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The “Israel”-Hellenic Alliance That May Push Turkey to Cut Ties With Tel Aviv

Turkey is a strong country. Big boy. And If it calls big boy cousin Pakistan, we can tear Israel from behind like the fabricated gypsy European nation she is. :lol:
 
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Turkey is a strong country. Big boy. And If it calls big boy cousin Pakistan, we can tear Israel from behind like the fabricated gypsy European nation she is. :lol:
Decide, is Pakistan a toilet paper or a big boy? If you can't then keep your mouth shut.
 
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Decide, is Pakistan a toilet paper or a big boy? If you can't then keep your mouth shut.

Pakistan is a great country, with bad politicians. Pakistan and Turkey are the only badass Muslim nations left. But maybe Turkey is not exactly a 'Muslim' nation, but a secular nation. But at the end of the day, we know who is the creator. Allah swt.

I wonder that, too.

What exactly are you mad about brother?
 
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I understand

What is the problem, brother? I express myself in a very genuine fashion. You guys are not happy, fine. What can I do? But I am not trying to disrespect anyone. Especially Muslim brothers and sisters. Especially, during Ramadan. Please try to understand, brother.
 
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Pakistan is a great country, with bad politicians. Pakistan and Turkey are the only badass Muslim nations left. But maybe Turkey is not exactly a 'Muslim' nation, but a secular nation. But at the end of the day, we know who is the creator. Allah swt.



What exactly are you mad about brother?
It is not another man's war for Turkey. It is about limit the power of Israel in the middle east.

What is the problem, brother? I express myself in a very genuine fashion. You guys are not happy, fine. What can I do? But I am not trying to disrespect anyone. Especially Muslim brothers and sisters. Especially, during Ramadan. Please try to understand, brother.
If you cant look at your country from the world perspective You can guess Pakistan as toilet paper but is not.
 
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It is not another man's war for Turkey. It is about limit the power of Israel in the middle east.

Limit power? How? Your nation accept them internationally. Your nation accepts them as a country, where as Pakistan does not. Pakistanis are so fucking stupid, for your honor Pakistan doesn't even accept Armenia internationally, but Turkey does. Pakistani people, or the Muslims of Pakistan are very stupid.

We are being brothers, more loyal to the pasha than the pasha himself. Take care and Ramadan mubarak man.
 
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Limit power? How? Your nation accept them internationally. Your nation accepts them as a country, where as Pakistan does not. Pakistanis are so fucking stupid, for your honor Pakistan doesn't even accept Armenia, but Turkey does. Pakistani people, or the Muslims of Pakistan are very stupid.

We are being brothers, more loyal to the pasha than the pasha himself. Take care and Ramadan mubarak man.
Pragmatizm What we muslims couldnt understand.But we will.
 
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Limit power? How? Your nation accept them internationally. Your nation accepts them as a country, where as Pakistan does not. Pakistanis are so fucking stupid, for your honor Pakistan doesn't even accept Armenia internationally, but Turkey does. Pakistani people, or the Muslims of Pakistan are very stupid.

We are being brothers, more loyal to the pasha than the pasha himself. Take care and Ramadan mubarak man.
I seriously doubt Pakistan doesn't accept Armenia because of their love for Turkey/Turks.
Even on this forum, there're more anti-Turkish nonsense than you'd get on a Greek forum. :lol:

:lol: Sultan just woke up or what ??? Israel and Greece signed the Security pact way back in 2011..
I never see Jews complain about Golden Dawn Greeks that call for Jews to be gassed.

But Turkey is the Nazi lol.
 
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The “Israel”-Hellenic Alliance That May Push Turkey to Cut Ties With Tel Aviv
Written by Adam Garrie on 2018-05-15

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The Turkish government has just announced the effective expulsion of Eitan Na’eh, “Israel’s” Ambassador to Ankara. According to the Daily Sabah,

“Na’eh was asked to leave Turkey indefinitely by the Turkish ministry of foreign affairs following the Israeli bloodshed and his tweets”.

