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The Indian women calling themselves ‘proudly single’

Fair enough.
I believe every human should have the same fundamental rights as enshrined in our constitution. So following the basic structure doctrine ( the legislature cannot mess with FRs) i hope we strive to fulfill the fundamental directives which were not really made enforceable but something that a good state should incorporate.
Also apart from the basic structure doctrine imo the best way is to adapt according to the times but that's just my opinion. Amend any outdated law without touching one's basic rights.
I agree, India is a secular republic so it's important that rights are distributed equally among the stakeholders in the population, this makes it imperative for Indian women to dismantle the patriarchy and get their share of power, and more importantly, equal rights which they see as fair.

Other nations will have their own systems of governance, such as the Muslim theocracy you mentioned, which they collectively believe in. And the rights of the stakeholders will fairly be granted according to those beliefs. Essentially making everyone equal and content.

Every culture and society has their own beliefs in governance, and their idea of equality is derived from that and should be achieved based on those fundamentals. In the end everyone is satisfied and equally represented.
 
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They like to fk like normal women. Just don't want babies and the other trappings. They like their money and independence and after a while as you get older it's really difficult to get out of your single comfort zone and adjust with another person. You really come across as a kid man. A loud obnoxious one at that.

You are a typical insecure Indian fool, but we are used to that.

Don't hate us. It is not my fault you cannot get laid as your women don't like you.
 
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No man. Lots of single hotties. 40 pluses are the best.
Well older women can be hot and still be single in South Asia due to age stigma I can agree to that but I doubt any of these young ladies in the article who clearly need to put down the Samosas are single by choice as they claim lol.

They just all expecting a Bollywood Khan and don’t want to “settle”.
 
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Well older women can be hot and still be single in South Asia due to age stigma I can agree to that but I doubt any of these young ladies in the article who clearly need to put down the Samosas are single by choice as they claim lol.

They just all expecting a Bollywood Khan and don’t want to “settle”.
With more potential opportunities, people want to be able to choose how they live their lives, especially if they can afford it, fair enough.

But choices have trade off. Regardless of gender, opening one door will necessitate the closing of others. We can’t have it all.

Then add on top the cultural specific norms and you see the dilemmas people put themselves into. So this semantic movement is an attempt to try to change the culture, and help these ladies cope. considering how entrenched the culture is and that doesn’t look like it’s going to change, it’s probably going to be a futile effort for the foreseeable future.
 
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I know a fair few people, both couples and singles... cushy life situations, monies, the works... but choosing not to have kids till pretty late, and in some cases may never.. they're happy, not bogged down, can travel and live freely, do their own thing. Good friends of mine are digital nomads, got 2 dogs and 3 cats, life on the move.. summers me Himalyas, winters me Konkan coast.. mast scene, very happy.
 
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Most single ladies in my circle are friends of my wife. Funny how that works. And are more like elder friends to my kids than aunts. @waz you posted the link. After your clickbait alert on the other thread. Request you to follow it up with your own views as well.
 
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Not that there's anything wrong with being a single woman, but those that advertise themselves as "proudly single" tend to be:

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Sreemoyee Piu Kundu

Sreemoyee Piu Kundu is author and founder of Status Single, a community for urban single women in India
By Geeta Pandey
BBC News, Delhi

In India, girls have traditionally been raised to be good wives and mothers and the most important life goal for them has been marriage.
But a large number of women are now charting their independent solitary path by choosing to remain single.
On Sunday, I attended a lunch gathering of two dozen women at a Caribbean lounge in south Delhi. The room was filled with excited chatter and laughter.
The women were all members of Status Single - a Facebook community for urban single women in India.
"Let's stop describing ourselves as widows, divorcees or unmarried," Sreemoyee Piu Kundu, author and founder of the community, told the gathering. "Let's just call ourselves proudly single."
The women clapped and cheered.
In a country that's often described as being "obsessed with marriage", a lot of stigma still surrounds singlehood.
In rural India, single women are often seen as a burden by their families - the never married have little agency and thousands of widows are banished to holy towns such as Vrindavan and Varanasi.
Ms Kundu and the women in the Delhi pub I meet are different. Mostly from middle class backgrounds, they include teachers, doctors, lawyers, professionals, entrepreneurs, activists, writers and journalists. Some are separated or divorced or widowed, others never married.
Widows of Vrindavan

India is home to 71.4 million single women which includes never married, divorced and widowed women
The wealthy urban single women are increasingly being recognised as an economic opportunity - they're wooed by banks, jewellery makers, consumer goods companies and travel agencies.

