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The Iranian Regime on Israel's Right to Exist

can iranians and israelis stop the scripted fights. it is getting boring. american wrestling (wwf) has more credibility in its fights than the supposed enmity between iran and israel. khomeini got his weapons from israel for the iran-iraq war. ibn saba, founder of the ideology of iran, is an ethnic israeli. ABDALLAH IBN SABA - JewishEncyclopedia.com

iranian reza la akhlaghi or reza na-akhlaghi explains it to "the canadian jewish news".
Ex-pat Iranian says most Iranians want peace | The Canadian Jewish News
But with regard to Israel, it’s important to remember that deep down in Iranian political culture, the existence of Israel is beneficial to Iran because if you take Israel “off the map,” to borrow a phrase from Ahmadinejad, then most likely, Iran will be faced with a potentially united Sunni Arab world against a Persian Shiite state.
For this strategic purpose, the existence of Israel is a blessing for Iran
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The most bitter response to a selfhating, dupe of a traitor like Abii is not to respond to him at all. Try it and he will need psychiatric help, I promise you!
People like him come to Places like this to feed!
 
Disturbing Quotes From Leading Zionists

There are some pretty choice quotes from shockingly honest Zionists.

"We came here to a country that was populated by Arabs and we are building here a Hebrew, a Jewish state; instead of the Arab villages, Jewish villages were established. You even do not know the names of those villages, and I do not blame you because these villages no longer exist. There is not a single Jewish settlement that was not established in the place of a former Arab Village." Moshe Dyan, March 19, 1969, speech at the Technion in Haifa, quoted in Ha'aretz, April 4, 1969.

Some Racist statements by main Israeli and Zionist figures
* "The Palestinians are like crocodiles, the more you give them meat, they want more".... Ehud Barak, Prime Minister of Israel at the time - August 28, 2000. Reported in the Jerusalem Post August 30, 2000.

* " (The Palestinians are) beasts walking on two legs." Menahim Begin, speech to the Knesset, quoted in Amnon Kapeliouk, "Begin and the Beasts". New Statesman, 25 June 1982.

* "The Palestinians" would be crushed like grasshoppers ... heads smashed against the boulders and walls." " Isreali Prime Minister (at the time) in a speech to Jewish settlers New York Times April 1, 1988.

* "When we have settled the land, all the Arabs will be able to do about it will be to scurry around like drugged cockroaches in a bottle." Raphael Eitan, Chief of Staff of the Israeli Defence Forces, New York Times, 14 April 1983.

* "How can we return the occupied territories? There is nobody to return them to." Golda Maier, March 8, 1969.

* "There was no such thing as Palestinians, they never existed." Golda Maier Israeli Prime Minister June 15, 1969.

* "The thesis that the danger of genocide was hanging over us in June 1967 and that Israel was fighting for its physical existence is only bluff, which was born and developed after the war." Israeli General Matityahu Peled, Ha'aretz, 19 March 1972.

* Ben Gurion also warned in 1948 : "We must do everything to insure they ( the Palestinians) never do return." Assuring his fellow Zionists that Palestinians will never come back to their homes. "The old will die and the young will forget."

* "We declare openly that the Arabs have no right to settle on even one centimeter of Eretz Israel... Force is all they do or ever will understand. We shall use the ultimate force until the Palestinians come crawling to us on all fours." Rafael Eitan, Chief of Staff of the Israeli Defense Forces - Gad Becker, Yediot Ahronot 13 April 1983, New York Times 14 April 1983.

* "We must do everything to ensure they (the Palestinian refugees) never do return" David Ben-Gurion, in his diary, 18 July 1948, quoted in Michael Bar Zohar's Ben-Gurion: the Armed Prophet, Prentice-Hall, 1967, p. 157.

