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The Largest Country Without Medals in Rio: Pakistan

Years ago someone said this on Defence.pk - Pakistanis are the only people in the world who get to chose their ancestry/race based on the timing, situation and topic at hand.
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Anyway they actually are South Asians only. Good to see em accepting the truth.

Low IQ, there's no race called 'South Asian'. What makes you think a Pashtun and a Monipuri belongs to the same race?
 
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Agreed, mate. The Jenaraals missed this boat. Solution. Go into import business. Import truckload of these 'Groids and rest assured next Olympics they will need a container to bring back the medals.


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Bring them in ...

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and win medals

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Finally a sane voice in the thread, the rest of the posters just resorted to the usual tantrum.
The rational for posting this thread was to show where our priorities are not only in Pakistan but as a region as whole, I am not defending Afghanistan as a matter of Afghanistan is also fucked up, the national olympic committee who sent the Afghan athletes had to beg for funding from NGOs to buy their tickets. India can do far better comparing to what the Chinese are doing. Iran is the only bright spot here with medals on the table.

So let us as region look in the mirror and think objectively that with all the chest thumping and bravodo our priorities are really screwed up.

/Peace

this thread throws up one good reason why desi will never win bcos they compare with each other instead of setting high standards.

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That is what I am trying to get into here, as a region and as our collective thinking we have got a lot of work to do.
 
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I never claimed South Asian is a race. My point was a broader one and not only in the "South Asian" context. Duffer.

So what exactly is South Asian about a Pashtun? I doubt you know your own 'broader point'.

nick_low_iq said:
...chose their ancestry/race based on the timing, situation and topic at hand.

Anyway they actually are South Asians only.
 
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Dafne Schippers (Dutch pronunciation: [ˈdɑfnə ˈsxɪpərs]; born 15 June 1992) is a Dutch athlete, competing in heptathlon and the sprints. She is the 2015 World Champion and winner of 2016 Olympic silver at the 200 metres. She holds the European record of 21.63 seconds and is the third fastest woman of all time at this distance.

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Exception proves the rule.

Even after this (getting a gold in world championship,holding record for Europe, and being third fastest runner for 200m since ever), she has really struggled in this Olympic. It proves my point. If you would make trannies compete with women in sports, women would lose. Why even bother? If some intersex/tranny is competing in track and field, winner would be decided beforehand, unless rest of competition dope.
 
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So what exactly is South Asian about a Pashtun? I doubt you know your own 'broader point'.[/QUOT

Most Pakistanis arent Pashtuns. Punjabis, Sindhis, Mohajirs, Kashmiris etc. together make up 80 % of Pakistanis and they are all South Asians.

Event then I believe Pashtuns can be called South Asian. What else would you call them ? They arent Middle Eastern or Central Asians for sure.
 
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Agreed, mate. The Jenaraals missed this boat. Solution. Go into import business. Import truckload of these 'Groids and rest assured next Olympics they will need a container to bring back the medals.


:pakistan:


Bring them in ...

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and win medals

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countries have routinely recruited athletes from various African countries to participate in their teams, prompting accusations of unfair competition and, sometimes, of using false documents to register new roster members. And although for the 2016 Olympic games there is no evidence of wrongdoing by these countries, this year they will again feature many Africans on their teams, prompting new allegations of an uneven playing field.

Take Qatar, for example. Their men’s athletics team consists of two Sudanese-born runners, one born in Morocco, one in Nigeria, one in Egypt, one in Kenya, and only two athletes born in Qatar. Or take Bahrain. Their athletics men’s team has four athletes born in Kenya, three in Ethiopia, one in Nigeria, one in Morocco and none in Bahrain. Their women’s team also features three athletes born in Ethiopia, another three in Nigeria, one in Kenya and none born in Bahrain (although one of those born in Nigeria is half-Bahraini). Meanwhile, both women who qualified for the United Arab Emirates’ athletics team are from Ethiopia.

Changing country allegiances is not unheard of in international sports. It is quite common, though heavily regulated in international football, for example. However, the IAAF, which organizes and regulates international athletics events, is much more lax about athletes changing their nationalities. But the widespread practice of these countries have landed them in trouble before.

In 2005, a man going by the name ofTareq Mubarak Taher changed allegiance from Kenya to Bahrain. That year he won the 2000 meter steeplechase event at the World Youth Championships in Marrakech, Morocco. He was soon the object of an investigation surrounding his name and his date of birth. In 2007, it was determined that he had falsified his identity and had lied about his agein order to be able to participate in the under-17 World Youth Championships.

Another, maybe less controversial problem arose in the Asian Games in Incheon, South Korea, in 2014. Then, Qatar and Bahrain faced heavy criticism from other athletes who felt they were unjustly up against unreachable opposition. Back then,Chinese athlete Su Bingtian said about his African-born rivalsthat: “They are more powerful and athletic. Physically we are at a disadvantage.” Maybe Bingtian was smarting from the fact that in Incheon, 14 of 22 individual events were won by athletes of African origin.