Single women are also finding representation in popular culture - Bollywood films such as Queen and Piku and web shows such as Four More Shots Please with single female protagonists have done commercially well.
And in October, the Supreme Court ruling that all women, including those not married, had equal rights to abortion was hailed as a recognition of single women's rights by the top court.
But despite these welcome changes, society's attitudes remain rigid and, as Ms Kundu says, being single is not easy even for the affluent and they are judged all the time too.
"I've faced discrimination and humiliation as a single woman. When I was looking to rent an apartment in Mumbai, members of a housing society asked me questions like, Do you drink? Are you sexually active?"
She's met gynaecologists who've been like "nosy neighbours" and a few years ago when her mother put an ad on an elite matrimonial site on her behalf, she met a man who asked her "within the first 15 minutes if I was a virgin"?
"Apparently it's a question single women are routinely asked," she adds.

But single shaming doesn't make sense in a country which, according to the 2011 Census, is home to 71.4 million single women - a number larger than the entire populations of Britain or France.
This was a 39% increase - from 51.2 million in 2001.
The 2021 Census has been delayed due to the Covid-19 pandemic, but Ms Kundu says that by now, "our numbers would have crossed 100 million".
Some of the increase can be explained by the fact that the age of marriage has risen in India - which means a larger number of single women in their late teens or early 20s. The numbers also include a large number of widows, attributed to the fact that women tend to live longer than men.
But, Ms Kundu says, she's seeing "many more women now who are single by choice, not just by circumstances" and it's this "changing face of singlehood" that's important to acknowledge.
"I meet a lot of women who say they are single by choice, they reject the notion of marriage because it's a patriarchal institution that's unjust to women and used to oppress them."
Sreemoyee Piu Kundu with members of Status Single, giving V for victory signs
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V for victory signs from the members of Status Single
Her focus on single women is rooted in the discrimination her mother - widowed at 29 - faced.
"Growing up, I saw how a woman, unaccompanied by a man, was marginalised in our patriarchal, misogynistic set-up. She was unwelcome at baby showers and at a cousin's wedding, she was told to stay away from the bride since even a widow's shadow is considered inauspicious."
At the age of 44, when her mother fell in love and remarried, she again attracted the "ire of society" - "How dare a widow not be the sad, weeping, asexualised, pleasureless woman that she's supposed to be? How dare she have agency again?"
Her mother's humiliation, she says, had a profound impact on her.
"I grew up desperately wanting to get married. I believed in the fairy tale that marriage will bring acceptance and take away all my darkness."

But after two failed relationships which were abusive - physically and emotionally - and coming within a hair's breadth of getting married at 26, Ms Kundu says she realised that the traditional marriage where a woman is meant to be subservient to a man wasn't for her.
Her ideal relationship, she says, is one that's not rooted in culture, religion or community but is based on "respect, accessibility and acknowledgement".
It's a reasonable ask and an idea many single women I met on Sunday agreed with.
But India remains a largely patriarchal society where more than 90% of marriages are arranged by family and women have little say in who they marry - leave alone whether they want to marry at all.
But Bhawana Dahiya, a 44-year-old life coach from Gurugram (Gurgaon) near Delhi who's never been married, points out that things are changing and the growing numbers of single women is a cause for celebration.
"We might be a drop in the ocean, but at least there's a drop now," she says.
"The more examples we have of women being single, the better it is. Traditionally, all conversations were about the husband's career, his plans, the children's school, with little thought given to a woman's choices, but those conversations are now changing.
"We are making a dent in the universe."



Not a great trend considering India's population is already very old and with a falling birth rate.
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I would argue otherwise though, it is a great sign of women empowerment, women can and will marrybwhen they choose, not because the patriarchal society hangs them with anyone they want.
They deserve a career and life goals too, in the long run will make for a better more egalitarian society, my two cents.

We cannot make the argument about falling births rates, that reduces them to being viewed as child making machines in our society.

Respect women choices same as men.
 
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I know a fair few people, both couples and singles... cushy life situations, monies, the works... but choosing not to have kids till pretty late, and in some cases may never.. they're happy, not bogged down, can travel and live freely, do their own thing. Good friends of mine are digital nomads, got 2 dogs and 3 cats, life on the move.. summers me Himalyas, winters me Konkan coast.. mast scene, very happy.
Damn man I can't live like that, sounds like hell
I just want a daughter of my own SO bad!, I can't imagine willingly staying single for this long into your late 30s , and choosing to have a dog's instead

Nah, you have to be on another wavelength to make sense of it all
 
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Sreemoyee Piu Kundu

Sreemoyee Piu Kundu is author and founder of Status Single, a community for urban single women in India
By Geeta Pandey
BBC News, Delhi

