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You said " I admit we were very stupid at the time, " its true mentality of Chinese in the past. The Chinese don't have intelligent on historical knowledge to look down at Vietnamese. In fact Chinese were considered as betrayal to Soviet Union and Socialist countries who were by side with you in WW II and cold war, it included Vietnam. and so Vietnamese look down at you.

China made a conflict with Soviet Union 1969 to have a reason to change China's policy to the Wests, to be "slaves" of USA base on your idea. I think Vietnamese were shock when USA attacked on us brutally in Quang Tri in South Vietnam and bombarded Hanoi 1972, in the same time China welcomed Nixon in Peking.

In the Geneva confrence 1954, china disclosed his traitor mentality when China discussed secretly with France in back of Vietnam.

What you said about lazinees of labour workers in Vietnam, it is troll of uneducated Chinese. Why we could export to the world textile and electronic products which belong to biggest USS$ revenue of us.

I ask you: Why in time of "Gong she ren min" in China, 30 million Chinese were dead in consequence of famine ? were Chinese lazy ?
You are too stupid man. I already explain to you the main cause of the Sino-Soviet split and it ain't us who betray communism and socialism. It was the Soviet. In turn, we seek to destroy those who betray communism.

Again, learn more history on Sino-Soviet relation and the reason for the split. Don't waste my time until you do.

If Chinese want to work as slaves with low wages then that's your choice, we can't be like you Our productivity can't be high if they pay us low.

Yes, we complain, lazy, arrive late at work, go on strike a lot but FDI enterprises are keep coming to Vietnam and you know WHY? You get what you pay for. You can't expect people to give you top notch services while paying them peauts...I know you Chinese can because you will do anything because you have a job......but we can't because we have something called self-respect. Pay us right and we will give you the right services, pay us peanuts and you'll get xhit services from us.
Self-respect, my ***. LOL Trust me when the mass of your population are uneducated, you don't ask but only do what others give you. You will always be a shit country economically until you change your mindset. Luckily for you, your government recognized somewhat and tried to mimic China strategy by having "pro-foreign" investment. The foreigners ain't coming to your country for your "skill". They come because your people are numerous and cheap, especially after China is moving out of this cheap manufacturing hole.
 
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Just like how Vietnam emulated Chinese culture and civilization which they nowdays claim as their own:crazy:

Vietnam doesn't have the power to do so. I think Koreans are really better at this. They are coping everything from ancient China, the culture most.
 
You are too stupid man. I already explain to you the main cause of the Sino-Soviet split and it ain't us who betray communism and socialism. It was the Soviet. In turn, we seek to destroy those who betray communism.

Again, learn more history on Sino-Soviet relation and the reason for the split. Don't waste my time until you do.

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China criticized Soviet Union about socialism and for what related to with personal cult of Stalin in the past, then Soviet union was called by Chinese as Revisionist,

but there was very serous when China attacked on Soviet Union 1969. This comedian made by China to show that Soviet Union is China's enemy. Who was very happy about that ? Uncle Sam.

In fact co-existence policy of Soviet Union, China has been copied it, when Mao welcomed Nixon in Peking 1972. There is main reason for Sino-Soviet split is that China would like to change policy to a side with USA and not for " who betray communism and socialism".

It was main target of China in cold war when China made it very noisy about Sino-China split and attack on Soviet Union.

It was very funny story, stupied !
 
typing fail. such cow urine for treatment is not exist in Vietnam. You mother take it, its chinese medicin. is it really good for your mother health ?

Sad to tell you, my mother is dead. So your cow urine didn't work as you stated. You are not only a cow urine drinker, you are also a snake oil salesman.

Anyway, I got a private message from the mods *wink*wink*, so I don't really want to carry on with this nonsense with you. Drink your cow urine and be happy. Oh and don't forget to add a few ice cubes. It will make the CU taste much more refreshing since you guys must be getting hot these days.
 
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When China can deliver 20,000 tons of TNT over Hanoi and Haiphong in 11 days like the U.S did in 1972, come back here and start talking about "carpet bombing every Vietnamese city". China for sure will have minimal casualties because you guys won't have enough jets/copters/pilots to lose like the U.S. Air warfare is not your speciality, you're just a rookie in this category

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What's the point of this? So VC claimed they destroyed this amount of US military planes. Assuming it is true, so what? US's economy is # 1, where does Vietcong economy rank?
 