The move comes as Erdogan has openly challenged other nations that have formal relations with the occupier entity to question whether such relations are beneficial to the Muslim world. The clear targets of Erdogan’s challenge are President Sisi’s Egypt – Turkey’s hated East Mediterranean rival, a waffling Jordanian monarchy and Turkey’s pro-FETO (Gulenist) Albanian nemesis in the western Balkans.

From healthy relations to the ultimate strain

Of course, Turkey was the first Muslim majority nation to recognise “Israel” and prior to recent decades, Ankara and Tel Aviv have had a generally healthy relationship. This dramatically changed in 2010 when “Israeli” commandos illegally boarded the MV Mavi Marmara in international waters. The MV Mavi Marmara was a privately chartered Turkish flagged ship carrying mostly Turkish activists on their way to Gaza in order to deliver much needed humanitarian supplies to besieged Palestinians. The gruesome raid killed ten Turks and resulted in the lowest ebb in Ankara-Tel Aviv relations until now.

Pipeline politics no more

The incident resulted in the expulsion of Tel Aviv’s ambassador to Ankara and a formal downgrading in relations. In 2016, the two sides reconciled, primarily out of pragmatic motives. At the time, both “Israel” and Turkey hoped to jointly participate in a pipeline that would transport gas from northern Iraq through Turkey and into “Israel”.

However, since then, the plans for such Turkey to “Israel” East Mediterranean pipeline have stalled. Instead, Tel Aviv has pivoted closer to Turkey’s regional rival Egypt (which has said next to nothing about Palestine in recent days), while most importantly there is now talk of an EU sponsored East Mediterranean pipeline between “Israel”, Cyprus, Greece and Italy.

According to the pro-Brussels New Europe,

“The EastMed gas pipeline would circumvent Turkey, which has increased tensions with Cyprus, Greece and Israel recently, providing a way to transport newly discovered gas supplies from the East Mediterranean to Europe. The talks in Nicosia in May follow a memorandum of understanding regarding the EastMed pipeline, which was signed in December.

According to the Public Gas Corporation of Greece (DEPA), the EastMed will connect the recently discovered gas fields in the Levantine Basin, in the southeast Mediterranean, with mainland Greece and is projected to carry 8-14 billion cubic meters per year of natural gas to Greece and Europe.

According to DEPA, the approximately 1900 kilometer long pipeline (700 kilometers on-shore, 1200 off-shore) consists of the three following main sections, as well as compressor stations located in Cyprus and Crete: a pipeline from the fields to Cyprus, a pipeline connecting Cyprus to Crete, and a pipeline from Crete crossing mainland Greece up to the Ionian coast.

From there the EastMed can link up with the offshore Poseidon pipeline enabling the delivery of additional diversified sources from the Levantine to Italy and beyond. The EastMed pipeline is preliminarily designed to have exit points in Cyprus, Crete, and mainland Greece as well as the connection point with the Poseidon pipeline”.

The deal to create such a pipeline was sealed in December of 2017 while glowing reports from pro-EU media touted the deal as a means of allowing Europe to decrease its dependence on Russian gas while also offering “Israel” a chance to swap Turkey for EU partners. As Turkey’s long paralytic bid to join the EU is now de-facto over, both Europe and “Israel’s” cooperation over a new East Mediterranean gas pipeline has the effect of drawing Russia and Turkey into an even closer partnership than the one they are currently in.

At the moment the Turkstream pipeline designed to bring Russian gas into Europe via Turkey is a major joint project between Moscow and Ankara. Now, both the EU and “Israel” are looking to challenge this route with a pipeline of their own in a similar region. In reality, there is enough demand for gas in Europe and “Israel” to mean that both pipelines can coexist, but the geopolitical optics are clear enough. Tel Aviv has joined forces with the most anti-Ankara states in the EU in order to cut Turkey out of “Israel’s” future.

