he will tell you if he has survived from one of them.

And no you are wrong 1 Muslim is not equal to 10 kafirs, but 1 Muslim is equal to 100 kafirs. And you think that it isnt true than ask your so called superior army who fights everyday with Mujahideens in Kashmir and everyday they lose 10 to 20 soldiers. Your Government never tells you the real picture, why is it that an egoistic guy like modi wants to sit for the talks? kid if you deny this than I am quite sure you havent been to Kashmir yet.

And you said enough of our bravado, if you are fed-up than why the heck you dont leave this forum and join one where u will be satisfied. You are kinda bi*c* who whinges too much.

If you think we are cowards, than you wont have to wait to see, the war is near bw us, dont worry. And by the way I am planing to come to India soon, why dont you send me your address. I will visit you myself and will say everything word by word right on your face.
 
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oh so we are the ones now who are agitating kashmiris? Wow u guys truly are the masters of liars. Who has killed more than hundred thousand kashmiris? Pakistanis? is that what you think? Who killed more than 50000 Sikhs? Pakistanis?

I mean who let you to even join this forum? how old are you 8 years or 4 years? I reckon you are 9 years old.

Yes we do want Kashmir thats the reality, but what is the most amazing reality is that Kashmiris want us, they always chant that we are Pakistanis and Pakistan is ours. What do you wana say about this? Is this a Pakistani propaganda?

Who is stopping us? good relations with rest of the world. But, patience has limits anyway.

No, we are not afraid of a smelly cowards hindutva army, we have confronted them many times, and they know how good we are, infect you can ask one pf them who has fought any war with us and he will tell you if he has survived from one of them.

And no you are wrong 1 Muslim is not equal to 10 kafirs, but 1 Muslim is equal to 100 kafirs. And you think that it isnt true than ask your so called superior army who fights everyday with Mujahideens in Kashmir and everyday they lose 10 to 20 soldiers. Your Government never tells you the real picture, why is it that an egoistic guy like modi wants to sit for the talks? kid if you deny this than I am quite sure you havent been to Kashmir yet.

And you said enough of our bravado, if you are fed-up than why the heck you dont leave this forum and join one where u will be satisfied. You are kinda bi*c* who whinges too much.

If you think we are cowards, than you wont have to wait to see, the war is near bw us, dont worry. And by the way I am planing to come to India soon, why dont you send me your address. I will visit you myself and will say everything word by word right on your face.

oh so we are the ones now who are agitating kashmiris? Wow u guys truly are the masters of liars. Who has killed more than hundred thousand kashmiris? Pakistanis? is that what you think? Who killed more than 50000 Sikhs? Pakistanis?

I mean who let you to even join this forum? how old are you 8 years or 4 years? I reckon you are 9 years old.

Yes we do want Kashmir thats the reality, but what is the most amazing reality is that Kashmiris want us, they always chant that we are Pakistanis and Pakistan is ours. What do you wana say about this? Is this a Pakistani propaganda?

Who is stopping us? good relations with rest of the world. But, patience has limits anyway.

No, we are not afraid of a smelly cowards hindutva army, we have confronted them many times, and they know how good we are, infect you can ask one pf them who has fought any war with us and he will tell you if he has survived from one of them.

And no you are wrong 1 Muslim is not equal to 10 kafirs, but 1 Muslim is equal to 100 kafirs. And you think that it isnt true than ask your so called superior army who fights everyday with Mujahideens in Kashmir and everyday they lose 10 to 20 soldiers. Your Government never tells you the real picture, why is it that an egoistic guy like modi wants to sit for the talks? kid if you deny this than I am quite sure you havent been to Kashmir yet.

And you said enough of our bravado, if you are fed-up than why the heck you dont leave this forum and join one where u will be satisfied. You are kinda bi*c* who whinges too much.

If you think we are cowards, than you wont have to wait to see, the war is near bw us, dont worry. And by the way I am planing to come to India soon, why dont you send me your address. I will visit you myself and will say everything word by word right on your face.
All talk again, oh my
Get a job dear
I m not interested in debate with you
Have a nice day
 
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Any country that actually has enemies will be nationalistic. Try supporting Al Qaeda or Russia or even Iran (until recently) in US and you will be met with blanket hostility. One guy on a radio show tried to explain the Ukraine situation from the Russian point of view and had to be practically escorted out. A country with no enemies like France or Belgium can afford to be impartial and non nationalistic. Unity is important when there is danger that is how Homo Sapiens evolved.
 
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To me it is difficult to understand why we are stopping people from meeting in this day and age when they can communicate whatever they want to over Skype and telephone and email and the rest. But perhaps, I do not understand the subtleties of international diplomacy. What appears to me to be stupidity and stubbornness might well actually be some stroke of Chanakyan genius.

India's aim is to increase the international isolation of Pakistan. Basically blame Pakistan for failure of talks. Our media are part of this whole exercise. Pakistan's aim is to internationalize the Kashmir issue at every point. Basically, both countries know that talks are useless and will not solve anything. Neither dialogue nor war will serve any purpose. Something the idiot writer is unable to understand.
 
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oh so we are the ones now who are agitating kashmiris? Wow u guys truly are the masters of liars. Who has killed more than hundred thousand kashmiris? Pakistanis? is that what you think? Who killed more than 50000 Sikhs? Pakistanis?

I mean who let you to even join this forum? how old are you 8 years or 4 years? I reckon you are 9 years old.

Yes we do want Kashmir thats the reality, but what is the most amazing reality is that Kashmiris want us, they always chant that we are Pakistanis and Pakistan is ours. What do you wana say about this? Is this a Pakistani propaganda?

Who is stopping us? good relations with rest of the world. But, patience has limits anyway.

No, we are not afraid of a smelly cowards hindutva army, we have confronted them many times, and they know how good we are, infect you can ask one pf them who has fought any war with us and he will tell you if he has survived from one of them.

And no you are wrong 1 Muslim is not equal to 10 kafirs, but 1 Muslim is equal to 100 kafirs. And you think that it isnt true than ask your so called superior army who fights everyday with Mujahideens in Kashmir and everyday they lose 10 to 20 soldiers. Your Government never tells you the real picture, why is it that an egoistic guy like modi wants to sit for the talks? kid if you deny this than I am quite sure you havent been to Kashmir yet.

And you said enough of our bravado, if you are fed-up than why the heck you dont leave this forum and join one where u will be satisfied. You are kinda bi*c* who whinges too much.

If you think we are cowards, than you wont have to wait to see, the war is near bw us, dont worry. And by the way I am planing to come to India soon, why dont you send me your address. I will visit you myself and will say everything word by word right on your face.
Recently madarsa se graduate huen hain kya bhaijaan? Kya ilm hain apki or mashallah itna gussa:rofl:
 
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You are cowards , you can do nothing except agitating Kashmiris and making their life hell

You want Kashmir, is that right hmmmm??????
Who is stopping you, why not come and take it
Are you afraid of cowards Hindutva baniya Dalit army, is that so
I thought 1muslim=10 kaffir hmmm?? Are you afraid of war with us black short yindu people??
Enough of your bravado..... I'm tired of this daily bitching of you martial race and superior religion people
I am again saying you are cowards and always will be
Umm little correction most of the martial races are Hindu not Muslim just like 36 Victoria cross were Hindus/Sikhs and just 9 were Muslims.
 
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Is the title liked to the famous statement "Patriotism is the Last refuge of a Scoundrel" ?
 
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