China criticized Soviet Union about socialism and for what related to with personal cult of Stalin in the past, then Soviet union was called by Chinese as Revisionist,

but there was very serous when China attacked on Soviet Union 1969. This comedian made by China to show that Soviet Union is China's enemy. Who was very happy about that ? Uncle Sam.

In fact co-existence policy of Soviet Union, China has been copied it, when Mao welcomed Nixon in Peking 1972. There is main reason for Sino-Soviet split is that China would like to change policy to a side with USA and not for " who betray communism and socialism".

It was main target of China in cold war when China made it very noisy about Sino-China split and attack on Soviet Union.

It was very funny story, stupied !
Let me teach you some more.

I want to REMIND you it wasn't us who betrayed communism and cuddled up with the West Capitalists first. It was the Soviet Union who betrayed the idea of a communist world, a brotherhood of socialism where we stand together to resist the movement of capitalism and imperialism. At the time of ideological battle, there can only be one that can live on earth, either communism or capitalism. Having the peaceful coexistence means a betrayal to this idea of a socialist world and allows capitalists to live which opposite of a real communist world.

SEARCH AND LEARN, my friend. Please take my advice to learn first before talking back to me. I don't have time to teach you all the times. I want good debate, not teaching kid first so he understands and argue objectively and logically.

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Sino-Soviet Split

The political split between the Soviet Union and China began when the relatively harmonious relations between the two countries became acrimonious in 1959 after Khrushchev opened talks with the USA in pursuit of his policy of “peaceful coexistence”. In 1960, Khrushchev withdrew Soviet technical advisers from China, and in 1961 launched a public polemic against China’s ally Albania. In 1962, the dispute erupted into mutual abuse and hostile military actions and most significantly, splits in almost all the Communist Parties across the capitalist world.

Background

Socialism in One Country: At first, the significance of ‘socialism in one country’ for Communist Parties outside of the USSR was that they were obliged to subordinate their own interests to those of the Soviet Union, to defend and build socialism in the USSR, an expression of working class internationalism. However, it became apparent that it was equally possible to ‘build socialism’ in China, Italy or Britain, and in the early 1950s all the CPs adopted the “Our-land Road to Socialism” as their national program and led to the growth of “Euro-communism”.

Twentieth Congress of the CPSU: In the wake of the Twentieth Congress of the CPSU, the Chinese and Soviet bureaucracies were more and more at odds with one another. The Chinese leadership was fearful of the instability which could follow from Khrushchev’s denunciation of Stalin and the promised liberalisation.

The Differences: The main historical differences between the Chinese and Russian Revolutions at this time were:

  1. The different level of development of the productive forcesChina was more backward, with little heavy industry and only a small agricultural surplus. In 1956-1960, the USSR was at a stage in the development of the productive forces at which national resources were no longer able to develop the economy in isolation from the world economy, and the capacity ofbureaucratic command to develop the economy was becoming exhausted (thus the promises of “liberalisation”), while China was at an earlier stage in the construction of a planned economy; Khrushchev adopted the policy of “peaceful coexistence” to defuse the Cold War and open up trade with the West;
  2. The dominant role of the peasantry in the Chinese revolution, as opposed to the Russian Revolution. The working class was the leading force in both cases, but the Russian Revolution was made in the cities, and was taken out to the countryside; the Chinese Revolution was made in the countryside, and rolled in from the countryside to the cities;
  3. The different perspective in relation to imperialism – the USSR now felt less threatened, both internally and externally, but wanted trade with the West, while the Chinese rightly felt threatened by imperialism, with Chiang Kai Shek and his Army just across the Formosa Straits; a vast American Army garrisoned in Korea, and more were pouring into Vietnam..
In 1958, the Chinese had launched the Great Leap Forward to address the backwardness of their economy and prospect that they may have to “go it alone” with Soviet support.

Maoism

At the time of the international split in the Communist Parties, Maoism was clearly identifiable as aleft tendency in Stalinism but embraced a wide range of political tendencies in its growth and differentiation.

The fundamental thesis of Maoism is that the USSR had been transformed into a capitalist stateby the election of Nikita Khrushchev as its national leader. The other distinguishing feature derives from the nature of the Chinese revolution – a national democratic revolution, led by the Communist Party, based on a peasant army, which grew over into the establishment of a deformed workers’ state resting on the peasant masses.

