THE HUAWEI MATE 30 5G HAS ONLY 1% AMERICAN COMPONENTS

[Daniel808]

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THE HUAWEI MATE 30 5G HAS ONLY 1% AMERICAN COMPONENTS
ABDULLAHMAY 15, 2020
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In the previous months, Huawei held a global online conference and officially released this year’s new flagship P40 series, including Huawei P40, P40 Pro and Huawei P40 Pro+ models.

The Huawei Mate 30 has an almost entirely Asian hardware structure. From China components such as the Kirin 990 obviously arrive but also the battery, the antenna compartment and the fingerprint sensor. In addition, from Japan instead, cameras, memory, and the sections of the telecommunications system come. Finally, South Korea takes care of providing the display and the RAM memory. In fact, there is also a small part from the USA on Huawei Mate 30 (1%). The Gorilla Glass protective glass is provided by the American Corning.


For comparison, here is the original percentage of parts used on the Huawei Mate 30 and Mate 20 Pro. It is obvious that the Chinese and Japanese components have increased exponentially, to the detriment of the European and American components.

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Recently, the US has extended the Huawei ban that will continue at least until 2021. This way, we expect that future Huawei smartphones will be completely free from American technologies.

Huawei Mate 30 / Mate 30 5G specifications

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  • 6.62-inch (2340 x 1080 pixels) FHD+ OLED FullView Display with 19.5:9 aspect ratio, DCI-P3 wide color gamut
  • HUAWEI Kirin 990 (2 x Cortex-A76 Based 2.86 GHz + 2 x Cortex-A76 Based 2.09 GHz + 4 x Cortex-A55 1.86 GHz) processor with ARM Mali-G76MP16 GPU, Big Core + Tiny Core NPUs(Neural-network Processing Unit)

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  • HUAWEI Kirin 990 5G (2 x Cortex-A76 Based 2.86 GHz + 2 x Cortex-A76 Based 2.36 GHz + 4 x Cortex-A55 1.95 GHz) processor with ARM Mali-G76MP16 GPU, Dual Big Core + Tiny Core NPUs(Neural-network Processing Unit)
  • 8GB LPDDR4x RAM, 256GB storage, expandable memory up to 256GB with NM card
  • Android 10 with EMUI 10.0
  • Hybrid Dual SIM (nano + nano / NM card)
  • 40 MP ( Cine Camera, f/1.8 aperture) + 16 MP (Ultra Wide Angle Camera, f/2.2 aperture) + 8 MP (Telephoto Camera, f/2.4 aperture, OIS, 3x Optical Zoom1, 5x Hybrid Zoom2 and up to 30x Digital Zoom), PDAF, CAF, AIS

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  • 24MP front camera with f/2.0 aperture
  • In-display fingerprint sensor
  • Infrared sensor
  • Water-resistant (IP53)
  • 3.5mm audio jack
  • Dimensions:160.8 x 76.1 x 8.4 /9.2 (Leather) mm; Weight:196g
  • Dual 4G VoLTE, Wi-Fi 802.11 ac (2.4GHz and 5GHz) (wave2), Bluetooth 5.1 LE, GPS (L1 + L5 dual band), NFC, USB 3.1 Type-C (GEN1)
  • 4200mAh battery with 40W SuperCharge, 27W Wireless HUAWEI SuperCharge

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Source :
Nikkei

 

[Daniel808]

https://www.gizchina.com/2020/05/15/the-huawei-mate-30-5g-has-only-1-american-components/

On the way to self sufficient technology Respect

 

[UKBengali]

Just look at the proportion of non-Chinese components and even the Huawei designed SOC is fabricated in Taiwan.

Most of the components that Huawei uses are under countries that are susceptible to US pressure.

China has maybe another 5 years to go before it can make it's phones totally domestically.

 

[Daniel808]

Just look at the proportion of non-Chinese components and even the Huawei designed SOC is fabricated in Taiwan.

Most of the components that Huawei uses are under countries that are susceptible to US pressure.

China has maybe another 5 years to go before it can make it's phones totally domestically.

Relax mate, Rome is not build in a day

China components proportion already move high from 25 percent to 42 percent now, which is a very good sign.
And will increase much more in the next year, if they reach more than 60% that enough.

Just look at the graphics, another parts from other countries dramatically decreasing. Only japan have rising proportion.


But see a very close economic relationship between their companies, I bet they will not dare to declare economic war with China and change this status quo.

Japan even one of the Supporter of RCEP China's led Trade Bloc after TPP doomed by US, they are also on the way of signing China-South Korea-Japan FTA Agreement.

Japan is not little aussie, the more US pressure on their economic relation with China, only make japan move closer to China

 

[Han Patriot]

Just look at the proportion of non-Chinese components and even the Huawei designed SOC is fabricated in Taiwan.

Most of the components that Huawei uses are under countries that are susceptible to US pressure.

China has maybe another 5 years to go before it can make it's phones totally domestically.

The question is not whether there are local suppliers, all categories of products there has got Chinese alternatives, but the performance is not as good nor is the price competitive. Things will change when US force us to incubate these companies, they will threaten the whole supply chain. Our biggest problem is semicon equipment, the rest is achievable.

