The Ghazi That Defied The Indian Navy

[RajputWarrior]

you give bloody nose , while you get knocked out

They forget they start it and end up running with their tails between their legs

 

[Windjammer]

Now you are clutching to straws. LCA and Arjun are in development not deployed in war time like PN Ghazi. Arjun MK I is already in active duty. 128 inducted.

Russians shot down South Korean because it changed its flight course, didn't identify itself and invaded Russian airspace. I just met with a guy whose brother was taking pilot training and mistakenly entered US Naval airspace. Missile was locked and he had just 2 mins to change the course.

I am not discussing JF BLock II or your nuke submarine development for which you can quote LCA and Arjun. The example I gave was accident that happened in actual operation during war time, not some testing of developmental air craft.

Sorry sir, I think you don't want to accept a simple thing that something went wrong in case of PN Ghazi and your reason provided for its sinking is not verifiable. How come you know that it was mine prematurely malfunctioning or other malfunctioning, and even if I accept it, it was a gross mistake which cost PN a lot.

Even when two airplanes collide in mid air, there is official investigation. Kindly give me report of official investigation of PN Ghazi and exact reason for its sinking. If you can't then there is endless list of reasons that can be given, like incompetency of the sailors.

I rest my case here. I know you will now bring unrelated and illogical examples like LCA, Arjun, Gorshkov.

See you are acutely cherry picking.....nothing surprising....how would you describe the Korean pilot changing course, pilot error or an instrument failure/malfunction.....either way it was an error that cost the lives of many.
The LCA example was in place to let you know that what was supposed to have been in service by 1998.......14 years later is still going through development phase.....that too in an ideal world...... did you hold any one accountable or accepted it as fate.
Forget this, what about the incident involving and emerging after the sinking of INS Kukri.....has even any consideration been given to the petition filed by a survivor against Rear Admiral (Retd) Rishi Raj Sood, who showing cowardice left the scene in the accompanying ship I.N.S Kirpan. Rather than being court martialed, was awarded the Vir Chakra.....thats even after a lapse of forty years. Well sir, rather than assuming about others, you need some self introspection.... for the real culprit(s) may be very close to you. !!

 

[Windjammer]

They forget they start it and end up running with their tails between their legs

Like 2002 for example.......in case you are in denial.....let me set your tail on fire.

Casualties

The standoff inflicted heavy casualties. It took India months to mobilize and lost 789 men[22] to 1874 men[23] in the standoff. Around 100 soldiers were killed in the initial phase of laying mines, another 250 were injured. The remaining casualties were a result of artillery duels with Pakistan and vehicle accidents. The Pakistani losses were estimated to be about 34 casualties and 10 injuries.
Cost of standoff

The Indian cost for the buildup was 21,600 crore (US$3.93 billion) being much greater than that of Pakistani $1.4 billion.[24]

 

[KRAIT]

See you are acutely cherry picking.....nothing surprising....how would you describe the Korean pilot changing course, pilot error or an instrument failure/malfunction.....either way it was an error that cost the lives of many.
The LCA example was in place to let you know that what was supposed to have been in service by 1998.......14 years later is still going through development phase.....that too in an ideal world...... did you hold any one accountable or accepted it as fate.
Forget this, what about the incident involving and emerging after the sinking of INS Kukri.....has even any consideration been given to the petition filed by a survivor against Rear Admiral (Retd) Rishi Raj Sood, who showing cowardice left the scene in the accompanying ship I.N.S Kirpan. Rather than being court martialed, was awarded the Vir Chakra.....thats even after a lapse of forty years. Well sir, rather than assuming about others, you need some self introspection.... for the real culprit(s) may be very close to you. !!

Introspection.....Why would I talk of Indian naval officer, whether he ran away or not, if the issue is sinking of PN Ghazi.

Don't dodge the real issue. US destroyer failed, the country which has world's best technology, simply put the destroyer was not worthy for war. In ideal condition, experimental products fail. PN Ghazi was deployed in war, totally tested, whereas LCA is still in development. Delay means not worthy of deploying. Its not about failure in mid operation of LCA in war.

Sir, you are now dodging the real question, sinking of PN Ghazi and the reason ? Did it sink because LCA was a failure or Indian naval officer retreated ?

