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your answer is Yespretty much like arabs
I don't have problem with Arabs and if they accept our culture, they are welcome
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your answer is Yespretty much like arabs
However Turks enter Iran plateau and become one of Iranian tribe like other
also many Turks have Iranian origin and Iranian culture so we are partner in their glory
As I said any glory by Iranian tribe is my gloryYou have the right to see so, like Russians for Altınorda, Greeks for Ottoman, Indians for Mughal.
Also, Turkish involvement is very deep, therefore, you start to see it as yours, like the holly leader.
You consider Azeri Turks as a part of Iranians or all of the Turkish people as a part of Iranian people ?As I said any glory by Iranian tribe is my glory
At end all of us are Iranian and I consider Turks parts of Iran like Kurd, Balouch, persian and .....
Well at least not in India or u would be MuslimI was told a thousand times by multiple moderate pakistanis in sincere tone that there is NO SUCH THING AS FORCED RELIGIOUS CONVERSION!!!!!
You consider Azeri Turks as a part of Iranians or all of the Turkish people as a part of Iranian people ?
Hello dudeYou consider Azeri Turks as a part of Iranians or all of the Turkish people as a part of Iranian people ?
Which hadith?
Thats where you go astray when you compare mushrikeen with Sahaba (r.a) like Khawarij.. Khawarij also use example and verses in condemnation of mushrikeen to execute innocent Muslims. They killed each other for what they considered right for Islam and law and order in Khilafat, read hadith of Prophet (PBUH) about Hassan (r.a) where he said : My son is a master, and Allah may use him to make peace between two parties of Muslims.” [Saheeh Al-Bukhari, Book of "Afflictions," #6629, vol.6] its unanimous hadith among Sunnis and Shia.
beloved Prophet (saww) didnt said 1 party of Muslims and other party of Munafiqs..
and you have only clue of fabricated history, Imam Hassan signed peace deal becoz Prophet (saww) propheciesed it, rest is just Blah Blah, Ameer Muawiyah was human (we dont call Ameer ul momineen, for us Sunnis only first 4 Caliphs are true caliphs sometime which include Imam Hassan (R.A) as well) , he was not aware that Yazeed can be traitor and so satanic.
As i said there is no doubt that Ahle Sunnat are true follower of Ahlul bait (r.a) and we believe in this Hadith with letter and sprit, We dont misbehave against ummul momineen (r.a) or first 3 caliph like Hazrat Ali (r.a) Imam Hassan and Hussain(R.a) but shia do. we follow the Sawad e Azam like Imam Ali did by offering allegiance to Abu Bakr, Umar and Usman (R.A) so the ummah dont get divided, but shia love their minority and fabricated books like nehjul balagha, kafi and etc.
you cant gather majority of Muslim on Jahalat.. try your luck, you failed in 14 centuries you will always fail, and from which Ayah or Hadith you got that Prophet (saww) said Hazrat Ali (r.a) will be first caliph.. That Hadith didnt reach big Jammat of Muslimeen who elected Khalifa e Rasool Abu bakr (r.a) caliph including Hazrat Ali (r.a), but it reached Shia somehow..
And dont post about Darbari Mullah like Saudi Mufti, no one take him serious.
As I said any glory by Iranian tribe is my glory
At end all of us are Iranian and I consider Turks parts of Iran like Kurd, Balouch, persian and .....
Apparently, you insistently want to make a point, which needs a cross-check.
Would you please tell me the story about replacement of Persian with Iran as name?
Pan-Iranists and Pan-turks are the most clueless idiots on internet.
A modern day Iranian or Turkish person should see Turkish and Iranian ancient heritage combined as his own. These names like Timurid, Ottomans, Saffavid, Afshar etc are just family clans who contested each other for power. Most were otherwise similar people from same stock.
Hello dude
@drmeson answer you we have many similarities and share many things with each other
I mostly mean Iranian plateau by word of Iran and it's rich culture and civilization which fellow in it for thousand of year
The last things I mean by Iran is ethnic and all of those who affected by this culture and civilization are Iranian
Iran had great civilization before Aryans like Ilam, shahr-sokhte, jiroft, .... , so with @Gothic logic even Aryans are not Iranian b/c they later enter Iran plateau
and many times foreigners invade Iran but at end all of them surrender and become Iranian
and many times foreigners invade Iran but at end all of them surrender and become Iranian
Persia was never a local name for what is now Iran. There is a place in Shiraz which the greeks named Persepolis, meaning the Persian city. So western world, because they are racist started to call everything Iranian "Persian" Just like some ignorant people even to date, calls all muslims for "Arabs"
In 1935 (I think) The Shah of Iran asked the world to kindly recognise this land as Iran and not Persia.
Pan-Iranists and Pan-turks are the most clueless idiots on internet.
I agree with you, I hate Pan-Iranists and Pan-turks. They are the most fascist, racist, ignorant people I have ever met
Btw.
I am Azeri from Iran as well. What city are you from?
I do not agree with this although I have to admit I dont know enough about this topic. But I dont think Turkish people and Iranian Azeris are the same people. This is just something "Wannabe european party Iranians" and "Think they are gods of all Turks, Turkish people" tell each other. The Ottomans were heavily influenced by and embraced Iran and Iranian culture. But that is as far as it goes. We are not the same people.
I think you are in confusion in Iran-Persia and Turk-''Azeri'' cases, what is more, you did not understand what i meant in my question.