In India, girls have traditionally been raised to be good wives and mothers and the most important life goal for them has been marriage.
But a large number of women are now charting their independent solitary path by choosing to remain single.
On Sunday, I attended a lunch gathering of two dozen women at a Caribbean lounge in south Delhi. The room was filled with excited chatter and laughter.
The women were all members of Status Single - a Facebook community for urban single women in India.
"Let's stop describing ourselves as widows, divorcees or unmarried," Sreemoyee Piu Kundu, author and founder of the community, told the gathering. "Let's just call ourselves proudly single."
The women clapped and cheered.
In a country that's often described as being "obsessed with marriage", a lot of stigma still surrounds singlehood.
In rural India, single women are often seen as a burden by their families - the never married have little agency and thousands of widows are banished to holy towns such as Vrindavan and Varanasi.
Ms Kundu and the women in the Delhi pub I meet are different. Mostly from middle class backgrounds, they include teachers, doctors, lawyers, professionals, entrepreneurs, activists, writers and journalists. Some are separated or divorced or widowed, others never married.
Widows of Vrindavan

India is home to 71.4 million single women which includes never married, divorced and widowed women
The wealthy urban single women are increasingly being recognised as an economic opportunity - they're wooed by banks, jewellery makers, consumer goods companies and travel agencies.

Single women are also finding representation in popular culture - Bollywood films such as Queen and Piku and web shows such as Four More Shots Please with single female protagonists have done commercially well.
And in October, the Supreme Court ruling that all women, including those not married, had equal rights to abortion was hailed as a recognition of single women's rights by the top court.
But despite these welcome changes, society's attitudes remain rigid and, as Ms Kundu says, being single is not easy even for the affluent and they are judged all the time too.
"I've faced discrimination and humiliation as a single woman. When I was looking to rent an apartment in Mumbai, members of a housing society asked me questions like, Do you drink? Are you sexually active?"
She's met gynaecologists who've been like "nosy neighbours" and a few years ago when her mother put an ad on an elite matrimonial site on her behalf, she met a man who asked her "within the first 15 minutes if I was a virgin"?
"Apparently it's a question single women are routinely asked," she adds.

But single shaming doesn't make sense in a country which, according to the 2011 Census, is home to 71.4 million single women - a number larger than the entire populations of Britain or France.
This was a 39% increase - from 51.2 million in 2001.
The 2021 Census has been delayed due to the Covid-19 pandemic, but Ms Kundu says that by now, "our numbers would have crossed 100 million".
Some of the increase can be explained by the fact that the age of marriage has risen in India - which means a larger number of single women in their late teens or early 20s. The numbers also include a large number of widows, attributed to the fact that women tend to live longer than men.
But, Ms Kundu says, she's seeing "many more women now who are single by choice, not just by circumstances" and it's this "changing face of singlehood" that's important to acknowledge.
"I meet a lot of women who say they are single by choice, they reject the notion of marriage because it's a patriarchal institution that's unjust to women and used to oppress them."
Sreemoyee Piu Kundu with members of Status Single, giving V for victory signs
I
V for victory signs from the members of Status Single
Her focus on single women is rooted in the discrimination her mother - widowed at 29 - faced.
"Growing up, I saw how a woman, unaccompanied by a man, was marginalised in our patriarchal, misogynistic set-up. She was unwelcome at baby showers and at a cousin's wedding, she was told to stay away from the bride since even a widow's shadow is considered inauspicious."
At the age of 44, when her mother fell in love and remarried, she again attracted the "ire of society" - "How dare a widow not be the sad, weeping, asexualised, pleasureless woman that she's supposed to be? How dare she have agency again?"
Her mother's humiliation, she says, had a profound impact on her.
"I grew up desperately wanting to get married. I believed in the fairy tale that marriage will bring acceptance and take away all my darkness."

But after two failed relationships which were abusive - physically and emotionally - and coming within a hair's breadth of getting married at 26, Ms Kundu says she realised that the traditional marriage where a woman is meant to be subservient to a man wasn't for her.
Her ideal relationship, she says, is one that's not rooted in culture, religion or community but is based on "respect, accessibility and acknowledgement".
It's a reasonable ask and an idea many single women I met on Sunday agreed with.
But India remains a largely patriarchal society where more than 90% of marriages are arranged by family and women have little say in who they marry - leave alone whether they want to marry at all.
But Bhawana Dahiya, a 44-year-old life coach from Gurugram (Gurgaon) near Delhi who's never been married, points out that things are changing and the growing numbers of single women is a cause for celebration.
"We might be a drop in the ocean, but at least there's a drop now," she says.
"The more examples we have of women being single, the better it is. Traditionally, all conversations were about the husband's career, his plans, the children's school, with little thought given to a woman's choices, but those conversations are now changing.
"We are making a dent in the universe."



Not a great trend considering India's population is already very old and with a falling birth rate.
People who were interested in this.

@langda khan
@PakFactor
So much "beauty" in a single frame!

But then again, p*jeets aren't the epitome of beauty either, one shouldn't expect p*jeetas to be hoors either.
 
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