 

[Viet]

Huawei should surrender. Smartphones without software are just bricks.

 

[UKBengali]

Huawei should surrender. Smartphones without software are just bricks.

People in China and some other countries have no interest in Google apps and ecosystem. That is a large slice of the world market.

The question is not whether there are local suppliers, all categories of products there has got Chinese alternatives, but the performance is not as good nor is the price competitive. Things will change when US force us to incubate these companies, they will threaten the whole supply chain. Our biggest problem is semicon equipment, the rest is achievable.

I am pretty sure that China can make OLED screens for smartphones that are nearly as good as Samsung ones.

The main problem as you identify are SOCs as China is only at 14nm whereas the world has moved down to 7nm.
Worse case scenario is that Huawei focuses on the mid-end segment(14nm Kirin 710 SOC) while China catches up with the rest of world in SOC fabrication technology.

 

[Daniel808]

Huawei should surrender. Smartphones without software are just bricks.

Sorry, we are not south vietnamese that easy to surrender.

Chinese people since child always taught to never surrender how hard the condition is

 

[Viet]

People in China and some other countries have no interest in Google apps and ecosystem. That is a large slice of the world market.




I am pretty sure that China can make OLED screens for smartphones that are nearly as good as Samsung ones.

The main problem as you identify are SOCs as China is only at 14nm whereas the world has moved down to 7nm.
Worse case scenario is that Huawei focuses on the mid-end segment(14nm Kirin 710 SOC) while China catches up with the rest of world in SOC fabrication technology.

Will you buy smartphone with chinese OS, chinese apps?

Software needs regular upgrades, updated with security patches. Otherwise hackers can steal your privacy with an eye blink.

Huawei WiFi is full of bugs. Read US security bulletin.

 

[Daniel808]

People in China and some other countries have no interest in Google apps and ecosystem. That is a large slice of the world market.




I am pretty sure that China can make OLED screens for smartphones that are nearly as good as Samsung ones.

The main problem as you identify are SOCs as China is only at 14nm whereas the world has moved down to 7nm.
Worse case scenario is that Huawei focuses on the mid-end segment(14nm Kirin 710 SOC) while China catches up with the rest of world in SOC fabrication technology.

SMIC will start their 7nm chip production this year in Q4 2020.
“SMIC to start 7nm production in Q4”
https://bits-chips.nl/artikel/smic-to-start-7nm-production-in-q4/

Will you buy smartphone with chinese OS, chinese apps?

Software needs regular upgrades, updated with security patches. Otherwise hackers can steal your privacy with an eye blink.

Huawei WiFi is full of bugs. Read US security bulletin.

As long as there replacement, it doesn't affect me much.
I will still buy this Huawei Mate 30 5G, even 5G service not yet arrive in indonesia.


234,317 views|May 20, 2020,07:43am EDT
Huawei Suddenly Gives Millions Of Users This Surprise Google Alternative
Zak Doffman

SERGEI KARPUKHIN/TASS

Huawei is now in a race against time. Until last Friday, its mission was to keep government and enterprise users—as well 650 million active smartphone users—loyal to the brand while it fought the U.S. blacklist. Until last Friday, despite shrinking sales overseas—primarily due to the loss of Google, the company continued to post decent financials based on its performance at home.

And then last week hit. The U.S. celebrated the blacklist’s first anniversary by exponentially increasing the stakes, changing everything for Huawei. All flagship phones will be hit by Taiwan’s TSMC cutting off supplies—those sold at home and overseas. The key beneficiaries—somewhat ironically—may well be other Chinese smartphone vendors able to replicate Huawei’s successful recipe.

Despite all this, Huawei has suddenly unveiled a surprise alternative to Google’s search and Play Store, a defiant move against both the blacklist and Google, another targeted attempt to offer a viable full-fat Android and Play Store alternative.

Huawei and its supporters in Beijing have around 12-months to find a compromise with Washington or a workable replacement for that silicon supply chain—after that, stockpiles will diminish. Huawei is taking the view that a compromise or workaround can and must be found. The alternative is too drastic to contemplate. This time, the use of the word “survival” is not melodramatic.
And so to the company’s hastily rejigged HAS2020—its global analyst conference. There’s little surprise that, as management recoils from the shockwave of the latest U.S. beating, there has also been business as usual talk of new tech and impressive innovation stemming from the 15% of sales it commits to R&D. And, of course, the continuing search for those elusive Google gap-fillers.

Piece by piece, we have seen Huawei build an ecosystem that it sees as a third-way alternative to Google’s full-fat Android and iOS. Last year, hopes were pinned on the most radical possible option, an entirely new, ground-up OS—but that was soon watered down into an expansion of the open-source version of Android that Huawei will not lose. What we did see, though, was a huge acceleration of Huawei Mobile Services (HMS), a swap-out for Google’s GMS, and the app ecosystem to go with it.

In recent weeks, we have seen a trail of confirmations around replacements for Google apps—like maps, and a revamped AppGallery to replace the Play Store. We have even seen Huawei talk up app security measures as a differentiator to Google, which has had issues with screening the millions of apps now on Play Store.