The importance of Turkey’s Soft Power in the Sunni Muslim world

President Erdogan has already proved himself to be the ‘Sultan of Soft Power’ in the wider Sunni Muslim world. Without clear leadership from Egypt, Saudi Arabia or Qatar and with Saddam’s always controversial Iraqi government long out of power, Erdogan has positioned himself as a champion for Palestine not only in Turkey and the Sunni Arab world but beyond. Because of this, one should never underestimate how far Turkey will take its support of Palestine vis-a-vis Tel Aviv, not least because the more Erdogan voices his opinions in support of Palestine, the more he is respected and supported both in Turkey and far beyond.

“Israel” supporting Turkey’s main rivals

Because “Israel” has taken clear moves away from Turkey and towards its hated Hellenic rivals, officials in Ankara who in the past may have been hesitant to sever ties with Tel Aviv because of economic considerations may now be much closer to doing so. “Israel’s” intensifying military cooperation with both Greece and Cyprus are a further sign that when it comes to Turkey, Tel Aviv is doing everything in its power to replace its once healthy Turkish partnership with that of countries with notoriously poor and always heated relations with Ankara.

Then there is the issue of Kurdish ethno-nationalism in both Syria and Iraq. Uniquely in the world, the United States and “Israel” are supporters of Kurdish separatism both in northern Syria and northern Iraq. President Erdogan has already made it clear that this is one of several red lines that “Israel” can cross in respect of maintaining even semi-normal relations. During the attempted illegal Kurdish succession from Iraq in the autumn of 2017, Erdogan posed the following rhetorical statements to Kurdish secessionists in Iraq,

“Who will recognize your independence? Israel. The world is not about Israel?…

…“You should know that the waving of Israeli flags there will not save you!”

Traditional Anti-Turkish lobbies in the US team up with the American Jewish lobby

Finally, it is not only in the Middle East and Mediterranean where “Israel” has taken up common positions with Turkey’s adversaries. In the United States, the powerful Jewish lobby has joined forceswith the comparatively smaller but still influential US based Hellenic and Armenian lobbies to protest the sale of US made F-35 jets to Ankara. While the move ultimately failed, it demonstrated that unlike in the past where the US Jewish lobby did not try to antagonise Turkey, in 2018, it is willing to team up with lobbies whose primary objective is to promote grievances against Turkey.

Against this background, it is perhaps not surprising that Gilad Erdan, a member of Benjamin Netanyahu’s Likud faction has called for Tel Aviv to recognise the events of 1915 as an “Armenian Genocide”. If “Israel” were to officially to do this, it would represent a clear break between Tel Aviv and Ankara and quite possibly a point of no return. The more Turkey stands up for Palestine, the more voices like those of Erdan will become amplified in arguing for a move that is less about Armenia (a traditionally anti-Zionist nation) than about sending a clear message to Turkey that the partnership has run its course.

Conclusion

The economic realities that have held Turkey and “Israel” together against great odds during the Erdogan/Netanyahu years, are rapidly unravelling. As Tel Aviv pivots its energy and commercial needs towards Greece, Cyprus, Egypt and Italy and with “Israel” engaging in ever closer security cooperation with the Hellenic members of the EU, all the while supporting Kurdish ethno-nationalism in the Middle East, it is becoming apparent that the once unthinkable question of a long term schism between Ankara and Tel Aviv may now be inevitable.

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Adam Garrie


Adam Garrie is Director at Eurasia future. He is a geo-political expert who can be frequently seen on Nedka Babliku’s weekly discussion show Digital Divides, RT’s flagship debate show CrossTalk as well as Press-TV’s flagship programme ‘The Debate’. A global specialist with an emphasis on Eurasian integration, Garrie’s articles have been published in the Oriental Review, Asia Times, Geopolitica Russia, the Tasnim News Agency, Global Research, RT’s Op-Edge, Global Village Space and others.
https://www.eurasiafuture.com/2018/...at-may-push-turkey-to-cut-ties-with-tel-aviv/
Why u need to post a garbage article from Press TV author which writes "Israel" in brackets? Really u have nothing else to do?
 
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Why you think the article is garbage?
1) It can't spell Israel properly, means its not a serious source.
2) Its written by PressTV guy.
3) Why would Turkey cut ties with Israel over alliance with Greece if it does not cut ties with Greece itself?
 
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