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i am one of them..............so what?
never forget 1984 is of attak on akal thakt and riots.
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i am one of them..............so what?
never forget 1984 is of attak on akal thakt and riots.
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Cause they are Indians, just like 200m+ other muslims in India.
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May be they are - just like the thread starter.
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But, how can Khalisthan get land of Pakistan?
i want my lahore back.............pakistan stole it
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BTW does any of my pakistani fella know the capital of old sikh empire and if khalistan advances, the future capital..
Ohhhh Yeahhhhhhhhhh LAHORE
Ohhhh Yeahhhhhhhhhh LAHORE
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i want my lahore back.............pakistan stole it
Yeh, if India ever goes to war with Pakistan again, instead of beating them, we should also take rest of Punjab back of them too.
ps. Im happy Ludihanna is in India.
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May be they are citizens of that country.
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CONGRESS HAS DONE DISASTERS>>>ONE WAS CREATION OF PAKISTAN LETTING HAPPEN AND SECOND WAS1984 RIOTS..though I think OP blue star was needed just like attack on Lal Masjid by Pakistan because they had some sinister objectives in head.
For those who think it was Hindu vs Sikh thing..being a member of RSS myself ..we fought against congress mercenaries during the riots.Khushwant Singh wo is always critical about RSS said tis about 1984
"RSS has played an honorable role in maintaining Hindu-Sikh unity before and after the murder of Indira Gandhi in Delhi and in other places"
"It was the Congress (I) leaders who instigated mobs in 1984 and got more than 3000 people killed. I must give due credit to RSS and the BJP for showing courage and protecting helpless Sikhs during those difficult days. No less a person than Atal Bihari Vajpayee himself intervened at a couple of places to help poor taxi drivers.
For those who think it was Hindu vs Sikh thing..being a member of RSS myself ..we fought against congress mercenaries during the riots.Khushwant Singh wo is always critical about RSS said tis about 1984
"RSS has played an honorable role in maintaining Hindu-Sikh unity before and after the murder of Indira Gandhi in Delhi and in other places"
"It was the Congress (I) leaders who instigated mobs in 1984 and got more than 3000 people killed. I must give due credit to RSS and the BJP for showing courage and protecting helpless Sikhs during those difficult days. No less a person than Atal Bihari Vajpayee himself intervened at a couple of places to help poor taxi drivers.
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the biggest disaster was the creation of india in 1947.
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No it wasn't India represent 1/6th of world popl rapidly developing from poor to richess..the biggest disaster was creation of Pakistan in 1947 even the founder of your country Jinnah admitted that..
he said following lines
"I acted according to my best judgment but the way things have shaped since then has made me realize that this was perhaps the greatest blunder of my political life."
source
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the source is an indian nationalist source.why would you even bother posting that.
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1984 Sikh Genocide: Witness pressurised to save Sajjan Kumar
April 14th, 2011
Delhi, India: For more than 26 years, the victims of the 1984 Sikh Genocide have been fighting a long and lonely battle for justice. Justice is not only being delayed but virtually denied by powerful Congress leaders ironically even by those whose job is to protect the interests of the minorities.
Former member of Parliament Sajjan Kumar has been accused of instigating mobs to kill innocent Sikhs in 1984 in the aftermath of Indira Gandhis assassination. However, Harinder Baweja, Editor, investigations, has exposed the ugly, uncomfortable truth about him.
A special investigation by Headlines Today has found that Nirpreet Kaur, a key witness against Sajjan Kumar, was being pressurised by H.S. Hanspal, a senior member of the Minorities Commission.
Hanspal, a prominent Congressman, who was the chief whip for the party in the Rajya Sabha in the early 80s, can be seen, sitting in his office, speaking to Nirpreet Kaur, who saw Sajjan Kumar come to Raj Nagar locality in Delhi Cantt during the riots and say, Ek bhi sardar zinda nahi bachna chaheye (Not a single sardar should remain alive).
In the meeting in his office, he tells Nirpreet to sit down aamne saamne (face-to-face) with the person she was to soon testify against. Headlines Today accompanied Nirpreet to Hanspals office. The Minorities Commission member was a bit wary of a stranger but that doesnt stop him from trying to persuade Nirpreet to have a meeting with Sajjan Kumar.
Hanspal (in Punjabi): Compensation wali gal karni heh yaan doosri gal karni heh (You want to talk about compensation or the other thing?)
Nirpreet: Tussi unha nu puchho, ko o ki chande neh (You ask him (Sajjan Kumar) what he wants.
