The Indo-US allianceand Its Implications for Pakistan

[T-Rex]

and its our duty to inform Bangladeshi about our deals with USA ! duh

Aren't you indians supposed to be our 'best' ally. What kind of an ally talks like a master? Please master, don't take it otherwise, we still think you're our best 'ally'. Already we've given transit and ports for free and soon we'll give you the entire country.

 

[Ankit Kumar 002]

Is it not a fact that india has allowed the US armed forces to use the bases and portsdidindia? What are the military benefits india is getting from the indo-US nuclear treaty? Arms trade is only part of the pie, if it wasn't so significant Congress and communist parties wouldn't be so upset. Must I quote what they have been saying about it?

Till now NO.
The LSA is just an agreement which will allow Americans to refuel. Nothing more.

Just like the Soviet navy ships did, in cold war era.

And no , USA cannot base its troops here.

The military benefits of nuclear deal is none. Because its a civilian deal.

 

[nana41]

The US under the assrahelli and indian influence will never recognize Pakistani security needs. Matter of fact, the US administrations will use their influence in Pakistan to destabilize and weaken Pakistan. The history of US-Pak relation is a witness to this fact. There are those in Pakistan who have vested interest in the US and therefore, they will always deny this. Their task is to portray uncle sam as an important ally.

U S and India are going through a phase of "CHAPLOSI".Wait till the real diplomacy starts and both start showing their real poker cards of game of national interest.India will never join anti China Gang consisting of JAPAN,AUSTRALIA AND PHILIPINE headed by U S.

 

[Dash]

Aren't you indians supposed to be our 'best' ally. What kind of an ally talks like a master? Please master, don't take it otherwise, we still think you're our best 'ally'. Already we've given transit and ports for free and soon we'll give you the entire country.

LSA is a non binding agreement. It has no adverse impact on any neighbor.

 

[Mirza Jatt]

India and US are engaged in milking each other as much as they, can keeping their interests in mind. US is a master of this game and am glad India is also playing well...this is a very hard baniya bargaining they are engaged into....and the best part ??? ...both know what the other's intention is.. and know where will they stop the favour.

 

[barbarosa]

Which game has plans in the mind of USA? we do not know but Indian govt will not be caught in its net. It is reality.

 

[captainvancouver]

You'll never hear language like "higher than the Himalayans, deeper than the sea" when describing the us, India relationship. We leave such flowery language and simplistic thinking to the Pakistani's and Chinese.

 

[cloud4000]

Which game has plans in the mind of USA? we do not know but Indian govt will not be caught in its net. It is reality.

Don't know why it's even called an Indo-US alliance when it's anything but. It's more an understanding, especially when it comes to containing China. No country will not have demands on each other.

India would never enter such an alliance. It has followed its own foreign policy path since independence, including its pro-Soviet days.

 

[zebra7]

U S and India are going through a phase of "CHAPLOSI".Wait till the real diplomacy starts and both start showing their real poker cards of game of national interest.India will never join anti China Gang consisting of JAPAN,AUSTRALIA AND PHILIPINE headed by U S.

LOL CHAPLOSI !!!

What is Chaplosi ??

1. Does India asking for the weapons under FMS ?
2. Can USA dictate India to do joint Petrol in South China Sea ?
3. Does India ask USA to be the Signatory of the LSA, CISMOA, and BECA ?
4. Does India Joined NATO or CETO or Warsaw Pact?


Janab even during the COLD WAR Era, India remains Non-Aligned !!!

1. We are not seeking LSA or CISMOA or BECA, its the USA which is asking India to sign, and that too to be able to open the US High end Weapons to India, but India is opposing to sign any Deal, because we have our own independent policy.

2. We do not seed F-35, when we already have FGFA with 360 degree coverage sensors, which even F-35 don't have, with indegenous inputs and upgrades.

3. Closeness with the US is the necessity of the Present times, for the Civilians deal, targetted for the the US investment to come to the India, which is needed hell lot for the future growth and economical growth of the India ?

4. At Present, India, can buy weapons from both West and Russia for our security needs because we have two nuclear capable niegbours, and One is mamoth and one is too proactive.