Though this phenomenon has become more pronounced in recent years, it started since at least 2003, when many top Kenyan athletes were persuaded by Qatar and Bahrain to change national allegiances in time for the 2004 Olympics. These Gulf Nations have more funds to care for their athletes, which means better compensation, but not only. The Olympics are primarily an amateur event, in which participants compete for free, and this means that the African athletes who chose to change national teams also need other perks to be persuaded. These are usually translated to access to better training grounds, top-of-the art facilities, and better physical preparation.

The Qatari government in particular is notorious for offering large sums to those athletes it wants to recruit for their national athletic teams, a practice that has become so widespread that even absurd rumors about it get some credibility. Last year, for example, it was said that Qatar offered Kenyan javelin champion Julius Yego one billion Kenyan Shillings (about ten million dollars) to change nationalities. Money, however, is not the only reason for the changes.

Certain African teams, in particular Kenya, Nigeria, Ethiopia and Morocco, are usually very strong and highly competitive, and it can be a challenge to find a spot to compete at the highest level for them, especially given their limited budget. Asked about his change from Kenya to Bahrain, a country he will represent in Rio, Albert Kibihii Rop said in 2014: “It’s hard to make the team in Kenya. Everyone is very strong I sought a way (to get on).” But it might also be hard for top athletes from these African countries to keep their spot in their countries of origin.

Last year, three Nigerians held the record for the fastest 100 meters in Africa, Europe and Asia. meaning that two of these, top athletes in the world, changed their nationality. One of them is Francis Obikwelu, who settled in Portugal as a teenager and, even though he competed first for Nigeria, after that country’s federation abandoned him during a career-threatening injury, he decided to switch and compete for his adopted country. Under his new citizenship, he earned a silver medal in Athens 2004, establishing an European record in the 100 meters race, 9.86 seconds.

There is also Femi Ogunode, who holds the Asian record. He says his move to Qatar in 2009, a country he will represent in Rio, when he was 18 was a “calculated risk” to escape “nepotism and corruption in Nigerian athletics.” He established the Asian 100 meters record at the Asian Athletics Championship, where he ran in 9.91 seconds.

The trend of African-born athletes changing nationalities seems likely to continue, as Turkey also has begun the practice of recruiting foreign athletes and, of course, European countries and the United States have also employed this tactic.

And though Qatar has not earned any medals in athletics from their African imports, and Bahrain only one bronze medal—for the 1,500 meters race in London 2012 —their adopted athletes have been immensely successful at continental competitions and world championships, so nothing suggests they’ll change tactics soon

http://www.okayafrica.com/sports/ri...-poach-african-players-to-win-olympic-medals/

Bahrain’s gold-medal Olympic track team is almost entirely made up of Africans


http://qz.com/759279/bahrains-gold-medal-olympic-track-team-is-almost-entirely-made-up-of-africans/
 
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What else would you call them ? They arent Middle Eastern or Central Asians for sure.

What you call them doesn't define them. And that's my point; these are geographical groupings made for convenience or to further political agendas - nothing's set in stone.

It's not for Indians to decide whether a Pashtun is West Asian or South Asian. There's really no substantial link that somehow makes them closer to a Tamil than to an Anatolian. And maybe vice versa.
 
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What you call them doesn't define them. And that's my point; these are geographical groupings made for convenience or to further political agendas - nothing's set in stone.

It's not for Indians to decide whether a Pashtun is West Asian or South Asian. There's really no substantial link that somehow makes them closer to a Tamil than to an Anatolian. And maybe vice versa.

Whether or not a person is south Asian depends on the region he/she belongs to. Since Pakistan is in South Asia as most of the world considers it, not just Indians then the Pashtuns there too would be South Asians.

Anyway even if you exclude the Pashtuns then most Pakistanis are South Asians. That's the point I made.

Your point has nothing to do with my original point. Please dont digress.
 
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Agreed, mate. The Jenaraals missed this boat. Solution. Go into import business. Import truckload of these 'Groids and rest assured next Olympics they will need a container to bring back the medals.


:pakistan:


Bring them in ...

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and win medals

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Groids? Seriously dude?
 
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Years ago someone said this on Defence.pk - Pakistanis are the only people in the world who get to chose their ancestry/race based on the timing, situation and topic at hand.
:lol:

Anyway they actually are South Asians only. Good to see em accepting the truth.
When south asian became race/ancestry ? I thought its geographic location of regions so dont know why you are trolling here when you indians actually hijack Pakistani claim on IVC
 
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When south asian became race/ancestry ? I thought its geographic location of regions so dont know why you are trolling here when you indians actually hijack Pakistani claim on IVC

He already clarified he meant it as a geographic term not a racial one.

What more you want him to say?
 
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He already clarified he meant it as a geographic term not a racial one.

What more you want him to say?
You did not read the context of his post

This indian robinhood said Pakistani are accepting that they are south asian

This nick indian replied pakistani change race/ancestry based on topic under discussion


So what is this ?
 
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