You are bringing wrong examples to avoid my simple question, Where is the official PN report of sinking of Ghazi. Are you sure it was an accident due to faulty mine or incompetency of sailors ?

Stick to topic. PN Ghazi, explain why did it sank ? Incompetency or gross mistake by the sailors of PN Ghazi.

But I know, you will again dodge it, so I don't expect any valid point from your side. Keep on bringing LCA, Arjun, Timbaktu whatever to avoid this simple question.I know you are incapable of answering it and trying to take the discussion over different issue. So better not reply rather than proving your Incompetence too.

 

[shuntmaster]

Oh my god aunty ji transformed completely into pakistani.... thank god ...we don't want traitor in our soil...... she is funny...

Auntiji aka ajtr seems to be same as Jana

 

[RajputWarrior]

Like 2002 for example.......in case you are in denial.....let me set your tail on fire.

Casualties

The standoff inflicted heavy casualties. It took India months to mobilize and lost 789 men[22] to 1874 men[23] in the standoff. Around 100 soldiers were killed in the initial phase of laying mines, another 250 were injured. The remaining casualties were a result of artillery duels with Pakistan and vehicle accidents. The Pakistani losses were estimated to be about 34 casualties and 10 injuries.
Cost of standoff

The Indian cost for the buildup was 21,600 crore (US$3.93 billion) being much greater than that of Pakistani $1.4 billion.[24]

Inferiority complex much? 1971 war too much for you guys to handle? Deal with it. You lost half your country and ended up surrendering 97,000+ of your cowards

 

[manojb]

Like 2002 for example.......in case you are in denial.....let me set your tail on fire.

Casualties

The standoff inflicted heavy casualties. It took India months to mobilize and lost 789 men[22] to 1874 men[23] in the standoff. Around 100 soldiers were killed in the initial phase of laying mines, another 250 were injured. The remaining casualties were a result of artillery duels with Pakistan and vehicle accidents. The Pakistani losses were estimated to be about 34 casualties and 10 injuries.
Cost of standoff

The Indian cost for the buildup was 21,600 crore (US$3.93 billion) being much greater than that of Pakistani $1.4 billion.[24]

[IMG SNIP SNIP [/IMG]

If you are sleeping or in denial mode topic being discussed here is 1971 .. you are diverting for your own comfort.. its ok,
Here one of video to set your tail of fire

 

[jaunty]

The kafir Rajput killed the Ghaji..end of story.

 

[KRAIT]

Auntiji aka ajtr seems to be same as Jana

Nope. Jana takes one side and stick with it and don't seek attention. She is quite good in debate and discussion even if she don't like Indians in general.

 

[Thorough Pro]

The dread of the Ghazi seems somehow to have persisted in the Indian mind in the six years between the two wars. As the danger of another Indo-Pakistan conflict loomed large on the horizon the Indians moved their aircraft carrier, the Vikrant, not only out of Bombay but even out of Cochin, and from Cochin in October 1971 all the way to their eastern seaboard, and finally, not content even with the security of their massive naval base at Vishakapatnam, they hid it away in the backwaters of the Andamans.

Such frequent mental mastrubation have resulted in melted brains among the ....

That would be Rape of IN by PN not masturbation, which is what you guys are doing having grandeure delusions of blue ocean navy, which was again raped by a 5 foot Kasab for three days and nights non-stop.

The Ghazi became a Shahid drowned in bay of bengal in 1971 war while INS Vikrant enforced a succesful naval blocked of East pakistan.