Back in March, just ahead of the P40 launch, I reported on pilot testing of two new Huawei apps, “Search” and “AppSearch,” both intended as replacements for Google functionality on Huawei phones. The first to replace core search itself—a major money-spinner for Google, the second to make it easy for users to search for and install popular apps, either from Huawei’s AppGallery or third-party stores.

Both these apps had their issues. The use of a Chinese search engine, subject to Beijing’s influence if not laws outside China, is clearly an issue. We have seen reports of how other such platforms might be subject to interference. We have also seen reports about China’s efforts to control the messages received overseas, and with its close ties to Huawei many will fear the worst.

HUAWEI APPGALLERY

On the AppSearch front, the issues were more clearcut. It could be viewed as a clever way to bypass U.S. restrictions in spirit if not the letter of the law. Many of the most popular apps are U.S. owned, and where they are not available on the AppGallery, there will be concerns raised about Huawei easing installation for users through the use of an official app on the AppGallery.

Back in March, AppSearch was reportedly being tested in Germany. The app’s landing page at the time said it was designed to help users install their favorite apps on Huawei smartphones, listing Facebook and WhatsApp as examples. Shortly after my report was published, Huawei revoked access to AppSearch and its publicity. An instructional YouTube video, posted by Huawei Germany, was also pulled.

Well now it’s back—the race against time is on. The renamed “Petal Search” combines both “Search” and “AppSearch” into a single install. “Petal Search puts the world in the palm of your hand,” Huawei says, confirming that users can “search for your favorite phone apps with our state of the art technology.”

On the search front, Petal Search offers Huawei curated “daily weather forecasts and top news, live sports scores and schedules, video, image, and music searches,” as well as “financial news and stock market updates.”

All that plus the ability to search for and install apps. The biggest issue post-blacklist has been that app installation and Google workarounds have intimidated regular users. The new Petal Search is intended to make everything official and assured. Search for an app like “Instagram” or “Facebook,” and the results will come complete with an install option. If the app is available on the AppGallery, then that’s where it comes from. If not, a third-party app store will be used instead.

No word yet on the security measures to screen those applications coming from outside the AppGallery, and there are likely to be regional and national variances on what is available. What is clear, though, is that any suggestion that this might be an issue for Huawei in light of U.S. restrictions has diminished with escalating tensions. Huawei wants to ensure that as many as possible of its 650 million active smartphone users stick with the brand over the coming difficult months.

Meanwhile, Huawei’s primary domestic rival in overseas markets, Xiaomi, will be watching on from the sidelines. It has gladly picked up the baton to build from where Huawei left off. In its first quarter results, released today, the company reports better than 13% sales growth, building on its stellar end to last year.

With international consumers having shown a willingness to buy Chinese phones and a lack of willingness to drop Google, Xiaomi is enviously placed. According to Xiaomi, overseas revenue for the quarter increased almost 49% year-on-year, “and for the first time, accounted for half of our total revenue.” These are Huawei-like results, and will be a genuine concern for its larger rival.

Unexpectedly, Huawei has now offered its users a viable quick-fix for the today problem—albeit nothing yet as to how the silicon issue might resolve. As the company deals with that challenge, its domestic rival has shown that those millions of international users might not wait around to see what happens.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdof...ns-of-users-with-critical-google-replacement/

 

[Han Patriot]

People in China and some other countries have no interest in Google apps and ecosystem. That is a large slice of the world market.




I am pretty sure that China can make OLED screens for smartphones that are nearly as good as Samsung ones.

The main problem as you identify are SOCs as China is only at 14nm whereas the world has moved down to 7nm.
Worse case scenario is that Huawei focuses on the mid-end segment(14nm Kirin 710 SOC) while China catches up with the rest of world in SOC fabrication technology.

I think designing it to whatever ISA is not an issue, it's still fabrication. Huawei is pretty good at Arm ISA up to 5nm but the future is Riscv.

 

[UKBengali]

I think designing it to whatever ISA is not an issue, it's still fabrication. Huawei is pretty good at Arm ISA up to 5nm but the future is Riscv.

Yeah it will take China up to 5 years to catchup with TSMC.

One bright spot is that the medium-performance Kirin 710 can be fabricated by China on it's current 14nm technology and so all is not lost. Most sales are in the medium-performance category anyway.

SMIC will start their 7nm chip production this year in Q4 2020.
“SMIC to start 7nm production in Q4”
https://bits-chips.nl/artikel/smic-to-start-7nm-production-in-q4/

It is not 7nm but 14nm+ - 14nm with "features" of 7nm whatever that means.

 

[Daniel808]

Need to admit, this Huawei Mate 30 5G is amazing.
That's why I fall in love with this

 

[Daniel808]

 

[flowerfan2020]

Will you buy smartphone with chinese OS, chinese apps?

Software needs regular upgrades, updated with security patches. Otherwise hackers can steal your privacy with an eye blink.

Huawei WiFi is full of bugs. Read US security bulletin.

Dont' come out until you can answer me what 5g tech. Vietnam has?