“Soviet-Social imperialism": The Chinese leadership felt obliged to carry their polemic against Khrushchev’s policies to the point of ascribing a bourgeois class origin to them, thus closing off all possibility of compromise, with fraternal debate replaced by “class struggle”. The Chinese characterised Khrushchev as a ‘capitalist roader’ and the Soviet Union as a ‘social-imperialist’ state. In its foreign policy, and in the propaganda of their sympathisers in the capitalist world, the USSR was portrayed as a worse enemy of the working class than imperialism itself, the ‘greatest danger to world peace’, etc. This criticism was based not on any analysis of changes in the relations of production in the Soviet Union, or the nature of the state, but simply on the policies of the government.

Communists in the capitalist countries who sympathised with the Chinese CP and split from the pro-Moscow factions, regarded their former comrades, not simply as ‘mistaken’, but as representatives of an imperialist power. Under these conditions, there was no possibility of a united front in the interests of the working class.

It was not long before the need to fight ‘Soviet social imperialism’ meant China making its owndiplomatic overtures to the US, and making deals with the US aimed against any national liberation movement which chose to remain within the orbit of ‘social imperialism’ and accept aid from the USSR.

This diplomatic struggle led to a division of the world’s national liberation movements into rival pro-China and pro-Soviet camps. The USA was able to chose to make it a three-way fight or lend support to one or another party in the internal struggle, choosing their tactics solely in order to maximise the advantage for imperialism and most weaken the liberation struggle. One of the most scandalous episodes in this saga was the Soviet aid that never seemed to be able to reach the Vietnamese because it travelled through China.

The transition from ultra-left denunciation of Khrushchev in favour of a harder anti-imperialist line in 1960, to forming pacts with the US, took place over a decade.

“Bloc of four classes": In 1949, Mao defined the nature of the Chinese Revolution and its task as follows:

‘... the people’s democratic dictatorship ... to deprive the reactionaries of the right to speak and let the people alone have that right. Who are the people? At the present stage in China they are the working class, the peasantry, the urban petit-bourgeoisie and the national bourgeoisie. These classes, led by the working class and the Communist Party, unite to form their own state and elect their own government; they enforce their dictatorship over the running dogs of imperialism – the landlord class and the bureaucratic-bourgeoisie, as well as the representatives of those classes, the Kuomintang reactionaries and their accomplices. ... Democracy is practiced within the ranks of the people, who enjoy the rights of freedom of speech, assembly, association and so on’. [On the People’s Democratic Dictatorship, Mao Zedong, March 1949]

The same article also refers to the leadership of the working class, within the alliance between workers and peasants, within the ‘bloc of four classes’. In the early 1950s, the “bloc of four classes” meant attempts to incorporate bourgeois representatives in the government, limiting calls for expropriation of capitalists to ‘foreign monopoly capitalism’, in the interests of maintaining a bloc with the ‘national bourgeoisie’. In the 1960s, it meant the subordination of the urban proletariat to the peasantry. In the 1960s, it meant forming Popular Fronts with bourgeois governments at the expense of the working class.

The Chinese Communist Party engaged in very complex political manoeuvring during the 30-year-long national liberation and civil war. Once in power, the tactic of uniting as broad a front as possible against the common enemy was habitually taken to an extreme. Maoism was ‘Popular Front-ism’ par excellence.

“Socialism in one commune": While pursuing a policy of national self-sufficiency, the Chinese set out to industrialise by each commune in the countryside establishing its own miniature self-contained economy with its own steel manufacturing, light industry and so on, and dispersing the urban workers and professional people into the countryside to ‘learn from the peasants’. TheGreat Leap Forward organised to implement this policy had led to a famine in which 30 million had died by 1962.

After the fall of Khrushchev in October 1964, his successors made unsuccessful efforts to patch up the split. From that time forward, the Communist Parties of the world were split into two factions. The break with the USSR generated tensions within China as well, and Mao launched theCultural Revolution to consolidate his position.
 
Sad to tell you, my mother is dead. So your cow urine didn't work as you stated. You are not only a cow urine drinker, you are also a snake oil salesman.