Girtay Hain Shahsawar Hee Maidan-eJang Main
Wo Tuful Kia Giray Jo Ghutnoun Kay Bal Chaly

or wo IN Kia Laray Jo Andaman Mein Chupay
Khawab Dekhay Baray Par Kasab Kay Hathoon Chuday

 

[madooxno9]

Intelligence and deception
According to Indian Vice Admiral Mihir K. Roy, who was Director of Intelligence during this period, Ghazi's existence was revealed when signal addressed to naval authorities in Chittagong was intercepted, requesting information on a lubrication oil only used by submarines and minesweepers.
Management from the Indian Navy began to realize that the Pakistanis would inevitably be forced to send in the Bay of Bengal their submarine Ghazi as the sole ship which could operate in these waters. At that time, Vice Admiral N. Krishnan was the Flag officer Commander-in-Chief of the Indian Navy's eastern Naval Command. From his point of view, it was pretty clear that Pakistan would have deployed the Ghazi in the Bay of Bengal and a part of its plan was an attempt to sink the Indian aircraft carrier Vikrant. Fearing a possible attack primarily against its own aircraft carrier deployed in the region, Indian commanders had taken early action, in the period preceding the outbreak of hostilities, to slip Vikrant aircraft carrier groups at a secret anchorage in the Andaman Islands, designated as "X-Ray". On 13 November, Vikrant with escort ships went from Madras to this point. At the same time concerted action was taken to disseminate information designed to mislead the enemy about the true location of the aircraft carrier, and to foster confidence that the carrier was stationed at Visakhapatnam.
Contracts were placed for delivery in Visakhapatnam of large quantities of food, especially meat and fresh vegetables, allegedly destined for the Eastern Fleet ships. A private telegram was allegedly sent from Vishakhapatnam from one of the sailors of the aircraft carrier, inquiring about the health of his ailing mother. All these activities were apparently successful in deceiving the enemy. 25 November, the Pakistani command sent communication to the Ghazi saying that "intelligence indicates the finding of an aircraft carrier in port".

 

[Thorough Pro]

Mental Masturbation... Few things must be taken into consideration..

No shitting on the streets and no masturbation on th eforum, read the referenced book, it was not written by any Pakistani. You can keep blabbering all you want, what matters is what Vice Admiral Mihir Roy, a former Commander of the Vikrant and Commander-in-Chief of India's Eastern Naval Command, in his 1995 book War in the Indian Ocean, writes, "But the Bombayites failed to understand the lack of success by the Indian fleet especially with sirens wailing, Jamnagar attacked and Dwarka shelled with the Indian fleet still preparing to sail was an affront to the sailors in white who could not understand what was holding the fleet back". As Vice Admiral N Kirshnan is supposed to have said: "One of our frigates, Talwar, was at Okha. It is unfortunate that she could not sail forth and seek battle. Even if there was a mandate against the Navy participating in the war, no government would blame a warship going into action, if attacked. An affront to our national honor is no joke and we cannot laugh it away by saying 'All the Pakistanis did was to kill a cow'. Let us at least create a memorial to the 'unknown cow' who died with her hooves on in a battle against the Pakistan Navy".

13. When Pakistan opened western front the role was changed and Indian Navy went offensive, The Destruction of Gazi (The Kaffir Killer) happen then.

May be indian fan boys did that in their dreams while the reality as stated by Vice Admiral Mihir Roy, former Commander of the Vikrant and Commander-in-Chief of India's Eastern Naval Command, is totally different.

 

[ares]

how can any encounter take place when PNS Ghazi bottled up indian navy in the ports itself.IN was afraid to come out in open seas for duel in 1965.

That is but a lame excuse, entire Pakistani Navy being bottled up in Karachi harbor did not prevent Indian Navy from blowing up Karachi during operation python.

Further to that didn't Pakistan Navy claim, It had managed to sink INS Bhramaputra in 65 war, before being utterly embarrassed when the ship was paraded in full colors(shortly after the war).

 

[Azazel]

That would be Rape of IN by PN not masturbation, which is what you guys are doing having grandeure delusions of blue ocean navy, which was again raped by a 5 foot Kasab for three days and nights non-stop.

Guess what,Pakistanis are very proud about their terrorists and their ability to Rape.
Kid,bit of history lesson will tell you what Bengalis did to you when you tried this on them in 71.
Don't forget it was our navy's planes that was blown up by Kasab's friends.

 

[MilSpec]

the Pakistani submarine was destroyed in explosion of depth-charges dropped by destroyer INS Rajput,[/B] which the attacking Pakistani vessel had mistaken for aircraft carrier INS Vikrant and was pursuing it.

PNS Ghasi mistaking a 19,500 tons aircraft carrier to a 2,411 tons R class destroyer..... PN zindabad