* "We should prepare to go over to the offensive. Our aim is to smash Lebanon, Trans-Jordan, and Syria. The weak point is Lebanon, for the Moslem regime is artificial and easy for us to undermine. We shall establish a Christian state there, and then we will smash the Arab Legion, eliminate Trans-Jordan; Syria will fall to us. We then bomb and move on and take Port Said, Alexandria and Sinai." David Ben-Gurion, May 1948, to the General Staff. From Ben-Gurion, A Biography, by Michael Ben-Zohar, Delacorte, New York 1978.

* "We must use terror, assassination, intimidation, land confiscation, and the cutting of all social services to rid the Galilee of its Arab population." Israel Koenig, "The Koenig Memorandum."

* "Jewish villages were built in the place of Arab villages. You do not even know the names of these Arab villages, and I do not blame you because geography books no longer exist... There is not a single place built in this country that did not have a former Arab population." Moshe Dayan, address to the Technion, Haifa, reported in Haaretz, April 4, 1969.

* "We walked outside, Ben-Gurion accompanying us. Allon repeated his question, What is to be done with the Palestinian population?' Ben-Gurion waved his hand in a gesture which said 'Drive them out!'" Yitzhak Rabin, leaked censored version of Rabin memoirs, published in the New York Times, 23 October 1979.

* Rabin's description of the conquest of Lydda, after the completion of Plan Dalet. "We shall reduce the Arab population to a community of woodcutters and waiters" Uri Lubrani, PM Ben-Gurion's special adviser on Arab Affairs, 1960. From "The Arabs in Israel" by Sabri Jiryas.

* "There are some who believe that the non-Jewish population, even in a high percentage, within our borders will be more effectively under our surveillance; and there are some who believe the contrary, i.e., that it is easier to carry out surveillance over the activities of a neighbor than over those of a tenant. tend to support the latter view and have an additional argument:...the need to sustain the character of the state which will henceforth be Jewish...with a non-Jewish minority limited to 15 percent. I had already reached this fundamental position as early as 1940 [and] it is entered in my diary." Joseph Weitz, head of the Jewish Agency's Colonization Department. From Israel: an Apartheid State by Uri Davis, p.5.

* "Everybody has to move, run and grab as many hilltops as they can to enlarge the settlements because everything we take now will stay ours... Everything we don't grab will go to them." Ariel Sharon, Israeli Foreign Minister, addressing a meeting of militants from the extreme right-wing Tsomet Party, Agence France Presse, November 15, 1998.

* "It is the duty of Israeli leaders to explain to public opinion, clearly and courageously, a certain number of facts that are forgotten with time. The first of these is that there is no Zionism,colonialization or Jewish State without the eviction of the Arabs and the expropriation of their lands." Yoram Bar Porath, Yediot Aahronot, of 14 July 1972.

* "Spirit the penniless population across the frontier by denying it employment... Both the process of expropriation and the removal of the poor must be carried out discreetly and circumspectly." Theodore Herzl, founder of the World Zionist Organization, speaking of the Arabs of Palestine,Complete Diaries, June 12, 1895 entry.

* "One million Arabs are not worth a Jewish fingernail." -- Rabbi Yaacov Perrin, Feb. 27, 1994 (Source: N.Y. Times, Feb. 28, 1994, p. 1).

* "We will establish ourselves in Palestine whether you like it or not...You can hasten our arrival or you can equally retard it. It is however better for you to help us so as to avoid our constructive powers being turned into a destructive power which will overthrow the world." (Chaim Weizmann, Published in "Judische Rundschau," No. 4, 1920).

Arie Dayan: "The Debate over Zionism and Racism: An Israeli View"; Haaretz, 27 December 1991; translated in Journal of Palestine Studies, Vol. 22, No. 3. (Spring, 1993), pp. 96-105.
Michael Adams: "Israel's Treatment of the Arabs in the Occupied Territories"; Journal of Palestine Studies, Vol. 6, No. 2. (Winter, 1977), pp. 19-40.
Janice J. Terry: "Zionist Attitudes toward Arabs; Journal of Palestine Studies", Vol. 6, No. 1. (Autumn, 1976), pp. 67-78.
Roselle Tekiner: "Race and the Issue of National Identity in Israel"; International Journal of Middle East Studies, Vol. 23, No. 1. (Feb., 1991), pp. 39-55.