 

[Hamza913]

False alarms being raised. As a matter of fact at present the India US alliance is not even 5% of what US Pakistan alliance is.

Buying some American transport aircrafts do not make India side with USA.

And India isn't going along with USA in South China sea. This has been clarified by our defence minister long back.

The US certainly seems keen to be India's ally, but India seems to be saying no. Probably because then Russia will move towards Pakistan, and that won't be good for India's mostly Russian-made military.

 

[cloud4000]

The US certainly seems keen to be India's ally, but India seems to be saying no. Probably because then Russia will move towards Pakistan, and that won't be good for India's mostly Russian-made military.

Where do engines for the JF-17 come from? Regardless, Pakistan overstates its relationship with Russia. Sold a handful of Mi-35s and Pakistan and Russia are best friends.

Russia, like US, doesn't see its relationships with India and Pakistan as a zero sum game.

 

[Hamza913]

Where do engines for the JF-17 come from? Regardless, Pakistan overstates its relationship with Russia. Sold a handful of Mi-35s and Pakistan and Russia are best friends.

Russia, like US, doesn't see its relationships with India and Pakistan as a zero sum game.

The JF-17's engine being Russian is just a progression of Russian and Pakistani relations. Like you lot, we dabble with our Cold war enemy.

Also, if India went full on America (as in buys Hornets and Vipers in large quantities) then Russia will ditch you guys for us, and if Pakistan goes full on Russia, America will ditch us.

 

[cloud4000]

Also, if India went full on America (as in buys Hornets and Vipers in large quantities) then Russia will ditch you guys for us, and if Pakistan goes full on Russia, America will ditch us.

Uh, no. Like I said before , it's not a zero sum game for Russia. Even if the Hornet and Viper deals materialize, India still has deals worth billions with Russia, both in economic and military terms. How much can Pakistan offer in comparison?

 

[Ankit Kumar 002]

The US certainly seems keen to be India's ally, but India seems to be saying no. Probably because then Russia will move towards Pakistan, and that won't be good for India's mostly Russian-made military.

India will never put all its eggs in one basket, meaning it will never be an American Ally like Japan or SK is.
Further the roadblock in increasing the closeness of American India relations is the problem of views. India wants a relation ship with USA which it enjoys with Russia. While USA wants a Japan in South Asia. Both cannot happen and hence the slow progress.

There will be upward trends in civilian , energy, infra , rail , space and intelligence sharing , no doubts. But the policies of India and US do not meet much. India will continue to get only those weapons from USA which it can't source from else where. And as for alignment, its not happening.

The latest example is the Indian stance of taking patrols and explorations in SCS with nations of SCS , but not with USA.

France, Russia and Israel are more of our traditional allies and we look to strengthen our ties with each of the three.

Uh, no. Like I said before , it's not a zero sum game for Russia. Even if the Hornet and Viper deals materialize, India still has deals worth billions with Russia, both in economic and military terms. How much can Pakistan offer in comparison?

Yes. These small deals do not replace what Russia enjoys in India. SSNs, S400, numerous helps in SSBN program is something we cannot source from else where.

 

[Hamza913]

India will never put all its eggs in one basket, meaning it will never be an American Ally like Japan or SK is.
Further the roadblock in increasing the closeness of American India relations is the problem of views. India wants a relation ship with USA which it enjoys with Russia. While USA wants a Japan in South Asia. Both cannot happen and hence the slow progress.

There will be upward trends in civilian , energy, infra , rail , space and intelligence sharing , no doubts. But the policies of India and US do not meet much. India will continue to get only those weapons from USA which it can't source from else where. And as for alignment, its not happening.

The latest example is the Indian stance of taking patrols and explorations in SCS with nations of SCS , but not with USA.

France, Russia and Israel are more of our traditional allies and we look to strengthen our ties with each of the three.



Yes. These small deals do not replace what Russia enjoys in India. SSNs, S400, numerous helps in SSBN program is something we cannot source from else where.

France a traditional ally? They were literally selling us Mirages by the dozens only a few decades ago. In fact, now they are offering to help out JF-17. Those sneaky French aren't anyone's allies but themselves.