A little later
Hanspal (gesturing towards the Headlines Today reporter): Can we talk for two minutes?
koi nahi, enna nu patta hai sab kuchh kyon ki mein kuchh witness toh chuppana nahi chandi jo vi hoyega enha de samne hoyega. (Never mind, he knows everything because I dont want to hide anything from the witnesses).
A little later
Nirpreet: Dekho, marya taan hai unha ne. Uthe aa ke meri gal khadi ho jaandi heh. Chalo, thwade kehan the, mein case vapas vi ley laine haan, par o kuchh taan karan, public apology. Kuchh mehsoos taan karan (See, he has murdered.. that is where I get stuck. Even if I withdraw the case because you are telling me to, he should also do something, some public apology. He should also feel that he has done a wrong).
Hanspal: Amne saamne baith ke gal kar lo (Sit in front of each other and talk).
Nirpreet: O court vich aande ne, hasde khedde, mera haur man sarda heh. Unha nu bilkul vi sharma nahi heh ki assi enna vada kam keet heh. (He (Sajjan) comes to court smiling and it makes me feel worse. He has no shame; no realization that he has done such a big crime.
Hanspal: Baith ke gal karan ge.
Hanspal is not speaking about compensation, as his job profile demands. He continues to exert pressure on Nirpreet. He wants her to sit face-to-face with Sajjan Kumar and he keeps telling her, not once but three times, to call Ahulwalia, a common friend.
Hanspal: Should I call Ahluwalia?
Nirpreet: Hearings are on in the court. Ill call him.
Hanspal is keen on an early meeting and once again says he could call Ahluwalia.
Nirpreet: Can you give me his number?
Hanspal: Shall I call Ahluwalia? I have his number.
Nirpreet: Yes please call.
Hanspal: Tussi mainu shaam nu das deyo (Let me know by the evening). Kal ya parso beh jao (Sit down tomorrow or the day after).
Nirpreet has not just given graphic details of how her father, Nirmal Singh, was killed, but has now also testified in court on what exactly happened that morning in 1984, when Sajjan Kumar came to the Raj Bagh locality, where she stayed with her parents.
Nirpreet Kaur says, The mob caught hold of my father. Balwan Khokhar and Mahendra Yadav were there. They sprinkled kerosene over him and started looking for a match box and a policeman told them, doob maro, tum se ek sardar bhi nahi jalta and then the policeman gave them a match box to set my father on fire. My father jumped into a nearby nullah to save himself, but the mob came back and Khokhar hit my father with a rod.
The next morning, on November 2, Nirpreet saw Congress leader Sajjan Kumar standing in a police jeep and addressing a mob. I saw a mob and heard the noise of slogans. Our vehicle stopped there and I saw that in the police vehicle Sajjan Kumar was standing and was addressing the mob, saying Ek bhi sardar jinda nahi bachna chahiye, jo ghar sardaron ka bacha hai, use bhi jala do. In sardaron ko maron, inhone hamari maan ko mara heh, ye saanp ke bachche hain
This is the testimony, Sajjan Kumar and his mediators wanted to stop. Nirpreets startling claim is that she was offered as much as Rs three crore to turn hostile.
Headlines Today tried to contact senior Congress leader Sajjan Kumar, but he refused to comment.
Says Nirpreet, I was offered Rs three crore to change my testimony. Hanspal kept telling me to not mention Sajjan Kumars name.
Global Sikh News » 1984 Sikh Genocide: Witness pressurised to save Sajjan Kumar
April 14th, 2011
Delhi, India: For more than 26 years, the victims of the 1984 Sikh Genocide have been fighting a long and lonely battle for justice. Justice is not only being delayed but virtually denied by powerful Congress leaders ironically even by those whose job is to protect the interests of the minorities.
Former member of Parliament Sajjan Kumar has been accused of instigating mobs to kill innocent Sikhs in 1984 in the aftermath of Indira Gandhis assassination. However, Harinder Baweja, Editor, investigations, has exposed the ugly, uncomfortable truth about him.
A special investigation by Headlines Today has found that Nirpreet Kaur, a key witness against Sajjan Kumar, was being pressurised by H.S. Hanspal, a senior member of the Minorities Commission.
Hanspal, a prominent Congressman, who was the chief whip for the party in the Rajya Sabha in the early 80s, can be seen, sitting in his office, speaking to Nirpreet Kaur, who saw Sajjan Kumar come to Raj Nagar locality in Delhi Cantt during the riots and say, Ek bhi sardar zinda nahi bachna chaheye (Not a single sardar should remain alive).