Right of return
The Israeli law of the right of return which, despite Israel's otherwise restrictive immigration policies, grant every Jew in the world the right to settle in Israel. This is especially agitating for the Palestinian refugees, who were expelled from their lands that is modern Israel, but are denied their right to return.
The Article 11 of the UN General Assembly Resolution 194, "resolves that the refugees wishing to return to their homes and live at peace with their neighbors should be permitted to do so at the earliest practicable date, and that compensation should be paid for the property of those choosing not to return and for loss of or damage to property...". Like many other resolutions by UN, Israel still refuse to comply with this resolution.
Many opponents of Zionism declare that Zionism is racist, and compare its continuation to the reform of Germany's former 'Blood Laws', which had allowed ethnic Germans to claim citizenship, even if they were nationals of another country.

Zionism Racism Against Some Jews
Zionists hold that any person may choose to become a Jew, after meeting the necessary requirements, and enjoy all the benefits and responsibilities of membership. Since anyone can (i.e., regardless of race, ethnicity or nationality) both join the Jewish people and equally enjoy the benefits of membership, Zionists conclude that Zionism is anti-Racist among jews at least. Even this claim was challenged all over the history of Israel. The jews of Eastern origins (called Sephardim or Mizrahim) suffered from various kinds of racism by Ashkenazic Jews.
The Jewishness of many jewish minorities in Israel (like the Ethiopian Jews, the Russian Jews and Indian Jews) has been always questioned by the religious authorities[1].
In many Israeli settlements they refuse to accept Falasha jews and The Falasha rabbis privileges are not recognized in Israel[2] and the unemployment rate among them is at least three times the Israeli average[3].
According to prof. Esther Herzog: The Falasha jews where brought to Israel to work in the inferior jobs... and they are considered as third class citizens (after the Ashkenazim and the Sephardim)[4].
Falasha used to complain from the systematic racism against them everywhre in Israel because of their origin and black colour. In the last few years Falasha demonstrations erupted after the exposure of the scandal of throwing the blood donated by Falasha in the Israeli hospitals and medical clinics[5].
The modern founder of Zionism Theodor Herzl once said:
"It is essential that the sufferings of Jews. . . become worse. . . this will assist in realization of our plans. . .I have an excellent idea. . . I shall induce anti-semites to liquidate Jewish wealth. . . The anti-semites will assist us thereby in that they will strengthen the persecution and oppression of Jews. The anti-semites shall be our best friends".[6][7]

UN resolutions
Main articles: United Nations General Assembly Resolution 3379 and UN General Assembly Resolution 4686
On November 10, 1975 the United Nations General Assembly adopted, by a vote of 72 to 35 (with 32 abstentions), Resolution 3379, which stated that "Zionism is a form of racism and racial discrimination."
However, on 16 December 1991, it was rescinded by Resolution 4686, with a vote of 111 to 25 (with 13 abstentions). The resolution 4686 was acheived under a severe pressure from US and Israel. Israel made it a condition to participate in the Peace process in the Middle East.


Quotation #1:We enthusiastically chose to become a colonial society, ignoring international treaties, expropriating lands, transferring settlers from Israel to the occupied territories, engaging in theft and finding justification for all these activities. Passionately desiring to keep the occupied territories, we developed two judicial systems: one - progressive, liberal - in Israel; and the other - cruel, injurious - in the occupied territories. In effect, we established an apartheid regime in the occupied territories immediately following their capture. That oppressive regime exists to this day.By: Michael Ben-Yair
Date: 3 March 2002
Source: this article in Ha’aretz
 
Cyrus DID steal land. And, yes, Persians and Medians did displace the local populations. Assyrians have almost become extinct and Mesopotamian people, language and culture became extinct under Persian rule. Local religions were replaced by Zoroastrianism under Persian rule.

