The Greatest Deception

[Taimoor Khan]

That initial segment is intended to raise questions and you should follow the entire discussion through to the end where they answer such questions that were raised. Taking just an excerpt out of context is highly misleading. Again, the questions are an introduction to the theory of General Relativity, and not to negate gravity.

You need to go back to my original post, where I mentioned that theory of gravity as per newton in this day and age, with quantum physics or what not , is becoming controversial. Then you pop up start questioning if I have read my physics books in my ten grade or not. Yes ofcourse I know g=9.8m/s.

https://science.howstuffworks.com/environmental/earth/geophysics/question2322.htm


Albert Einstein, who won the Nobel Prize in Physics in 1921, contributed an alternate theory of gravity in the early 1900s. It was part of his famous General Theory of Relativity, and it offered a very different explanation from Newton's Law of Universal Gravitation. Einstein didn't believe gravity was a force at all; he said it was a distortion in the shape of space-time, otherwise known as "the fourth dimension" (see How Special Relativity Works to learn about space-time).


Its a completely different phenomena as per Einstein to the one you were referring to when you question that if I read my school books. As per above, the gravity that YOU were referring to simply do not exists.

 

[VCheng]

Its a completely different phenomena as per Einstein to the one you were referring to when you question that if I read my school books. As per above, the gravity that YOU were referring to simply do not exists.

Yes, what Einstein's work does is provide an explanation for gravity according to his theory, and never does it try to negate the phenomenon. Gravity exists, but the exact nature of its creation is the subject of ongoing work, that is all. That is how the scientific process always works, and there is nothing controversial here.

 

[Taimoor Khan]

Yes, what Einstein's work does is provide an explanation for gravity according to his theory, and never does it try to negate the phenomenon. Gravity exists, but the exact nature of its creation is the subject of ongoing work, that is all. That is how the scientific process always works, and there is nothing controversial here.

Nothing controversial? what are you on about. Gravity is not even a force according to Einstein for crying out loud! That physics book that you were taking a jibe about that told you about the Uncle Newton theory of gravity is completely negated by Einstein. You cant compare Apple and oranges. These are completely two different phenomenon.

Now go back to my original question about the water surface making a curve over the earth crest as seen from satellite imagery, and how it doesn't make sense as to how liquid behave (water surface), and you jumping in conversation trying to be smartypants and giving your two cents about the gravity (Newtonian) , what I was trying to tell you, the gravity itself is a controversial subject.

 

[VCheng]

Nothing controversial? what are you on about. Gravity is not even a force according to Einstein for crying out loud! That physics book that you were taking a jibe about that told you about the Uncle Newton theory of gravity is completely negated by Einstein. You cant compare Apple and oranges. These are completely two different phenomenon.

Now go back to my original question about the water surface making a curve over the earth crest as seen from satellite imagery, and how it doesn't make sense as to how liquid behave (water surface), and you jumping in conversation trying to be smartypants and giving your two cents about the gravity (Newtonian) , what I was trying to tell you, the gravity itself is a controversial subject.

And yet both Einstein and Newton agree that it is mass that creates gravity. Newton postulates an attractive force, but Einstein postulates a time-space warp as the cause, that is all.

 

[Taimoor Khan]

And yet both Einstein and Newton agree that it is mass that creates gravity. Newton postulates an attractive force, but Einstein postulates a time-space warp as the cause, that is all.

The thing which is not even agreed on as to what it is or how it work, cannot be used to explain for what I asked, i.e the water surface and its bending/curve over earth's crest, as seen or "shown" from the outer space.

You can carry on with your rants.

 

[VCheng]

The thing which is not even agreed on as to what it is or how it work, cannot be used to explain for what I asked, i.e the water surface and its bending/curve over earth's crest, as seen or "shown" from the outer space.

It is the Earth's mass that causes the water to spread out over its surface by virtue of gravity - regardless of whose postulate is applied.

 

[ARMalik]

Very interesting topic. I have for many years done some personal research on this topic. My observations are as follows:

1- The main stream teachings about Earth and other planets are deliberately misleading. The information about the Universe is deliberately misleading.

2- A lot of historical books and records from centuries back have been altered, these also include Astronomical books. And the "Real books and Records" are tightly controlled and accessible to only a select few. In other words only a select few know the reality but unfortunately these people who have this knowledge are NOT good people.

3- There is supposed evidence to support that Earth is Flat, but there is also supposed evidence to support that Earth is round. But the strangest thing is that there is "NO Clear Cut" evidence. Why?

4- There is evidence that the Earth is "Much, much Bigger" then it is shown on the maps. In fact at least 100 times bigger than presently shown!! The parts of Earth where we humans live, that is, the 5-continents, is just ONE colony among hundreds of other colonies. The areas of Earth where Humans do not have access, are actually inhibited by other humans or Humanoids like creatures.

5- It appears that there is a "DOME" or "Enclosure" which surrounds "Human Earth" and this is what keeps the Air, Water and other stuff contained within the "Earth's Atmosphere".

6- The Sun does not have fusion reactions. In fact Sun and other heavenly bodies are all "ELECTRIC". In Fact Tesla was right when he said that "The Universe is Electric".
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[Englishman]

Lol

You can't argue with flat earthers....

 

[VCheng]

4- There is evidence that the Earth is "Much, much Bigger" then it is shown on the maps. In fact at least 100 times bigger than presently shown!! The parts of Earth where we humans live, that is, the 5-continents, is just ONE colony among hundreds of other colonies. The areas of Earth where Humans do not have access, are actually inhibited by other humans or Humanoids like creatures.

I would like to see the personal research that led you to this observation. Please do share.

 

[ARMalik]

I would like to see the personal research that led you to this observation. Please do share.

And that is why it is called "Personal" smart arse. You take it or leave it. See ya.

 

[Taimoor Khan]

It is the Earth's mass that causes the water to spread out over its surface by virtue of gravity - regardless of whose postulate is applied.

If it is indeed gravity, however you like to describe it, the water surface/level should remain flat, as observed in our daily lives.

Unless you are shown pics from the outerspace where water is behaving the way it should not. Let me repeat, its not the issue about how water "spreads" out but why the water surface/level is shown to be curved.

Have you seen water surface/level in curved shaped in any contained environment let alone, outside of it?

 

[Krptonite]

I would like to see the personal research that led you to this observation. Please do share.

You tried

Unfortunately, written format is inadequate to properly convey such topics, there's bound to be confusion.

 

[ARMalik]

And that is why "rotating" Earth Theory "appears" Total Bullshi.t!

 

[VCheng]

You tried

Unfortunately, written format is inadequate to properly convey such topics, there's bound to be confusion.

I think I should beg my leave from this wondrous thread.

 

[Krptonite]

If it is indeed gravity, however you like to describe it, the water surface/level should remain flat, as observed in our daily lives.


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Unless you are shown pics from the outerspace where water is behaving the way it should not. Let me repeat, its not the issue about how water "spreads" out but why the water surface/level is shown to be curved.


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Have you seen water surface/level in curved shaped in any contained environment let alone, outside of it?

The water's curved because it wraps around the earth and held in place by gravity, besides that its surface acts as a streched elastic membrane ( surface tension).

The examples you gave for flat water level also hold true, only on a much smaller scale, in a circle, on its circumference, the shortest distance between two adjacent points is a straight line. The individual inference on a personal observation is on a much smaller scale compared to the circumference of the earth, so an individual observes a flat water bodies. You can look up long distance bridges over water bodies, engineers have to account for the curvature of the earth and adjust the bridge design accordingly.

I've tried explaining this three different ways now