The Guardian: Öcalan - My real role in Kurds' struggle for freedom

[xenon54 out]

@Bahoz

We have banned PKK members on Defence.pk before. Since we walk a very thin line, trying to create a balanced debate, i would request you to always be reasonable and engage in respectful debates. As much as we like to have diverse opinions, we never ever, under no circumstances allow incitement of violence. Please make a note of this.

Thanks

This member is the same pkk member who was banned about 5-6 months ago.

 

[Bahoz]

@Bahoz

We have banned PKK members on Defence.pk before. Since we walk a very thin line, trying to create a balanced debate, i would request you to always be reasonable and engage in respectful debates. As much as we like to have diverse opinions, we never ever, under no circumstances allow incitement of violence. Please make a note of this.

Thanks

I have been trying to create a bridge between people for far too long now but the same racist members keep going off topic and make fun of my topics. I have reported their off-topicness numerous times but nothing was done. I even opened a thread in the HQ section... Again, nothing was done. What do you want me to do?

You can look at every single one of my topics and you will find the same racist remarks by the racist kemalists. How can this be accepted?

 

[Kompromat]

This member is the same pkk member who was banned about 5-6 months ago.

If i come across an IP trace, i will most definately take action. It isn't the case so far.

 

[xenon54 out]

And now he is calling us racist for hating a terrorist organisation, this guy is hilarious.

 

[Kompromat]

I have been trying to create a bridge between people for far too long now but the same racist members keep going off topic and make fun of my topics. I have reported their off-topicness numerous times but nothing was done. I even opened a thread in the HQ section... Again, nothing was done. What do you want me to do?

You can look at every single one of my topics and you will find the same racist remarks by the racist kemalists. How can this be accepted?

Racism is not accepted. We have not been looking at reports for a few weeks because we are testing a new software which is supposed to bolster our capabilities to moderated a huge number of threads and posts in a short time.

 

[Doritos11]

No point in arguing this anyway, tried it both our thoughts ( Kurds - neighbors ) go against each other which is why it keeps resulting in wars.

 

[xenon54 out]

Racism is not accepted. We have not been looking at reports for a few weeks because we are testing a new software which is supposed to bolster our capabilities to moderated a huge number of threads and posts in a short time.

There is not a single racist comment from Turks, ban me if you find any racist comment from my side, he is calling us racist because we hate pkk.

 

[Kompromat]

There is not a single racist comment from Turks, ban me if you find any racist comment from my side, he is calling us racist because we hate pkk.

Of Course, there can be no racism against an organization. Though if someone makes such remarks towards Kurds or Turks, it would be a breach of forum rules.

 

[Bahoz]

There is not a single racist comment from Turks, ban me if you find any racist comment from my side, he is calling us racist because we hate pkk.

The PKK is the Kurds. If you hate PKK, you hate Kurds. How many times do I have to tell you this? The ignorance and denialism is strong in this young fella.

You are racists because you can not distance yourself from the killing of innocent Kurds. You have a person like sinan who makes fun of the killing of Kurdish civilians in all my topics. You have neptune who said that the 36 civilians killed in Roboski massacres deserved it. Can it become more racistic? And we have you who has a profile picture of ataturk who killed thousands of Kurds in Dersim massacre and Zilan Massacre. If I have a profile picture of Pol Pott, Milosevic or Idi Amin, would that not be racist? Of course it would.

 

[Kompromat]

No point in arguing this anyway, tried it both our thoughts ( Kurds - neighbors ) go against each other which is why it keeps resulting in wars.

Kurds ought to integrate, Iraqis and Turks ought to work hard to create an inclusive society. A compromise is the best solution.

 

[xenon54 out]

Of Course, there can be no racism against an organization. Though if someone makes such remarks towards Kurds or Turks, it would be a breach of forum rules.

He keeps saying that pkk is Kurds and Kurd are pkk thats why we are racist, he is a brainwashed terrorist worshipper, there are enough people who can confirm this if you want.

 

[Kompromat]

The PKK is the Kurds. If you hate PKK, you hate Kurds. How many times do I have to tell you this? The ignorance and denialism is strong in this young fella.

You are racists because you can not distance yourself from the killing of innocent Kurds. You have a person like sinan who makes fun of the killing of Kurdish civilians in all my topics. You have neptune who said that the 36 civilians killed in Roboski massacres deserved it. Can it become more racistic? And we have you who has a profile picture of ataturk who killed thousands of Kurds in Dersim massacre and Zilan Massacre. If I have a profile picture of Pol Pott, Milosevic or Idi Amin, would that not be racist? Of course it would.

I would respectfully, disagree with the assertion PKK = Kurdish people.
You do realize that PKK is internationally banned in many nations, just like ETA.

 

[xenon54 out]

The PKK is the Kurds. If you hate PKK, you hate Kurds. How many times do I have to tell you this? The ignorance and denialism is strong in this young fella.

@Aeronaut
Thats what i mean.

 

[Doritos11]

Kurds ought to integrate, Iraqis and Turks ought to work hard to create an inclusive society. A compromise is the best solution.

Trust me, does not work.
In 1958 in Iraq Abd al Karim Qasim ( Half Kurdish ) got in power by a military coup, made Kurdish an official language and granted them all the rights, yet Mustafa Barzani continued his fight for some nationalistic reason or whatever. Theres no solution which is why it leads to war.

 

[Kompromat]

He keeps saying that pkk is Kurds and Kurd are pkk thats why we are racist, he is a brainwashed terrorist worshipper, there are enough people who can confirm this if you want.

I will keep that in my note.

@Bahoz

I hope you realize that as an organization we are liable to laws too.