Persians did treat their subjects much better than it was customary back then, but that doesn't mean they didn't force their rule upon them. In time, Mesopotamian culture became completely extinct. Assyrians today are dispersed around the world and there are only a couple of million left. If it wasn't for Cyrus' invasion of Mesopotamia, that would have never happened.

Your last question is laughable. Every square inch of Iran has been fought over, lost and regained 10000 times over the past 3000 years. Most recently we lost territories in the North to Russia. Territories like Azerbaijan. Why aren't you calling Azerbaijan and Armenia illegitimate? How come you're not fighting to get those back if you're asking me that last question?

You simply don't have a leg to stand on. Whether you like it or not, whether I'm wrong or right and whether or not Israel is legitimate according to you or not, IT EXISTS! In the year 2015, Israel exists as a sovereign nation and no man or state can say otherwise. If you want it gone, get up and go to war. If you can't stand up to Israel and its hundreds of nuclear weapons, stfu and let's make Iran into a civilized, peaceful and prosperous nation so that the 80 mln people that live in Iran can have a better tomorrow. Your irrational ideological beliefs are so self defeating that even you know you're wrong.

I dunno if I am wrong or not but I try to learn, but one thing is clear that again you forgot the rules of a sensible discussion , why should I shut my mouth up? 'cause I think differently? that's what you've been taught?
By the way civilization, peace, prosper and having a better tomorrow have got no connection with considering israel as a legitimate entity, by your definition there is no law or order to be followed except law of jungle that power could make right:


Obama United Nations 68th Session General Assembly Speech
Delivered 24 September 2014, New York, NY

"....This is a vision of the world in which might makes right -- a world in which one nation’s borders can be redrawn by another, and civilized people are not allowed to recover the remains of their loved ones because of the truth that might be revealed. America stands for something different. We believe that right makes might -- that bigger nations should not be able to bully smaller ones, and that people should be able to choose their own future....:

Moreover for God sake we live in the 21st century not in the stone age where power had got the last saying.


 
I dunno if I am wrong or not but I try to learn, but one thing is clear that again you forgot the rules of a sensible discussion , why should I shut my mouth up? 'cause I think differently? that's what you've been taught?
By the way civilization, peace, prosper and having a better tomorrow have got no connection with considering israel as a legitimate entity, by your definition there is no law or order to be followed except law of jungle that power could make right:


Obama United Nations 68th Session General Assembly Speech
Delivered 24 September 2014, New York, NY

"....This is a vision of the world in which might makes right -- a world in which one nation’s borders can be redrawn by another, and civilized people are not allowed to recover the remains of their loved ones because of the truth that might be revealed. America stands for something different. We believe that right makes might -- that bigger nations should not be able to bully smaller ones, and that people should be able to choose their own future....:

Moreover for God sake we live in the 21st century not in the stone age where power had got the last saying.


It was a figure of speech. Basically telling you to either get up and go to war or stop your useless negho pegh. Cyrus did steal land. WTF do you think an invasion and occupation is? The occupation lasted more than a thousand years and in the end Mesopotamian culture was completely absorbed and became extinct as a separate entity. Now here we are. Your arguments about Israel make no sense. Let's focus on our own country.
 
Not bad but these quotes leave out important context. For example, in the last quote Ben-Yair was referring exclusively to Gaza and the West Bank following the 1967 Six-Day War. Jews could have refrained from settling there (though the judge doesn't mention the legal argument that Jews are entitled to under the British Mandate of Palestine since Jordan's claim there was deemed illegal, illegitimate, and ultimately renounced). His statement wasn't meant as a proud boast or definitive history but as an appeal to regain the moral character he thinks Israel is losing, in defense of IDF soldiers who refused to serve in the territories.
 

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