Anyway, I got a private message from the mods *wink*wink*, so I don't really want to carry on with this nonsense with you. Drink your cow urine and be happy. Oh and don't forget to add a few ice cubes. It will make the CU taste much more refreshing since you guys must be getting hot these days.

When you respect your mother, don't insult on mother of others, even though a any woman in this world. they were victim of human traffickers in this world..

You are uneducated boy.
 
China criticized Soviet Union about socialism and for what related to with personal cult of Stalin in the past, then Soviet union was called by Chinese as Revisionist,

but there was very serous when China attacked on Soviet Union 1969. This comedian made by China to show that Soviet Union is China's enemy. Who was very happy about that ? Uncle Sam.

In fact co-existence policy of Soviet Union, China has been copied it, when Mao welcomed Nixon in Peking 1972. There is main reason for Sino-Soviet split is that China would like to change policy to a side with USA and not for " who betray communism and socialism".

It was main target of China in cold war when China made it very noisy about Sino-China split and attack on Soviet Union.

It was very funny story, stupied !

lol, Mao had defended Stalinism many times despite that Stalin has backstabbed China so many times.

It was USSR who had abandoned the communism and wanted to embrace the western democracy, now they got what they want.

With a weaker economy and industrial capability, USSR has destroyed itself by engaging into a military race with USA.
 
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What's the point of this? So VC claimed they destroyed this amount of US military planes. Assuming it is true, so what? US's economy is # 1, where does Vietcong economy rank?
Claim? That's the number the U.S admitted losing, kid. Read "Air War in Vietnam by Phil Chinnery" for your further education We claim over 4200 shot down so I guess the real figure is somewhere in the middle..like 4000 eh. Talking about carpet bombing every Vietnamese city, you Chinese do not come even close to anywhere in having that kind of capability; that's the point:omghaha:
 
Claim? That's the number the U.S admitted losing, kid. Read "Air War in Vietnam by Phil Chinnery" for your further education We claim over 4200 shot down so I guess the real figure is somewhere in the middle..like 4000 eh. Talking about carpet bombing every Vietnamese city, you Chinese do not come even close to anywhere in having that kind of capability; that's the point:omghaha:
The point is in case you were unable to comprehend is that the US bombed you guys back to 1945. The USA after withdrawal is still #1 in economy and military. They lost 53,000 men but you guys lost over 2m lives and your infrastructure got a beating.
You can say they lost 10trillion $ in equipment, but so what? You guys want them to be your daddy even after they dropped napalm and agent orange in your land and raped your women.
I find it hard to believe you can laugh at the expense of your country people. I. Guess Vietcong are really dumb people. Maybe you will kiss and worship China's *** if they drop a thermonuclear bomb at Ho chi minh city? Vietcong logic at best---laughing at their own suffering
 
The point is in case you were unable to comprehend is that the US bombed you guys back to 1945. The USA after withdrawal is still #1 in economy and military. They lost 53,000 men but you guys lost over 2m lives and your infrastructure got a beating.
You can say they lost 10trillion $ in equipment, but so what? You guys want them to be your daddy even after they dropped napalm and agent orange in your land and raped your women.
I find it hard to believe you can laugh at the expense of your country people. I. Guess Vietcong are really dumb people. Maybe you will kiss and worship China's *** if they drop a thermonuclear bomb at Ho chi minh city? Vietcong logic at best---laughing at their own suffering
We're waiting to worship you guys here, why so long?
 
When you respect your mother, don't insult on mother of others, even though a any woman in this world. they were victim of human traffickers in this world..

You are uneducated boy.

Son, not all mothers are to be respected. It doesn't take much to spread your legs (you should try doing it sometimes) and shoot a baby out. Some and many mothers abandon their children, mistreat their children, use their children, sell their children for personal gains. So to blindly say respect mothers is (fill in your own word).
 
Son, not all mothers are to be respected. It doesn't take much to spread your legs (you should try doing it sometimes) and shoot a baby out. Some and many mothers abandon their children, mistreat their children, use their children, sell their children for personal gains. So to blindly say respect mothers is (fill in your own word).

This is crminal existed every where in the world, we don't care here in our debate. Your troll disclosed that you are uneducated boy. Its true when i could say that you are idot Chinese boy, you didn't studied and making plates washing in Chinese Kitchen in Canada.
 
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