In the meeting in his office, he tells Nirpreet to sit down aamne saamne (face-to-face) with the person she was to soon testify against. Headlines Today accompanied Nirpreet to Hanspals office. The Minorities Commission member was a bit wary of a stranger but that doesnt stop him from trying to persuade Nirpreet to have a meeting with Sajjan Kumar.
Hanspal (in Punjabi): Compensation wali gal karni heh yaan doosri gal karni heh (You want to talk about compensation or the other thing?)
Nirpreet: Tussi unha nu puchho, ko o ki chande neh (You ask him (Sajjan Kumar) what he wants.
A little later
Hanspal (gesturing towards the Headlines Today reporter): Can we talk for two minutes?
koi nahi, enna nu patta hai sab kuchh kyon ki mein kuchh witness toh chuppana nahi chandi jo vi hoyega enha de samne hoyega. (Never mind, he knows everything because I dont want to hide anything from the witnesses).
A little later
Nirpreet: Dekho, marya taan hai unha ne. Uthe aa ke meri gal khadi ho jaandi heh. Chalo, thwade kehan the, mein case vapas vi ley laine haan, par o kuchh taan karan, public apology. Kuchh mehsoos taan karan (See, he has murdered.. that is where I get stuck. Even if I withdraw the case because you are telling me to, he should also do something, some public apology. He should also feel that he has done a wrong).
Hanspal: Amne saamne baith ke gal kar lo (Sit in front of each other and talk).
Nirpreet: O court vich aande ne, hasde khedde, mera haur man sarda heh. Unha nu bilkul vi sharma nahi heh ki assi enna vada kam keet heh. (He (Sajjan) comes to court smiling and it makes me feel worse. He has no shame; no realization that he has done such a big crime.
Hanspal: Baith ke gal karan ge.
Hanspal is not speaking about compensation, as his job profile demands. He continues to exert pressure on Nirpreet. He wants her to sit face-to-face with Sajjan Kumar and he keeps telling her, not once but three times, to call Ahulwalia, a common friend.
Hanspal: Should I call Ahluwalia?
Nirpreet: Hearings are on in the court. Ill call him.
Hanspal is keen on an early meeting and once again says he could call Ahluwalia.
Nirpreet: Can you give me his number?
Hanspal: Shall I call Ahluwalia? I have his number.
Nirpreet: Yes please call.
Hanspal: Tussi mainu shaam nu das deyo (Let me know by the evening). Kal ya parso beh jao (Sit down tomorrow or the day after).
Nirpreet has not just given graphic details of how her father, Nirmal Singh, was killed, but has now also testified in court on what exactly happened that morning in 1984, when Sajjan Kumar came to the Raj Bagh locality, where she stayed with her parents.
Nirpreet Kaur says, The mob caught hold of my father. Balwan Khokhar and Mahendra Yadav were there. They sprinkled kerosene over him and started looking for a match box and a policeman told them, doob maro, tum se ek sardar bhi nahi jalta and then the policeman gave them a match box to set my father on fire. My father jumped into a nearby nullah to save himself, but the mob came back and Khokhar hit my father with a rod.
The next morning, on November 2, Nirpreet saw Congress leader Sajjan Kumar standing in a police jeep and addressing a mob. I saw a mob and heard the noise of slogans. Our vehicle stopped there and I saw that in the police vehicle Sajjan Kumar was standing and was addressing the mob, saying Ek bhi sardar jinda nahi bachna chahiye, jo ghar sardaron ka bacha hai, use bhi jala do. In sardaron ko maron, inhone hamari maan ko mara heh, ye saanp ke bachche hain
This is the testimony, Sajjan Kumar and his mediators wanted to stop. Nirpreets startling claim is that she was offered as much as Rs three crore to turn hostile.
Headlines Today tried to contact senior Congress leader Sajjan Kumar, but he refused to comment.
Says Nirpreet, I was offered Rs three crore to change my testimony. Hanspal kept telling me to not mention Sajjan Kumars name.
Global Sikh News » 1984 Sikh Genocide: Witness pressurised to save Sajjan Kumar
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Khalistan!
Capital: Lahore
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Well to be honest, Khalisthan will mainly have land from India then Pakistan.
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well Khalistan will have Indian Punjab and Pakistani Punjab. Still there is large enough area in India but what left for Pakistan? lol
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